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PS3 Media Sharing (Or how I learned that ripping DVDs is an utter pain)

Darth NathanDarth Nathan Registered User regular
Hey guys, bit of a conundrum here. New PS3 owner, bought the thing because it has LittleBigPlanet, but also because it can function as a media center. Only problem being, I just realised I have never ripped a DVD before and have no clue how to get it to play on a PS3.

After trying a few things, I managed to rip a DVD to my hard drive on the PC, but seeing as I'm using WMP11 for sharing, it won't put .VOB files in the library.

Basically all I want to do is get a bunch of DVDs, rip them to my hard drive, then stream them to the PS3 for playback. Importantly, most of the DVDs are TV box sets, so they have to be individual video files for each episode, unless there's a way to rip/stream a DVD wholesale, menus and all. Also seeing as I'm doing it via a wireless G network, the program has to have the ability to lower the bitrate of the movies slightly so I can avoid lag when the network gets heavily congested.

As a bonus, I'd also like to be able to play the DVDs on my iPod. For that I'll just create a second copy of the movie in iPod screen res. But the important part is getting the DVDs to a format that I can downsize first of all.

Before you ask, I've spent a good 3 days on Google, and I'm just sick of it, so hopefully someone here can lend a hand.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ripping DVDs is invariably a long and aggravating process. How did you rip it? Did you use a DVD ripping program?

    In order to share it, you are going to need a good media encoder. Wikihow has some suggestions.

    Unfortunately, I can't help you beyond that, because my attempts to move my movies onto my computer ultimately ended in failure. All I can say is, after trying to do this, I can understand why people would resort to less legitimate means.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You need two things: a ripping program and a DVD Decoder.

    I use Handbrake and DVD43.

    DVD43 will negotiate with the DVD to allow it to be read, then you can use handbrake for the ripping. Handbrake even has a bunch of presets for different devices.

    Basic How To Steps:
    1. After DVD43 is showing as a green smiley in your Taskbar, open handbrake and select the source button, and your DVD Drive. It will take a minute figuring things out.
    2. The Title Selection Box will default to the longest title (for movies, this is best, for TV shows, it might select a random one).
    3. After selecting your title, select Browse in the Destination Section. I use AVI as my filetype.
    4. In Output settings, select AVI (something else if you want)
    5. In the picture settings tab, accept the defaults, switch to the Video Tab.
    6. In the Video Tab, I use H264 as my video codec, you might want something different.
    7. Still in the video tab, select your Bitrate. For live action video, I use 1000, for animation, something closer to 700. You can increase this number higher for higher quality, but remember, larger bitrates mean larger files!
    8. Last thing in the video tab, select 2-pass encoding. This will increase your quality without increasing your file size, but will take twice as long to do.
    9. In the Audio and Subtitles tab, I use Audio Codec MP3 at a bitrate of 192, again feel free to play around here.

    Now your ready to start encoding. If there is only one video track you want, like a movie, just click encode. If it's a TV show and you want to rip 4 episodes off of one DVD, select Add to Queue. This will open up a new window showing your encode queue. Go back to the main window, selecting each title for each episode in turn, update the Destination Box for the new file, and add to queue. When you're all done, go to Encode Queue, verify that all the titles are different and they are mapped to the right files, then click the Encode button.

    Walk away, it will take a long time. I recommend setting a DVD up before you go to work and another one before you go to bed.

    For being iPod friendly, you'll want to rip it with h264, AAC, and not let your video bitrate go over 1500. I believe you also want your filetype to be m4v. There are also size concerns for the aspect ratio: (assuming iPod Classic)
    For 1.33:1: 320 x 240
    For 1.78:1: 368 x 208
    For 2.35:1: 384 x 160

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Now, for doing the actual streaming, you'll need a media server. I personally use Tversity. If you are running XP, it should be a mostly painless install and should work with almost no configuation.

    If your running vista, you will need to Disable User Account Control before even installing it, make exceptions in the firewall for it, and make sure your network is marked as private with Media Sharing Enabled.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Links for all this stuff:
    Handbrake
    DVD43
    Tversity

    Note to Mods: I assume it's okay to link this stuff, as it allows for the legitimate practice of ripping media you own to your computer. If this isn't okay, please feel free to delete this post.

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  • shadydentistshadydentist Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You don't need tversity to stream. Windows Media player can automatically stream anything in its library, so once you get it into a format it can recognize, you're good.

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  • Gilbert0Gilbert0 North of SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Not to be a jerk or anything but why not just put in the physical disk IN the PS3? Especially since we're talking HOURS per DVD to do it.

    Then all you'd have to do is rip them to be compatible with yout iPod.

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  • The Reverend Dr GalactusThe Reverend Dr Galactus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilbert0 wrote: »
    Not to be a jerk or anything but why not just put in the physical disk IN the PS3? Especially since we're talking HOURS per DVD to do it.

    Then all you'd have to do is rip them to be compatible with yout iPod.

    My guess is it's just a different usage pattern from how you use movies. You probably watch movies like I do -- small collection, lots of renting, generally watch only once. I have no use for a media server personally, but I think the OP is a large-collection, watch-many-times kind of movie watcher, the type for whom this kind of setup is great.

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  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilbert0 wrote: »
    Not to be a jerk or anything but why not just put in the physical disk IN the PS3? Especially since we're talking HOURS per DVD to do it.

    Then all you'd have to do is rip them to be compatible with yout iPod.

    My guess is it's just a different usage pattern from how you use movies. You probably watch movies like I do -- small collection, lots of renting, generally watch only once. I have no use for a media server personally, but I think the OP is a large-collection, watch-many-times kind of movie watcher, the type for whom this kind of setup is great.

    If you are taking hours to make a mp4 from dvd then you have an extremely bad setup.
    I can rip high defs in under three hours regular in about 40 minutes.

    If you have over 500 movies, it's a brilliant idea to rip them. You have them on demand, you don't have to store/display the movies (good shelves get costy and take up tons of room around 1000 dvds) and you can have one library shared on numerous tvs.

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  • Darth NathanDarth Nathan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Wow, thanks for the replies guys, I look away for one night and all this gets posted.

    DVG, Handbrake is officially the best thing EVER. Thanks so much for that, literally all I needed was that program, as all it needs is the VIDEO_TS folder as input, and as I'm using DVDDecrypter for ripping, that works nicely.

    Also while there are other streaming options, I've found WMP to be the most hassle-free solution. TVersity I tried, but it ended up having all these odd quirks (like all my songs having the same album art for some unfathomable reason).

    Also people here guessed right, I have a LOT of DVDs, so I want a way to be able to easily watch them on demand, and put the actual disks in storage under the stairs or something, cause the collection itself is much too big to be rifling through every time I want to watch something.

    Anyway, thanks for everything, am going to watch stuff now :p.

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  • DVGDVG No. 1 Honor Student Nether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilbert0 wrote: »
    Not to be a jerk or anything but why not just put in the physical disk IN the PS3? Especially since we're talking HOURS per DVD to do it.

    Then all you'd have to do is rip them to be compatible with yout iPod.

    My guess is it's just a different usage pattern from how you use movies. You probably watch movies like I do -- small collection, lots of renting, generally watch only once. I have no use for a media server personally, but I think the OP is a large-collection, watch-many-times kind of movie watcher, the type for whom this kind of setup is great.

    This is more or less it. It's more TV Shows on DVD that are appealing to have ripped for streaming. Being able to call up any episode of HIMYM when company over is great.

    Also consider that some DVDs have pretty tedious menu systems to get to the content. In a lot of the Buffy seasons, for instance, there is no "Play All" Feature, and you have to navigate long, tedious animated 3D menu systems to get to the play options for each individual episode. Just being able to call up the episode you want to fucking watch is much preferable.

    The time investment for ripping a DVD is more or less moot. The computer is doing it when I'm away from the house or I'm asleep.

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  • madalynnmadalynn Registered User new member
    edited January 2009
    Question one:
    What formats does the SanDisk Sansa support?
    Answer:
    Audio Formats: MP3, WAV, WMA
    Video Formats: AVI, MPEG4, WMV, QuickTime, MPEG2, ASF
    Photo formats: BMP, JPEG, TIFF, GIF

    Question Two:
    Where can I download online videos and put them on my Sansa?
    How can I put my DVD movies on my Sandisk Sansa?
    Answer:
    Recently my friend recommend me a best way, now I will share with you.

    Part One: Download and put online videos on your Sansa

    Things You will need: Aiseesoft YouTube Converter Mate.

    Function Description: Aiseesoft YouTube Converter Mate contains many urls of online video download sites for you, which is not only an online YouTube Video Downloader but also a Total Video Converter, which can help you download online videos and convert them to your Sansa, PSP, iPod, iPhone (3G), iPhone, Zune, Zune 2, Blackberry, Nokia, Creative Zen, Mobile Phone, etc.

    Quick Start:

    1. Download Video

    Step 1. Install and run Aiseesoft YouTube Converter Mate.

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    Step 2. Click “Downloader” and you will see

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    Step 3. Click “Add Task” and there will be a pop-up window show up

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    Copy the url of the YouTube video you want to download and paste it on the “Url”
    a. You can rename the file
    b. You can choose the “Save Path”/“Finished Path”
    c. Add your own “Description”

    Step 4. Click “OK” and few second later you will find the video in the folder that you choose in “Save Path”.

    2. Convert Video

    Step 1. Load Video
    You can load your video by clicking “Add File” button or clicking “File” button, you can choose “add file” on a drop-down list.

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    Step 2. Output format and Settings
    From the “Profile” drop-down list you can find one format that meets your requirement.

    To have your own video settings you can click “settings” button.

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    After doing the steps above, you can click “start” button to start conversion.

    3. Edit Video

    1. Trim any segment
    There are 3 ways that you can trim your video.
    a. You can drag the button to set the start and end time
    b. You can preview the video first and when you want to start trim click the left one of the pair buttons when you want to end click the right one.
    c. You can set the exact start and end time on the right side of the pop-up window.

    2. Crop any play region
    There are 3 ways that you can crop your video.
    a. We provide 7 modes on our “Crop Mode”.
    b. You can set your own mode on the right side of the pop-up window.
    c. You can drag frame to set your own crop mode.

    3. Snapshot and merge into one file
    If you like the current image of the video you can use the “Snapshot” option. Just click the “Snapshot” button the image will be saved and you can click the “Open” button next to “Snapshot” button to open your picture, then put it in your Sansa as background.
    If you want to make several files output as one you can choose “Merge into one file”.

    Tips: If you just wonld like to download the online videos, you can use Aiseesoft FREE YouTube Downloader.

    Part Two: Put your DVD collections on your Sansa

    Here i recommendAiseesoft DVD Ripper that could easily rip DVD to MP4, H.264, AVI, MP3, WMV, WMA, FLV, MKV, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, 3GP, 3GPP, VOB, DivX, Mov, RM, RMVB, M4A, AAC, WAV, etc. with super fast DVD ripping speed and excellent image and sound quality.

    Step 1: Install and run Aiseesoft DVD Ripper

    Step 2: Import DVD.
    Place the DVD into your DVD drive and click the “Load DVD” button to load DVD.

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    Tips: This DVD Ripper can load three DVD source, you can load your DVD from DVD drive, DVD folder in your PC and also IFO file.

    Step 3: Output Video Settings
    Select the output video and audio format you want from the “Profile” drop-down list for your Sansa player.

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    Tips:

    1: You can also select Audio Track and Subtitle from their respectively drop-down list.
    2: You can click the “Settings” button to set your video parameters.

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    In the Video Settings, you can select Encoder, Frame Rate, Resolution and Bitrate for your movie
    In the Audio Settings, you can select Encoder, Channels, Bitrate and Sample Rate for your movie.
    when you choose the specific settings, the lower window will show the "help" to explain the meanings of each setting.

    Step 4: Start conversion
    Click the “Start” button to start your conversion and in a short while it will be finished.

    Step 5: Click “Open” button to open your output destination file.

    Finally, please connect the Sansa Player to your computer by USB cable, then put your converted videos, music or captured pictures to your Sansa either by MTP or UMS transfer protocols .

    Now enjoy your digital life with Sansa freely and easily!

    More Experience
    1. MTP gives you the option to automatically sync your media with Windows Media Player 10 and other DRM services.
    2. UMS (SanDisk calls it MSC, or Mass Storage Controller) allows you to drag and drop your music onto the player, keeping the folders organized how you want.
    The player will allow the use of both methods simultaneously, so all of your music will show up on the player no matter how you put it on. However, when the device is plugged in as an MTP device you will not be able to see the tracks you loaded via UMS and vice versa.
    3. Photos must be transferred to the player via Sansa Media Converter, which converts and downsizes the photos to fit the screen.

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