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Hit & Run -> Absurd tow charge (Update)

ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I was at a party drinking and spent the night to avoid D/D. I woke up and got my car, only to find the mirror smashed off, the bumper hanging off and the front rim bent out of shape with a flat tire (thats what I get for not D/Ding, har har har, just kidding) . I called the cops before I touched anything to get a report for the insurance, and they called a tow for me. The tow brought my car to their lot and told me they'd tow it to the shop I'd mentioned I wanted it fixed at.

The problem: turns out I didnt have insurance (don't ask) and I'm gonna have to pay for tow/repairs myself. They're charging 265$ for the tow, which was only maybe half a dozen blocks, calling it a flat rate for accidents. It's basically a bullshit rate to charge the insurance companies so they can make as much money as they can, but in this case it's a pretty much having me bend over sideways. Is there anything I can feasibly do to avoid paying this absurd sum? I've got no problem paying a reasonable price since they did tow it after all, but this is a bit much.

Edit: downtown Montreal, Quebec.


Update 1: Paid about 500$ total for towing alone

Update2:
ApexMirage wrote: »
The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension. I dont understand how that could have happened when there's essentially zero structural damage to the panel above the wheel itself.

Estimate: 3k

Looks like I'll be eating macaroni for a while.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Not from Canada but in my experience there is no way to reduce those charges. Be glad it was only that much, most of the time it's happened to me it cost $400 or more.

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  • Peeps ChickenPeeps Chicken Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So did you ask them what the tow charge would be before they towed it? Or did you assume your insurance would cover it (and thus not care) and only decide to care when you got stuck with the bill?

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  • McClyMcCly Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Cost me 75 bucks to tow my car and store it a night. I'm in South Carolina. At least it wasn't a thousand bucks.

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Actually now that I think of it, you may want to check that there isn't an impound fee being added on.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I didn't care because I figured insurance would cover it, and yes there will be an extra impound fee.

    *sigh*
    those fuckers.

    I've never heard of a regular tow costing more than 100$ around here, which is why I'm so aggravated.

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I feel you. Sometimes these "shitty position" businesses know when they've got you against the ropes. I call them "shitty position" businesses because anyone who calls them is in a shitty position and generally has no other option. So they make you assume the position.

    A locksmith once told my friend over the phone that it'd cost 50 bucks to pop the lock on his car door when he got locked out, which seemed reasonable. He got there, popped the lock in about 10 seconds, and stuffed a bill in his hands for 300 bucks without even mentioning the markup he was going to give from his initial estimate.

    Basically though, I don't think you have many options since it's already happened. =(

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Live and learn I guess. I'll be damned if I dont give them an earful either way.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    I called the cops before I touched anything to get a report for the insurance, and they called a tow for me. The tow brought my car to their lot and told me they'd tow it to the shop I'd mentioned I wanted it fixed at.

    "Well there's your problem!"

    If you mean the cops called the tow company, that's always bad news. Cities always choose the most shaddy, crappy companies to do their dirty work. Always call for your own service. And I'd ask for an "adjusted bill" this time anyway - might as well.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Sorry, but unless you have a lawyer friend willing to scour local ordinance for free, you’re stuck paying it. Never let someone else call you a tow!

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    They have my car.

    Repeat this outloud.

    They have my car.

    Each day you let it sit in their lot is more money they're going to get. Just do it.

    It cost me something like $100 or so to get my car towed ONE BLOCK and picked up the same afternoon.

    Towing companies suck.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I just "got it back" earlier today, and it cost me 435$. (265 + 30/day + tax) *plus* the 60 I paid to have it towed to the shop. (by a friend of a friend that was not available yesterday)

    The ironic beauty of it is that it was towed Saturday morning, and I was essentially told that I could not get it back until I talked to the boss for the bill, who was not in until monday. Fuckers.

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ultimately it comes down to "I didnt have insurance". I'm not entirely sure how that could come as a surprise but without insurance you're pretty much stuck with whatever's thrown at you. (a lot of insurance companies cover towing, and the fees involved., though even with them i have to use their tow company (namely for this reason)) and unless the place you were at had outdoor cameras i doubt you'll get compensation for the damages on the car. (though I'd check, because you might be able to pull the plate numbers)

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    No cameras, and no insurance makes me screwed to the max. I saw red fluid under the car as they towed it, which is transmission fluid afaik. This is gonna cost me big time.

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  • YourFatAuntSusanYourFatAuntSusan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Yeah, the insurance thing has me baffled considering it's illegal to have a registered motor vehicle in Canada without it.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ^That would be why he's boned, they expect him to have insurance. Essentially (i would guess), he's getting charged the commercial rate, rather than the consumer rate. The markup between those two things is huge.

    Dunno how to bargain that without copping to the heftier crime of driving without insurance though. It may not matter in the end, most companies have confidentiality clauses that prevent them from spreading knowledge like that to the cops, but I dont know about the towing industry.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    I just "got it back" earlier today, and it cost me 435$. (265 + 30/day + tax) *plus* the 60 I paid to have it towed to the shop. (by a friend of a friend that was not available yesterday)

    The ironic beauty of it is that it was towed Saturday morning, and I was essentially told that I could not get it back until I talked to the boss for the bill, who was not in until monday. Fuckers.

    Not sure about the great north, but down here in civilization most tow shops are 24/7 if you're getting a car out.

    That said, I'd be bullshit over the "sorry you can't get YOUR OWN VEHICLE till Monday."

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Iceman: I'm pretty sure it would fall under "who gives a shit" if the insurance is paying for it, it's just another way for the tow company to siphon more money out of them. They even tried to charge me 45$ for debris, which I managed to talk my way out of.


    Update: The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension. I dont understand how that could have happened when there's essentially zero structural damage to the panel above the wheel itself.

    Estimate: 3k

    Looks like I'll be eating macaroni for a while.

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  • Iceman.USAFIceman.USAF Major East CoastRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    mcdermott wrote: »
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    I just "got it back" earlier today, and it cost me 435$. (265 + 30/day + tax) *plus* the 60 I paid to have it towed to the shop. (by a friend of a friend that was not available yesterday)

    The ironic beauty of it is that it was towed Saturday morning, and I was essentially told that I could not get it back until I talked to the boss for the bill, who was not in until monday. Fuckers.

    Not sure about the great north, but down here in civilization most tow shops are 24/7 if you're getting a car out.

    That said, I'd be bullshit over the "sorry you can't get YOUR OWN VEHICLE till Monday."

    I know the tow shop I dealt with charged a "off hours" rate if you wanted your car out outside of regular business hours.

    This rate was roughly equivalent to two days of impound charges.

    So if you got towed on a Saturday or Friday night, you were paying the same amount no matter what.


    Wow that sucks. My car got towed from a bar once, so I went to pick it up around 4 or 5 am once my buddy and I sobered up. (not that I was going to drive it home from the bar but dammit...) Never mentioned any extra charge but maybe it was in there.

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  • supabeastsupabeast Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    Update: The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension. I dont understand how that could have happened when there's essentially zero structural damage to the panel above the wheel itself.

    Easy: the wheel took the hit. I once went into a curb sideways so fast that I cracked the wheel, demolished the bearings inside it, split the drive axle in half, and destroyed enough other shit that it took hours of cutting away bent metal just to figure out what was really broken. But the body panels were just fine.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    supabeast wrote: »
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    Update: The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension. I dont understand how that could have happened when there's essentially zero structural damage to the panel above the wheel itself.

    Easy: the wheel took the hit. I once went into a curb sideways so fast that I cracked the wheel, demolished the bearings inside it, split the drive axle in half, and destroyed enough other shit that it took hours of cutting away bent metal just to figure out what was really broken. But the body panels were just fine.

    I can understand that, but what part of another car can possibly pertrude enough to hit the wheel and not the panel?

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  • McClyMcCly Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    Iceman: I'm pretty sure it would fall under "who gives a shit" if the insurance is paying for it, it's just another way for the tow company to siphon more money out of them. They even tried to charge me 45$ for debris, which I managed to talk my way out of.


    Update: The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension. I dont understand how that could have happened when there's essentially zero structural damage to the panel above the wheel itself.

    Estimate: 3k

    Looks like I'll be eating macaroni for a while.

    mix some tuna fish into it every now and then. it's delicious.

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ramen is pretty cheap too. I almost live on that stuff as a student.

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  • McClyMcCly Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Yakisoba and taquitos are where it's at.

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  • GirlPantsGirlPants Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    goddamn, I believe at 3k repairs I would just total the car and buy a new one.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 Really, stupid? Brockton__BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    GirlPants wrote: »
    goddamn, I believe at 3k repairs I would just total the car and buy a new one.

    Depends on the car, of course. If it's worth less than, I'd say 6k, junk it and buy something else. It'll be a better investment.

    But I wanna know what happened to his insurance.

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  • KakodaimonosKakodaimonos Code fondler Helping the 1% get richerRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Is that a quote for a complete transmission replacement? Or are they saying they can repair the crack? If it's the latter, find another repair place. It's really, really hard to repair a crack in an aluminum transmission case. And suspension repairs usually mean that your car never quite handles the same.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I had the transmission replaced less then a year ago and it cost 1200$ with labor, so the estimate is to get the car road worthy again. They didnt mention a replacement or a fix, and there was obviously more than that broken. I'd assume the whole wheel assembly and the brake need work too.

    I hadn't considered scrapping it, but it's not sounding like a bad idea. I paid 6300ish almost two years ago for it, and considering the 1200 tranny/500 tow I don't think its worth another 3k. It's sounding like the best course of action but it's making me really sad, because I'd grown quite fond of my car. :(
    What bothers me even more is that it's an 03 with only 79000 on it

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Why did you even get it towed if the damage was purely cosmetic? I would've just Duct Tape > Drive home

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  • I'd Fuck Chuck Lidell UpI'd Fuck Chuck Lidell Up Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    yeah "The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension."

    not really something you want to drive home

    I'm with everyone that says just get a new car

    this time though you miiiight want to get it insured

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    I had the transmission replaced less then a year ago and it cost 1200$ with labor, so the estimate is to get the car road worthy again. They didnt mention a replacement or a fix, and there was obviously more than that broken. I'd assume the whole wheel assembly and the brake need work too.

    I hadn't considered scrapping it, but it's not sounding like a bad idea. I paid 6300ish almost two years ago for it, and considering the 1200 tranny/500 tow I don't think its worth another 3k. It's sounding like the best course of action but it's making me really sad, because I'd grown quite fond of my car. :(
    What bothers me even more is that it's an 03 with only 79000 on it


    When my sister totaled her car (not hard since it was an old POS) she signed it over to the tow company to cover the tow charges and such. You'll get crap for scrapping now and you'll likely have to pay to tow it to the scrappers.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You'll get crap for scrapping now and you'll likely have to pay to tow it to the scrappers.

    he definitely won't have to pay... scrap yards are actively looking for late model cars with good body panels, and will take it off your hands and even give you beer money :D

    that said, sorry OP! shit happens

    my cousin once woke up to a huge crash sound, and found that a drunk driver had essentially *driven* into the back her parked jeep cherokee as if it was a garage

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    yeah "The impact to the wheel was so severe that it cracked my transmission and bent the suspension."

    not really something you want to drive home

    I'm with everyone that says just get a new car

    this time though you miiiight want to get it insured

    specifically make sure your insurance covers collateral (which i think a hit and run while your car is parked falls under, correct me if im wrong)

    basic car insurance required by most states is only medical coverage and uninsured driver coverage. thats why geico can save you hundreds of dollars... by not giving you Tort, collision and collateral. unless your car is worth nothing.

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