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Battlestar Galactica: Amicans Will Defeat the Commists! *SPOILERS*
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Battlestar Galactica is a show that centers around a doctor that puts up with whiny bitches every day. In space.
Talk about how Cylons are Nazis and etc in here.
REGARDING SPOILERS:
We're following the same spoilers rule from the last thread. No need to bother with tags for anything that's actually aired. If you have inside info or something, spoiler it. Yes, it sucks if you don't see the show the same time as everyone else but with the nature of the show, pretty much everything's a spoiler.
AIR TIMES: Friday nights in America and Wednesdays in the UK. Hulu has it at midnight for now but after the fifth episode will have it eight days after the initial airing. Because Hulu is angry at you.
NEWS JUST IN:
19/08/08 - A two-hour television movie will air sometime after the series finale. It will be based
on the perspectives of two cylon agents before the attack on the 12 colonies and hence the
events will take place before the mini-series from 2003.
08/12/08 - Caprica is confirmed to be receiving a full season of 20 episodes ("including" the two
hour pilot - not sure if that means 20+2 or 18+2) to be filmed in '09 for a premiere of early '10.
DATES:
Movie: Summer 2009
Caprica: Early 2010
Talk about how Cylons are Nazis and etc in here.
REGARDING SPOILERS:
We're following the same spoilers rule from the last thread. No need to bother with tags for anything that's actually aired. If you have inside info or something, spoiler it. Yes, it sucks if you don't see the show the same time as everyone else but with the nature of the show, pretty much everything's a spoiler.
AIR TIMES: Friday nights in America and Wednesdays in the UK. Hulu has it at midnight for now but after the fifth episode will have it eight days after the initial airing. Because Hulu is angry at you.
NEWS JUST IN:
19/08/08 - A two-hour television movie will air sometime after the series finale. It will be based
on the perspectives of two cylon agents before the attack on the 12 colonies and hence the
events will take place before the mini-series from 2003.
08/12/08 - Caprica is confirmed to be receiving a full season of 20 episodes ("including" the two
hour pilot - not sure if that means 20+2 or 18+2) to be filmed in '09 for a premiere of early '10.
DATES:
Movie: Summer 2009
Caprica: Early 2010
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I'd hate for someone to just waltz in here unprepared and discover that Adama is the final cylon, Starbuck was the one who nuked earth, and Gaeta killed the president!
Not to mention baltarbots.
Because BSG is, in fact, a medical drama show. Not a lot of people seem to get that.
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What makes you think he isn't?
It was totally original and refreshing and I'm pretty sure it's a formula that could sustain at least 4 seasons without getting even slightly boring.
Wait for it guys.
It's called Cottage.
You're going to have to give me a very rigorous description of why, exactly, they deserve to know. There is absolutely no utility to be gained from knowing except a satisfaction of morbid curiosity. It's the same bullshit people have about reading up on actress's sex lives or whatever, and it's disgusting.
Will it feature Baltarbots?
EVERYTHING will feature baltarbots.
The Final Five have the potential to play an important role in any possible solution to their problems. As such they at least need to know who they are if they are to be able to act in an informed manner.
After reading the last few pages I finally get you. There isn't always a wrong or a right, things change, perceptions change. Now I intend to argue why Hitler was justified in his war against the Allies, fuck your absolute moral "just" war bullshit.
Following the first world war the Treaty of Versailles seriously crippled the German economy and cut off pieces of land that had been part of Germany, even parts such as the Polish Corridor where a majority of Germans lived but this land was given to the Poles. This, naturally, caused a huge amount of resentment. Imagine having a few of the Southern US states given to Mexico and Alaska given to Canada. Americans would not be pleased.
Hitler was one of the very angry people, thinking that this new "democracy" was bullshit as all they had done was cowardly submit and let the Allies stop all over Germany. Germany was also forced to take FULL 100% ABSOLUTE responsibility for the war when, if you've studied any of the causes of WW1 you will know that all nations involved were responsible. Germany doesn't even deserve to take the brunt of the responsibility. So this pissed off Germans even more.
So Hitler tried a coup d'etat against the democratic government in... 1924 if I recall correctly. It failed and when Hitler was spending some time in prison (btw, he was given a reduced sentence because many of the judges/officers etc involved in his trial were sympathetic to his cause thinking that the democratic Weimar Republic was a bunch of wusses without the best interests of Germany at heart) anyhow, he wrote Mein Kampf and realised he had to gain power through legal means. He took control of the Nazi party and eventually became dictator of Germany in 1934 (quite a lot of it was legal, with some intimidation and threats mixed in... lots of his speeches rallied support as well).
Anyhow, Hitler wished to reunite all German peoples (there's nothing wrong with this!) into one country again. He runs around invading places and so on.
MEANWHILE IN THE ALLIED CAMP: Everybody sits around twiddling their thumbs going "oh we shouldn't interfere or save the democracy or anything, Hitler is doing good for the country and we can't be bothered with another war now". And, surprisingly, Hitler did do good for Germany. He brought unemployment near to 0%, brought inflation down from the ridiculously high levels it was to a normal place and so on.
So Hitler invades other countries, has a grudge against Jews for some reason and wants to send them all to Madagascar (it was the actual plan at one point) but realises that since the Allies have mined the sea routes that could be used to transport the Jews to Madagascar it's not exactly feasible. So instead he figures The Final Solution is the only way to go (kill them instead). Which occurs.
Now except for the rather STRANGE grudge against Jews that he held and had them killed, on what grounds would you call the Allies' position "just"? The Allies didn't actually know for sure that the extermination of Jews was going on until they stumbled across one of the concentration camps, so that can't be used as a reason.
The Allies were fighting an enemy who wished to break the status quo and change the power balance of the world. They were not fighting an enemy who was inherently "evil", or "wrong" in what they were doing. I'll have you know that the Allies have done far worse such as slavery, taking possession of other countries without asking and so on.
CONCLUSION (tl;dr): WW2 was not just under any circumstances.
PS: sorry if I sounds angry or anything. Was just getting a bit pissy. I also skipped a lot of the historical detail cause I didn't feel like writing an essay right now.
edit: maybe it'd just be best to ignore the entire discussion thing and move on to more positive talk...
Weird huh. He's a great actor but he's a bit too old to have been cast for that unfortunately.
Dude, make a new thread if you want to do that rather than shit all over this one.
Mankind is fucked if it doesn't sort out it's issues with the cylons. The truce with the rebel cylons is pretty fucking essential for the fleet.
So the fact that the EXO, the Prez's aid the chief engineer and that sport star are cylons. But different are the best chance we have at uniting the factions.
So for that reason the public needs to know. I'ld say.
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It was a response to HamHamJ saying the Allies fought a just war and general morality debate thing that was going on as cause by the BSG. I was trying to show how one side is never the "good" side. If I knew the same amount of historical detail about some other dictator then I would have gone with him instead of Hitler but I'm afraid the only other dictators I know about are Stalin, Lenin and Mao. They were all batshit insane so kinda poor examples.
It's a long shot, but I did apologise for it, and you don't have to go shit all over me for it.
Though I would agree that they should tell the people. If anything, it would end the "are you a Cylon" fear and paranoia for good.
No but I wrote it all up for the last thread and when I wanted to post it the thread was locked. Being unwilling to waste my effort, however disastrous, I checked to see if I posted it in this one.
Moving along... I'm unsure about a couple of spellings, imdb says it's Laura Roslin and Helo but I keep on seeing people spell it Roslyn and Hilo. Which one's right? Also, frack or frak? The episode said "Frak Earth" but it could've been an idiot who can't spell who wrote it..
Roslin.
People make mistakes and typos all the time.
Frak. IIRC, it was "frack" in the original series, but in this one the writers decided to shorted it to a four-letter word to be more like "fuck".
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To not derail the thead I am going to confine my answer to this in a PM when I have some time... maybe tomorrow.
Just for the record.
Wasn't there a guy last thread defending his spelling of "Psylon"?
On the plus side he was an absolute tool, so we can safely ignore him forever.
I now wish the upcoming BSG spinoff was a "re-imagining" of Quincy, M.E..
I am sorry, so sorry.
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On the down side I am still right and will spell made up words however I wish.