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Adrift in an Ocean of Stars...

Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually...{They/Them}Registered User regular
edited September 2009 in Games and Technology
I'm honestly surprised there wasn't an SO4 thread beforehand.

And yes, it's better than SO3!
"AD 2064. Humanity made its third and most costly mistake. World War III. Weapons of mass destruction deployed with complete impunity, razed the land in the blink of an eye. People believed it's the end of the world. The planet Earth was dying. So humanity began to search for a new home in space."

"AD 2074 first contact. SD0001 first warp. SD0010 -- first official SRF mission. The first official SRF mission ventures forth into the great Star Ocean."

It is said that World War III ended in 2064, but the effects of the war remained. When humanity began to search for a new home in space, the USTA was established. In AD 2087, Professor Trillas Bachtein succeeded with his space warp experiments. This was the last day of the AD calendar and first day of the SD calendar. After the success of Professor Trillas Bachtein, the USTA began to secretly implement its SRF project. In SD 0010, the first official SRF mission begun.


Starring the cast of random dudes is Edge Maverick, who messes up the mental image of badassedness based on his name through his typical Japanese-inspired girliness. And there's his friend Reimi. For some reason they decide to get lost in space and hijinxs ensue.


Edit: Out now! Buy it, or you'll end up like Lymle here.

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Edit: A list of new stuff to expect in Star Ocean 4:

* Blindside (known as Sight In/Sight Out in Japan)- a system of dodging an enemy's attack at exactly the right moment to circle around them and land at least one critical from behind.

* The Calnus- for once, you're given a ship! It's said you have much more freedom in traveling around space. Let's hope you don't crash the ship too often into underdeveloped worlds like in SO3.

* Rush Mode- every time you deal or take damage, a meter fills up. When it's completely filled, you can execute a series of timed button presses to unleash a super-move like attack, and other party members will occasionally join in. Think the Overlimits of the Tales series.

* BEAT (Battle Exalted Action Type) System- grant bonuses. Various types grant various bonuses. See under Important Stuff.

* Roommates- aboard the Calnus, you can dictate which characters will share quarters. Yes, this means you can put the cat girl and the busty elf chick in the same room, though no promises of funny business ensuing. These unlock some Private Actions ( see below).

* Physical Special Attacks no longer consume HP! And I'm fairly certain you can no longer die if you lose all your MP.

* Rage- See below, under Private Actions.


Returning Stuff:

* Symbology (known as Heraldy on other planets)- the magic system of past SO games. Same old, same old.

* Item Creation- a different Welch, but she seems even more annoying than her previous incarnations.

* Private Actions- like before, characters can either like or hate Edge. Between this and the Roommate thing, a party member who is close to Edge will go into a "Rage" if he's close to being KO'd in battle.

* Battle Trophies return.

* Eyes that are way too big for their faces.


Playable characters (possible spoilers):
Edge- member of the SRF, wields a sword.
Reimi- Edge's friend, also in the SRF, wields a bow.
Faize- an Eldarian, wields a rapier and magic.
Bacchus-D79- a scientist turned android from Mophus, wields guns.
Lymle- the required little girl from Lemuris, wields a wand and magic.
Meracle- Lesser Fellpool (aka: catgirl) from Roak, wields claws.
Myuria (aka: Not Judith)- the required busty elf chick from Mophus, wields a staff and magic.
Arumat- leader of a special division on Eldar, wields a laser scythe.
Sarah- a Featherfolk from Roak, wields a spear and magic.

Reviews are up!

IGN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfXjoMRhy2s



Important Stuff:

Item Creation- After a short time in, you can go into a room in the Calnus and make items with Welch. In order to do so, you either need to find Recipes or create them yourself. You do so buy putting up to three characters in little brainstorming sessions. Based on what characters you use and how potent their creation skills (Edge's Smithery, Reimi's Cooking, etc.) are, you'll create different recipes. Then you go out and hunt down the items needed to make it.

BEATs- Battle Enhancement Attribute Types give your characters bonuses and some abilities. BEAT: S (Strike) boosts your Attack, Intelligence, and Hit, and teaches you abilities tied to Blindsides. BEAT: B (Burst) boosts your HP, Defense, and Guard, and teaches you abilities tied to the Rush Gauge. As you win battles, your rank in these increases, granting you better parameter boosts and new abilities. You can freely switch between them. BEAT: N (Neutral) gives you all the parameter boosts you gained from both S and B, but at the lack of any of the abilities.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SO 3 killed any hope I ever had for the series.

    I've played SO 2 so many times, and man was 3 ever disapointing. Especially with all the build up it had on various gaming sites.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I never played 1 or 2, so 3 might have been a bad place for me to have begun. But I have high hopes for 4 removing the bad taste 3 left.

    Man, screw that stupid Fury gauge.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I never played 1 or 2, so 3 might have been a bad place for me to have begun. But I have high hopes for 4 removing the bad taste 3 left.

    Man, screw that stupid Fury gauge.

    Buy PSP... Buy Star Ocean 2... And let there be much rejoicing!

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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    There have been some new pictures and gameplay videos released very recently

    I like video 3, mostly because it appeals to my love of ridiculously high combos.

    Slicer on
  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Why the fuck do people hate 3 so much? That game kicked so much ass. What is WRONG with you people?

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  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SO4 thread time!

    Fuck SO3. Stupid horrible game. Suicidal party AI, fucked up crafting system, shitty guage mechanic and SUPER ULTRA MEGA BEYOND HORRIBLE PLOT.

    So I heard rumors of SO4 on teh PC?

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  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I already have SO4 reserved so I cant wait. I want the game now. The graphics in it looks so goddamn sexy too.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SO2 is not a good game. It is in fact quite shitty if you play it today. There I said it. Semi-long rant ahead.
    The characters sucked, the dialogue was awful, and the battle system wasn't that great. People complained about being stuck on a backwater planet in 3 for a long time? Well in 2 you never fucking get off one. The only time it ever happens is at the end of planet 1 where you're on a spaceship for about 3 minutes. That was it. Then you go into a planet so advanced it relies on windmills. Wow game, thanks for sending to me the Netherlands of the future.

    I played SO2 after 3 and I prefer 3 in nearly every single way, shape, and form. While the plot twist was retarded beyond all reason and the minecart creatures can die in a fire, the battle system itself was actually fun. Anyone who actually died from MP loss also really sucked at the game because I got all the way up to the post-game sphere dungeon and never once died from it. It's actually there to help you because a lot of bosses have a criminally low amount of MP. So instead of whittling down 50,000 HP, just get rid of 20,000 MP.

    That aside, I'm actually really looking forward to this game. I already know that I should expect to be stuck in Amish country for the first half of the game but.... it's just so pretty. It's a pretty game. The battle system looks fun too.

    Edit: It should also be mentioned that the guy in charge of SO4 has expressed great interest at making erotic games. Just felt everyone should be aware of that fact you know? It's going to make the female characters in SO4 kind of... awkward.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Well, I don't necessarily hate SO3, it just wasn't for me. Never beat it thanks to the stupid AI and the fact that that dragon dungeon was confusing and all the enemies paralyzed you and then ate you.

    Also, a lack of a PSP tends to impede upon the playing of Second Departure.

    Edit: Oh, and I recall hearing that SO4 is three discs long. So yeah, Disc 1 is essentially guaranteed to abandon you in Amish country.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Looking into this.

    I liked SO3 better than SO2, but didn't really like either of them that much anyway.

    Schide on
  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    SO4 thread time!

    Fuck SO3. Stupid horrible game. Suicidal party AI, fucked up crafting system, shitty guage mechanic and SUPER ULTRA MEGA BEYOND HORRIBLE PLOT.

    So I heard rumors of SO4 on teh PC?

    I loved it when I fought monsters in areas that weren't completely open. My party members would get stuck on the walls. Yay!

    I hope SO4 fixes my biggest complaint about party management in SO3; if you wanted to give a command to a party member, you had to do it when they weren't doing anything. Sucked that you couldn't tell them to do it and they would do it as soon as they could.

    Slicer on
  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    SO2 is not a good game. It is in fact quite shitty if you play it today. There I said it. Semi-long rant ahead.
    The characters sucked, the dialogue was awful, and the battle system wasn't that great. People complained about being stuck on a backwater planet in 3 for a long time? Well in 2 you never fucking get off one. The only time it ever happens is at the end of planet 1 where you're on a spaceship for about 3 minutes. That was it. Then you go into a planet so advanced it relies on windmills. Wow game, thanks for sending to me the Netherlands of the future.

    I played SO2 after 3 and I prefer 3 in nearly every single way, shape, and form. While the plot twist was retarded beyond all reason and the minecart creatures can die in a fire, the battle system itself was actually fun. Anyone who actually died from MP loss also really sucked at the game because I got all the way up to the post-game sphere dungeon and never once died from it. It's actually there to help you because a lot of bosses have a criminally low amount of MP. So instead of whittling down 50,000 HP, just get rid of 20,000 MP.

    That aside, I'm actually really looking forward to this game. I already know that I should expect to be stuck in Amish country for the first half of the game but.... it's just so pretty. It's a pretty game. The battle system looks fun too.

    Ahhh Gilder. The voice of reason. Thank you my friend.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    Schide on
  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.


    Not really. If that is what you want just play Mass Effect.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    It's because they start you out in space and the covers always use space and such. The first few hours of SO3 were all "Oh man, we're on a spaceship resort! Oh shit, robots and lasers! This is awesome! Now we're going at the speed of light and I'm talking to 5 different races of people! This is sweet! I really like th- wait why the fuck am I on a green forest where wells are the most advanced thing created? I'll get back to space soon right? The next planet isn't some kind of Medieval planet where I get locked up in jail and escape through some kind of icy tunnel system right?"

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  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Yeah the story wasnt too...uhh....good. But hey! I loved that game. A lot.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Star Ocean is like the most mediocre roleplaying series in existence.

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  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    It's because they start you out in space and the covers always use space and such. The first few hours of SO3 were all "Oh man, we're on a spaceship resort! Oh shit, robots and lasers! This is awesome! Now we're going at the speed of light and I'm talking to 5 different races of people! This is sweet! I really like th- wait why the fuck am I on a green forest where wells are the most advanced thing created? I'll get back to space soon right? The next planet isn't some kind of Medieval planet where I get locked up in jail and escape through some kind of icy tunnel system right?"

    Exactly. They make a huge fucking deal about futuristic bullshit in the intro/packaging and then they bury you in the dark ages for 95% of the game.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Yeah, I was gonna say, it's probably because of all the cool technology at the very beginning, only for them to plop you on a backwater planet with a sword.

    At least Bacchus-D79 (who has, quite possibly, the most ridiculously awesome name) is a cyborg with a bunch of lasers.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being actually all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    It's because they start you out in space and the covers always use space and such. The first few hours of SO3 were all "Oh man, we're on a spaceship resort! Oh shit, robots and lasers! This is awesome! Now we're going at the speed of light and I'm talking to 5 different races of people! This is sweet! I really like th- wait why the fuck am I on a green forest where wells are the most advanced thing created? I'll get back to space soon right? The next planet isn't some kind of Medieval planet where I get locked up in jail and escape through some kind of icy tunnel system right?"

    Well ok, I guess that works for SO3, but it seems everyone just expects every Star Ocean game to be like the first (and I suppose later) part of SO3, and the series has just never been like that. Well, whatever.

    You can do that in Rogue Galaxy though! I know you just love the heck out of that game!

    Schide on
  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I actually liked Star Ocean 3, until that horrific plot twist, of course. It was not handled well. I do remember the developers of 4 saying something along the lines of, "Yeah, no one liked that plot twist, so we're not going to do something like that this time." Hooray!

    My only beef from what I've seen of the game is that horrible, Japanese doll art style they have for the characters. I'll get through it, but I can't say it's my personal favorite type of character design.

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  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dude this game just looks too goddamn sexy. It really does. Whenever I see trailers for this game I just cant believe my eyes. Maybe itll look worse when I actually get to play it but even a small amount worse wouldnt hurt how great it already is.

    BLARG. Im too excited to play this. I cant keep coming to this thread.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm excited to play it, too, but I forgot it was actually coming out next month. The economy hasn't been all that easy on me, and Killzone 2 is also coming out in February. Please tell me those are the only two big releases that month!

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilder! Every once in awhile you have to say something stupid like that!

    SO2 is fun!

    SO3 isn't!

    Look to the right and you can plainly see that!

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dragon Quest 5 remake.

    I think this and that are the only two new games that I know about that I want that are coming out next month.

    Schide on
  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    It's because they start you out in space and the covers always use space and such. The first few hours of SO3 were all "Oh man, we're on a spaceship resort! Oh shit, robots and lasers! This is awesome! Now we're going at the speed of light and I'm talking to 5 different races of people! This is sweet! I really like th- wait why the fuck am I on a green forest where wells are the most advanced thing created? I'll get back to space soon right? The next planet isn't some kind of Medieval planet where I get locked up in jail and escape through some kind of icy tunnel system right?"

    Exactly. They make a huge fucking deal about futuristic bullshit in the intro/packaging and then they bury you in the dark ages for 95% of the game.

    SO2 does the same thing, although admittedly it doesn't cocktease as bad as SO3 does. First off the cover is all blue and spacey looking. Then this is word for word what's written on the back of the original box: "Discover what's out there. In an endless sea of stars, at the edge of the universe, a singe fateful encounter is about to take place." Then some stuff about a meteorite crashing into an unsuspecting planet. When you say endless sea of stars, you've put space into our mind. Not windmills. Not farms. We're imagining at least some semblance of futuristic stuff. If you're able to travel to the end of the universe, you're using a spaceship.

    So that's two out of three games taunting with space. Anyone want to tell me how SO1 teases you? I haven't played it so I can't say.
    Gilder! Every once in awhile you have to say something stupid like that!

    SO2 is fun!

    SO3 isn't!

    Look to the right and you can plainly see that!

    My unpopular opinion on SO3 is only matched by love of Legend of Mana and hatred of Secret of Mana. I'm a rebel like that I guess. If you'll excuse me, I need to go pop the collars on all of my shirts and then go take down the Sharks up on lookout point while riding my sweet hog over a couple of buses.

    Gilder on
  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    It's because they start you out in space and the covers always use space and such. The first few hours of SO3 were all "Oh man, we're on a spaceship resort! Oh shit, robots and lasers! This is awesome! Now we're going at the speed of light and I'm talking to 5 different races of people! This is sweet! I really like th- wait why the fuck am I on a green forest where wells are the most advanced thing created? I'll get back to space soon right? The next planet isn't some kind of Medieval planet where I get locked up in jail and escape through some kind of icy tunnel system right?"

    Exactly. They make a huge fucking deal about futuristic bullshit in the intro/packaging and then they bury you in the dark ages for 95% of the game.

    SO2 does the same thing, although admittedly it doesn't cocktease as bad as SO3 does. First off the cover is all blue and spacey looking. Then this is word for word what's written on the back of the original box: "Discover what's out there. In an endless sea of stars, at the edge of the universe, a singe fateful encounter is about to take place." Then some stuff about a meteorite crashing into an unsuspecting planet. When you say endless sea of stars, you've put space into our mind. Not windmills. Not farms. We're imagining at least some semblance of futuristic stuff. If you're able to travel to the end of the universe, you're using a spaceship.

    So that's two out of three games taunting with space. Anyone want to tell me how SO1 teases you? I haven't played it so I can't say.

    Fantasy medieval world. Crisis looms, caused by space war. Space farers intervene and present solution. Solution is to travel back in time. And at the end, the very very end you have the briefest of segments fighting in said space war.

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  • SchideSchide Yeoh! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Schide wrote: »
    And you know, I never understood why people always complain about Star Ocean games never being acutally all in space and sci-fi and stuff. Is it just the name? Because I'm pretty sure none of the games ever had you doing stuff like that.

    It's because they start you out in space and the covers always use space and such. The first few hours of SO3 were all "Oh man, we're on a spaceship resort! Oh shit, robots and lasers! This is awesome! Now we're going at the speed of light and I'm talking to 5 different races of people! This is sweet! I really like th- wait why the fuck am I on a green forest where wells are the most advanced thing created? I'll get back to space soon right? The next planet isn't some kind of Medieval planet where I get locked up in jail and escape through some kind of icy tunnel system right?"

    Exactly. They make a huge fucking deal about futuristic bullshit in the intro/packaging and then they bury you in the dark ages for 95% of the game.

    SO2 does the same thing, although admittedly it doesn't cocktease as bad as SO3 does. First off the cover is all blue and spacey looking. Then this is word for word what's written on the back of the original box: "Discover what's out there. In an endless sea of stars, at the edge of the universe, a singe fateful encounter is about to take place." Then some stuff about a meteorite crashing into an unsuspecting planet. When you say endless sea of stars, you've put space into our mind. Not windmills. Not farms. We're imagining at least some semblance of futuristic stuff. If you're able to travel to the end of the universe, you're using a spaceship.

    So that's two out of three games taunting with space. Anyone want to tell me how SO1 teases you? I haven't played it so I can't say.

    Fantasy medieval world. Crisis looms, caused by space war. Space farers intervene and present solution. Solution is to travel back in time. And at the end, the very very end you have the briefest of segments fighting in said space war.

    So pretty similar, sort of sci fi elements but largely set on a fantasy/medieval world.

    I guess my main point is that nobody should be going into SO4 expecting it to be different than its predecessors in this regard. It could be, but don't count on it.

    Schide on
  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Fantasy medieval world. Crisis looms, caused by space war. Space farers intervene and present solution. Solution is to travel back in time. And at the end, the very very end you have the briefest of segments fighting in said space war.

    I'll admit, I was afraid the answer was going to be that SO1 actually does take place in space. I can rest easy now. Do you even take any futuristic weapons? SO2 teased you with your laser gun and then it breaks so you fight with stones attached to sticks and stuff.

    The reason it got me so bad in SO3 was it was the first SO game I had played. So going to medieval world was really disappointing. In SO2 it wasn't that bad and now I'm going into SO4 already expecting it. When you know it's coming it isn't so bad. It's just.... why do it at all? Just give us space. It's a nearly untapped market. All there really is is Mass Effect and Xenosaga. Maybe KotoR as well.

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  • mastriusmastrius Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This next one looks a lot more ..uhh..."spacey"? Than the others. But dont count on anything.

    mastrius on
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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Technically it is spacey... I mean its not earth is it?

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  • LanrutconLanrutcon The LabyrinthRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    Lanrutcon wrote: »
    Fantasy medieval world. Crisis looms, caused by space war. Space farers intervene and present solution. Solution is to travel back in time. And at the end, the very very end you have the briefest of segments fighting in said space war.

    I'll admit, I was afraid the answer was going to be that SO1 actually does take place in space. I can rest easy now. Do you even take any futuristic weapons? SO2 teased you with your laser gun and then it breaks so you fight with stones attached to sticks and stuff.

    The reason it got me so bad in SO3 was it was the first SO game I had played. So going to medieval world was really disappointing. In SO2 it wasn't that bad and now I'm going into SO4 already expecting it. When you know it's coming it isn't so bad. It's just.... why do it at all? Just give us space. It's a nearly untapped market. All there really is is Mass Effect and Xenosaga. Maybe KotoR as well.

    Only futuristic weapon I can think of:
    One character is...odd. Nothing is ever confirmed with her and they throw a lot of hints around. She fights with a small metallic orb. Never throws it, simply wills it to do bad things to enemies. She's also a dead ringer to someone else's dead sister. She also knows a lot about futuristic technology and a lost civilization. She also disappears (read: goes away permanently) the second you find a body trapped in crystal within some ruins built by advanced beings. A body that looks exactly like her.

    There's a lot I don't remember about her but either she's magically controlling said orb or it's a robotic guardian. As to wether or not she's the dead sister or part of an ancient race or a timetraveller...fuck knows.

    Edit: The wiki says as follows:

    'Mavelle Foresson
    She is a wizard-like character who accompanies Ronyx and Millie to Ionis. Her weapon is a magic orb that she throws at the enemy. Unfortunately she cannot attack a second time until the orb comes back to her. She has little attack power and short attack range; however, her speed in casting Techniques are unparalleled. One of the more complex characters to recruit. If you've chosen Ashlay or Ioshua, Mavelle will join. If you don't have Ashlay or Ioshua, but instead Cyuss or Phia, she will not join at Ionis. If you have none of said characters, and choose not to have a drink at the reunion in Ionis, she will join. You can remove her from the party permanently if you have Ioshua in your party and visit a certain room in Sylvalant Ruins.'

    Bullshit. The game never expressly explained her powers, origin or the orb.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    To get away from talking about previous games in the series, does SO4 have anything like the battle trophy system? Aside from the really dumb ones like heal for exactly 7,777 HP, I really liked the concept. It was a neat way of unlocking costumes and rewards. Rather than doing obscure 15 step sidequests, it put your skills to the test. I felt like I had really earned something whenever I got a reward from doing those things.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Huh, Reimi's English voice actor was also Isara in Valkyria Chronicles, Luca in Ar toneico 2, and Marta in Tales of Symphonia 2. Don't recognize Edge's VA at all.

    Nothing's been said on Trophies so far, but they could probably just use achievements for a few of them.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    mastrius wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    SO2 is not a good game. It is in fact quite shitty if you play it today. There I said it. Semi-long rant ahead.
    The characters sucked, the dialogue was awful, and the battle system wasn't that great. People complained about being stuck on a backwater planet in 3 for a long time? Well in 2 you never fucking get off one. The only time it ever happens is at the end of planet 1 where you're on a spaceship for about 3 minutes. That was it. Then you go into a planet so advanced it relies on windmills. Wow game, thanks for sending to me the Netherlands of the future.

    I played SO2 after 3 and I prefer 3 in nearly every single way, shape, and form. While the plot twist was retarded beyond all reason and the minecart creatures can die in a fire, the battle system itself was actually fun. Anyone who actually died from MP loss also really sucked at the game because I got all the way up to the post-game sphere dungeon and never once died from it. It's actually there to help you because a lot of bosses have a criminally low amount of MP. So instead of whittling down 50,000 HP, just get rid of 20,000 MP.

    That aside, I'm actually really looking forward to this game. I already know that I should expect to be stuck in Amish country for the first half of the game but.... it's just so pretty. It's a pretty game. The battle system looks fun too.

    Ahhh Gilder. The voice of reason. Thank you my friend.


    You know why everyone hates 3?
    In 2, Claude fucks up. He's stuck on a backwards ass planet. Forever. With no hope of rescue. Star Ocean 2 is him dealing with it.

    Star Ocean motherfucking 3?

    OH MAN I GOTTA GET OFF THIS ROCK WE ARE SO GETTING OFF THIS ROCK I NEED TO FIND MY PARENTS IN SPACE WE NEED TO GET OFF THIS ROCK I HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO GET OFF THIS ROCK.

    They never get off the rock.

    It's all a video game.

    THAT'S why people hate Star Ocean 3

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    mastrius wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    SO2 is not a good game. It is in fact quite shitty if you play it today. There I said it. Semi-long rant ahead.
    The characters sucked, the dialogue was awful, and the battle system wasn't that great. People complained about being stuck on a backwater planet in 3 for a long time? Well in 2 you never fucking get off one. The only time it ever happens is at the end of planet 1 where you're on a spaceship for about 3 minutes. That was it. Then you go into a planet so advanced it relies on windmills. Wow game, thanks for sending to me the Netherlands of the future.

    I played SO2 after 3 and I prefer 3 in nearly every single way, shape, and form. While the plot twist was retarded beyond all reason and the minecart creatures can die in a fire, the battle system itself was actually fun. Anyone who actually died from MP loss also really sucked at the game because I got all the way up to the post-game sphere dungeon and never once died from it. It's actually there to help you because a lot of bosses have a criminally low amount of MP. So instead of whittling down 50,000 HP, just get rid of 20,000 MP.

    That aside, I'm actually really looking forward to this game. I already know that I should expect to be stuck in Amish country for the first half of the game but.... it's just so pretty. It's a pretty game. The battle system looks fun too.

    Ahhh Gilder. The voice of reason. Thank you my friend.


    You know why everyone hates 3?
    In 2, Claude fucks up. He's stuck on a backwards ass planet. Forever. With no hope of rescue. Star Ocean 2 is him dealing with it.

    Star Ocean motherfucking 3?

    OH MAN I GOTTA GET OFF THIS ROCK WE ARE SO GETTING OFF THIS ROCK I NEED TO FIND MY PARENTS IN SPACE WE NEED TO GET OFF THIS ROCK I HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO GET OFF THIS ROCK.

    They never get off the rock.

    It's all a video game.

    THAT'S why people hate Star Ocean 3
    Didn't Claude just touch some random object that warped him to god knows where? I don't remember him actually doing anything wrong besides being the main character.

    Fayt was a really sucky character though. It's easy to hate the game for him. He really got screwed though because what happened wasn't his fault either. It was a big space attack because someone aggro'd the wrong enemy group. Fayt and friends were just too new to take part in the battle. Also I already said the plot twist was dumb. It's easy to hate it for that. People need to take off their rose-tinted glasses though for SO2 because it has just as many flaws as SO3.

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  • Mx. QuillMx. Quill I now prefer "Myr. Quill", actually... {They/Them}Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This is strange:

    star-ocean-the-last-hope-2008121708.jpg

    star-ocean-the-last-hope-2009010911.jpg

    Seems like the Japanese version uses anime character art while the English uses CGI. Also, judging by the first picture, the upper right corner seems to imply that not all battle fields are circular.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I noticed that bottom picture shows a little girl party member. Argh! Nooooooooooooooo!

    I hate kid characters that join your party in JRPGs. Have there ever been any that weren't annoying little shits? I think Infinite Undiscovery was the worst offender.

    Mom: Please, take my children with you into battle for no apparent reason! I'm adamant!
    Her twin children (ugh): Please take us with you!
    Main character: What? No! That's a HORRIBLE idea!
    Stupid female party member: Sure, we'll take them!

    :x

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  • Serious_ScrubSerious_Scrub Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This reminds me of how Tales of Hearts was released as two separate editions, the only difference being that one had CG cutscenes, and the other with the traditional, anime-style cutscenes.
    Of course, the CG version was outsold by a factor of 10-1, because large eyes on a semi-realistic character model is downright creepy

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This reminds me of how Tales of Hearts was released as two separate editions, the only difference being that one had CG cutscenes, and the other with the traditional, anime-style cutscenes.
    Of course, the CG version was outsold by a factor of 10-1, because large eyes on a semi-realistic character model is downright creepy

    You made me look that up. I'm half expecting lasers to start shooting out of her eyes. She's so creepy!

    102212-talesofmongs.jpg
    102212-talesofmongs.jpg

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