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New PETA Anti-Sealing Ad Madness
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So I don't have a link to this, but I'll try to describe it and hope someone out there can find me one. This really should be seen.
PETA has a new commercial. It depicts a man out for a drive on a snow covered plain... he stops his vehicle and gets out to check something. Then some wildman with a club comes screaming at him out of nowhere and proceeds to beat his head in. This is all done slightly off camera of course, but the splash of blood across the windshield of his truck make it obvious he's just been viciously murdered. His murderer then proceeds to steal his coat and run off.
I saw it on the local news tonight and I was blown away.
Don't get me wrong, I hate people who mistreat their pets, but does anyone here think its wrong to equate an animal hunt thats been a necessary way of life for hundreds of years to the vicious and callous murder of a human being?
Has PETA lost their marbles?
PETA has a new commercial. It depicts a man out for a drive on a snow covered plain... he stops his vehicle and gets out to check something. Then some wildman with a club comes screaming at him out of nowhere and proceeds to beat his head in. This is all done slightly off camera of course, but the splash of blood across the windshield of his truck make it obvious he's just been viciously murdered. His murderer then proceeds to steal his coat and run off.
I saw it on the local news tonight and I was blown away.
Don't get me wrong, I hate people who mistreat their pets, but does anyone here think its wrong to equate an animal hunt thats been a necessary way of life for hundreds of years to the vicious and callous murder of a human being?
Has PETA lost their marbles?
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PETA, as an organization, lost their marbles at about the same instant they became an organization. They have never been sane. This is just another in a long, long, long, long string of wacky, crazy and disturbing shit they have done.
we hunt lots of animals
I still get a kick out of Penn & Teller's Bullshit episode on them. Oh, and their flash game that was made to parody Cooking Mama was hilarious! I love that game...
Economics? It is a huge part of the economy out east. HUGE. After the collapse of the almighty Cod, seal is one of the only things they have going for them out there. Seals are nuisances that have been hunted for hundreds of years, there are quotas in place to protect them from any danger of extinction.
PETA is being its usual self.
And before we get into the debate about cruelty and all that jazz, I'll state some things:
Using a gun against a seal is much much much more likely to be cruel compared to the traditional club. With a rifle, you can hit a non vital part, allowing the seal to suffer much longer as it bleeds out under the ice where no one can get it.
Skinning alive is a propaganda piece that PETA loves to use. You have to poke the seal in the eye to check for reflexes before you start skinning.
Lastly, seal fur is awesome and oh so soft.
I'm sure the same goes for people hunting elephants for ivory and rhinos for their horns.
Oh yeah, and a lot of poor people in China make their living by milking bears for their bile.
If the seals are a source of food and their furs are a profitable byproduct, then it's no problem. But if jackasses are hunting them simply because they make a pretty scarf, then that's fucking immoral.
Isn't this kind of propaghanda a sort of terrorism? If they're willing to say that killing seals is as bad as killing people, maybe some of them are the type to go looking for revenge?
As an organization, I'd personally put PETA in the same realm as Scientology. Both of them thrive on media and celebrity.
Except your examples are all endangered, whereas the seals in question are not. How much of a non-endangered animal must you plan to use before it's okay to kill it? If you object to killing an animal just for its hides, do you also object to killing an animal just for its flesh?
Fuck those guys. And all eco terrorists in general.
Although the naked chicks saying no to fur can stay. But only if they stay naked and don't talk.
So can humans are they ok to hunt?
No. Humans can think. Do you have any serious question here?
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
So if the reason we can't hunt something is because it can think. That is a pretty loose definition isn't it? Who gets to decide what animals think and which ones don't. How smart does the animal have to be.
Dolphin smart?
Trained dog smart?
Apparently not seal smart. (although those seals at sea world do some pretty neat tricks so I would say that at some level can think a little bit)
The reason that happens with deer, though, is because of human actions, not a virtue of the animal on its own. I suspect the same thing might be true for seals, but I don't know. But I do know that seal hunting also isn't something that happens on the level of whale hunting. It seems like something that maintains profitability without a large initial investment.
They are also delicious.
Human smart. If you are human smart or endangered you get a pass. That's it.
Edit: Or if there are practical, unsentimental reasons why hunting the animal is objectively bad.
Or do they get thinking animal status protection? (is there even such a thing?)
Why do we protect some animals (big cute whales) and not others (Blue crabs in Maryland. Which are very popular and being fished to almost extinction)
Or a house pet.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
@Hippy: Yeah I know, and it's not something I'm happy about, but I'd rather the animals died from a gunshot than from starvation after stripping the land bare around them.
So then you are fine with the whale hunters because they are not endangering those whales?
Because I like that definition. It make sense and treats all animals the same regardless of some weirdo OH they can think or CUTE! reason.
If there's a wild poodle colony out there somewhere that someone wants to hunt, I'm kind of okay with it.
Edit: Yeah, I'm down with whale hunting if the whales they are hunting aren't endangered. I'd love to try a whaleburger.
Well how do you humanely kill a whale?
I mean they are fucking huge. Exploding harpoons is about the best you can hope for to still keep the fuckers in enough pieces to get something out of the carcass.
Can you only kill it if you can do it humanely?
I am totally in agreement on that.
I have another question for you. If you think its ok to kill / hunt an animal that is not going extinct is ok. What about hunting animals just for sport. Not using the meat or gaining anything by it just going out to bag a tiger to get a kick ass rug.
That episode sucked. It was all just ad hominem and "deal with it" and "oh look the peta people use things that were made by animal testing." The Nazis tested medical things on Jews. That doesn't make me a Nazi too if I use those things.
but they're listening to every word I say
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef1VMw6XRt4
God bless youtube.
Is it orcas? Are orcas frequently hunted?