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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Air wrote: »
    now youre just being an apple sympathiser

    Which is weird, because I don't even really like their products or think they're worth the price. And I basically think that sodas are things that people should pretty much never drink.

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  • AirAir Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    youre the guy whos always arguing about stuff

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    GRMike wrote: »
    So is the point that there shouldn't be any real life products in shows period?

    Not really. The point is that real-life products put in there just to be realistic are cool. If characters need to drink a soda or listen to a portable music device, then using a real-world one that makes sense for the character to use is fine. What's a problem is when the script starts being written around a specific product.
    GRMike wrote: »
    I am pretty sure the Sandals reference in the Office was just to show how lame Michael Scott can be, since Sandals is a pretty lame and touristy resort and he was trying to slant it like a romantic vacation...

    Really? My fiancee wants to go there for our honeymoon. She would rather go there than Hawaii, in fact.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    It's not product placement if money does not change hands between the product manufacturer and the program in question.

    Seriously, look it up.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Sandals are like the Six Flags of beach resorts. Just warning you in advance.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    That's what I expected, but she seemed to think it would be fun. Then again, I think she would find Six Flags fun.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm sure you would have a blast, honestly. I just think the joke factor is because he posed it as a romantic remote island getaway.

    It would be like saying you charted a private boat and then show people pictures from your Carnival Cruise.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

    Schlitterbahn (local water park) has like 4 of those. One is in a giant hot tub.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    GRMike wrote: »
    I'm sure you would have a blast, honestly. I just think the joke factor is because he posed it as a romantic remote island getaway.

    It would be like saying you charted a private boat and then show people pictures from your Carnival Cruise.

    Well...yeah, I hope so too. Assuming that we actually go with that. Actually, my real concern is that she has fun there. I'm not really the kind of person who likes to take time off from my day-to-day life. Ha, now I remember that joke. He was talking like it was some little-known private thing, and it was this huge commercial operation that has big posters in travel agents' windows all over the country.
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

    That sounds like the kind of thing that kicks the crap out of your resort's insurance rates.

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I'm going to starting planning one myself. She isn't a big fan of the beach though... I'm thinking ski trip.

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Defender wrote: »
    GRMike wrote: »
    I'm sure you would have a blast, honestly. I just think the joke factor is because he posed it as a romantic remote island getaway.

    It would be like saying you charted a private boat and then show people pictures from your Carnival Cruise.

    Well...yeah, I hope so too. Assuming that we actually go with that. Actually, my real concern is that she has fun there. I'm not really the kind of person who likes to take time off from my day-to-day life. Ha, now I remember that joke. He was talking like it was some little-known private thing, and it was this huge commercial operation that has big posters in travel agents' windows all over the country.
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

    That sounds like the kind of thing that kicks the crap out of your resort's insurance rates.
    Not to mention the poor janitorial staff.

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  • ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Defender wrote: »
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

    That sounds like the kind of thing that kicks the crap out of your resort's insurance rates.

    good god, who thinks like this

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2009
    ascot wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

    That sounds like the kind of thing that kicks the crap out of your resort's insurance rates.

    good god, who thinks like this

    Tell me about it. I was just picturing myself floating in the pool with a long island iced tea in one hand and some other frilly umbrella drink in the other.

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  • ascotascot Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    spare me, please

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    ascot wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    I want to go to a Sandals just for the swim up bar.

    That sounds like the kind of thing that kicks the crap out of your resort's insurance rates.

    good god, who thinks like this

    Tell me about it. I was just picturing myself floating in the pool with a long island iced tea in one hand and some other frilly umbrella drink in the other.

    Yeah, I'm not interested in that at all. My job is to keep another person happy and safe. Like I said, this shit isn't what I like to do with my time, it's something I do for someone else.

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    defender is a cold soulless husk of a man

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    defender is a cold soulless husk of a man

    Nah, I'm just a person who likes work more than play. At some point as a kid I guess it dawned on me that I'd be spending a shitload of time at work. Maybe it was because I'd get home several hours before my father. So I figured that I'd better get a job that lets me do fun things. With my interests and apparent potential, I narrowed it down to either ninja master or video game programmer. Now the thing is that I have so much fun at my job and in my nightly martial arts practice that I don't want to do other stuff. Taking a week off isn't fun because I actually miss doing the stuff that happens to keep me healthy and well-paid. It's a hard concept for most people, but imagine if your job was fun. You wouldn't want to miss it.

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited May 2009
    yes well that's all great

    but you're arguing against a swim-up bar here

    besides not having anything to do with loving your job, only some kind of monster could dislike that idea

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  • CrossBusterCrossBuster Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I get really self-conscious when I have my shirt off in public.

    Now, a walk-up bar on a nice beach, that's something I could do.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Snowbeat wrote: »
    yes well that's all great

    but you're arguing against a swim-up bar here

    besides not having anything to do with loving your job, only some kind of monster could dislike that idea

    I don't really drink a lot, though, so what we're actually talking about here is a pool where there are other people in the pool and they are drinking.

    I also didn't argue against it, it just doesn't really do anything for me personally.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited May 2009
    my job isnt the most fun thing in the world but its really rewarding and i learn a lot

    so i can do fun things when i am not at work like go to a resort with a swim up bar

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  • GRMikeGRMike The Last Best Hope for Humanity The God Pod Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I get really self-conscious when I have my shirt off in public.

    Now, a walk-up bar on a nice beach, that's something I could do.

    Enough Mojitos you wouldn't give a shit about the man boobs.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    robothero wrote: »
    my job isnt the most fun thing in the world but its really rewarding and i learn a lot

    so i can do fun things when i am not at work like go to a resort with a swim up bar

    Right. My job, though, is pretty much the most fun thing in the world (for me) that doesn't involve cleaning up after finishing.

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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I hate taking time off unless I have a specific thing in mind to help fill the hours where I wouldn't otherwise be working.

    Like, if I'm going on vacation that's cool, cause I know I'll be going on vacation and I know where I'll be going, so I can plan fun things to do ahead of time, though. But if I had to choose between working and just sitting around the house doing nothing, I'd rather be at work. The past few months have been hell because I based my entire schedule around the fact I'd have class during the week and since that got cut short my days have been absolutely restless.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Javen wrote: »
    I hate taking time off unless I have a specific thing in mind to help fill the hours where I wouldn't otherwise be working.

    Like, if I'm going on vacation that's cool, cause I know I'll be going on vacation and I know where I'll be going, so I can plan fun things to do ahead of time, though. But if I had to choose between working and just sitting around the house doing nothing, I'd rather be at work. The past few months have been hell because I based my entire schedule around the fact I'd have class during the week and since that got cut short my days have been absolutely restless.

    Yeah, she's more of the "sleep in on the weekends" type, so vacations with her tend to be just doing nothing. She apparently benefits from that, but I don't. So, like you, I sit there and think "I am wasting time and getting out of shape right now. I'll have to pay for this later, and I'm not even getting anything done."

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2009
    Defender wrote: »
    Defender wrote: »
    It doesn't bother me at all, really. Shows are expensive to run, if it takes a character eating a McFlurry instead of a McGeneric shake to keep it going, I'm fine. It's no less jarring than Britney Spears popping up in an episode for no other reason than to boost ratings. Actually, I prefer product placement.

    "Shows are expensive to run" is a bullshit excuse. Like "movie theaters are expensive to run" so therefore it's OK to show twenty minutes of ads before the film. No, it's not OK, it's fucking obnoxious, and other shows on the same network (The Office) manage to do it without in-show ads.

    The Office? Really? The Office is the biggest product placement whore there is. What the hell do you think Michael's trip to Sandals was? Or that site Jim and Pam used to rate Dwight's bed and breakfast? Or Second Life?

    And Chuck's showrunners have outright stated that the product placement they do is what allows them to pay for the effects and guest starts they use on a regular basis.

    I haven't seen Chuck, so I don't know how they do anything. Michael's trip to Sandals felt a little shaky, but it didn't leap out at me and it was relevant to the plot, in that it revealed their relationship to other characters. I don't remember what site Jim and Pam used to rate Dwight's B&B, but in retrospect I could see that. Second Life, man, that seemed derogatory toward the product, especially when Jim implied that Second Life is full of "losers." There was also a scene early on where Jim and Pam listened to an iPod together, though I don't think they necessarily said it was an iPod. And there was a scene where a character mentioned wanting to watch Lost, which I believe runs on a rival network. Dwight has also mentioned Battlestar Galactica like a jillion times...I don't know where that runs, but I assume it's not NBC. The Staples and Office Depot references seem like fair game, given that it's a "real-world" paper company.

    My point in listing this stuff is that The Office seems heavy on pop culture and real-world references, but other than Sandals, none of them really stick out as in-show ads. And even Sandals was relevant to the plot, though admittedly it could've been any resort. Oh, and Hewlett-Packard, I will give you that one. The few times they've mentioned that, it's been a little awkward, like I'd basically expect it be Dell if it were attempting to be realistic, unless their computers are from the 1980s or something when HP was the top corporate choice (I think).
    I said "it wasn't funny" in response to Geebs' assertion that it was funny. It's interesting that you challenge me on this being subjective, but not him. As if opinions that agree with yours are sacred in some way. Oops! Your own reasoning turns right back around on you.

    I don't remember saying this. Please do not put words in my mouth Defender, if your argument was good you wouldn't have to make up points. Please remember this in the future.

    You said that it "didn't affect the quality of the show," which you clearly believe to be a funny show. Having a two-minute scene with nothing resembling humor would definitely affect the quality of a comedy show, obviously, which therefore means that you don't consider their product placement to be unfunny. Really good effort on this one, though.

    Wow, you found a lot of meaning in that one sentence. From that paragraph I can determine that you overanalyze things and you are somewhat of a blowhard that can't accept that he may have made a mistake in a discussion. And the close to this emphasizes how dismissive you are towards people who disagree with you, leading me to believe that you are a pretentious assmunch convinced of his own superiority.

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  • Charles KinboteCharles Kinbote Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Can I just say that Sandals, being a cheap, gentrified vacation spot for people who want to go to Jamaica without experiencing Jamaica, may have been more a move to establish Michael's character (remember his favorite NYC pizza spot is Sbarro's) than a plea for money.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2009
    You can, but I never said it was product placement that ruined the quality of the show. If anything, the fact that Defender didn't even pay them enough mind to bring it up proves that product placement isn't always intrusive crap that makes a show terrible.

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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Geebs, it's like you've never met defender. I know you have done this with him before, at this point it's your fault.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Wow, you found a lot of meaning in that one sentence. From that paragraph I can determine that you overanalyze things and you are somewhat of a blowhard that can't accept that he may have made a mistake in a discussion. And the close to this emphasizes how dismissive you are towards people who disagree with you, leading me to believe that you are a pretentious assmunch convinced of his own superiority.

    No, I didn't really "find a lot of meaning" in it. I simply explained it step-by-step because you were pretending not to have made a claim that you did, in fact, make, but without saying it directly. Which you were doing because you wanted to find some way that you could "win" by "proving me wrong," which is probably because you might be a snivelling cunt with an inferiority complex. Oh, and nice use of the word "blowhard" there. I like how you regurgitate a piece of text that I purposely placed right under my username.

    Also, about me being dismissive to people who don't agree with me, you're just flat wrong. If you have an intelligent perspective, I won't dismiss it and I may even change my mind. It's happened before. But let's pretend it didn't, that way you can feel like a winner.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2009
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Geebs, it's like you've never met defender. I know you have done this with him before, at this point it's your fault.

    it's like my subtle comedic stylings are escaping everyone's notice

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Geebs, it's like you've never met defender. I know you have done this with him before, at this point it's your fault.

    it's like my subtle comedic stylings are escaping everyone's notice

    Like one of those really tiny iPods.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2009
    I can't have a really tiny ipod because I will lose it

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  • No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Defender wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Geebs, it's like you've never met defender. I know you have done this with him before, at this point it's your fault.

    it's like my subtle comedic stylings are escaping everyone's notice

    Like one of those really tiny generic mp3 players.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    Defender wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Geebs, it's like you've never met defender. I know you have done this with him before, at this point it's your fault.

    it's like my subtle comedic stylings are escaping everyone's notice

    Like one of those really tiny generic mp3 players.

    Thanks, Ted.

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  • AMP'dAMP'd Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    The size of the newest Shuffle is just asinine

    I like my MP3 player to have a little bit of heft, so that I don't fee like I'm going to crush it, you know?

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    AMP'd wrote: »
    The size of the newest Shuffle is just asinine

    I like my MP3 player to have a little bit of heft, so that I don't fee like I'm going to crush it, you know?

    I also don't like my mp3 players talking to me. It's the first step towards an eventual iPod that mocks you for not listening to the same pretentious hipster music it does.

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited May 2009
    I have like the old...20 or 60, I forget. But a really old one. I haven't used it in a while because I don't have an adapter for my car.

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