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Measuring a running track

proXimityproXimity Registered User regular
edited March 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I've started running on a certain track at my school, but nobody (I've asked around) seems to know how long it actually is. The best way I could figure to measure it is by using the satellite imagery from Google Maps, but doing it that way gave me an answer almost right in the middle of 1/4 and 1/5 miles for the distance. Then a runner friend suggested that the track could be 400m/440yards and that doesn't help at all.

If I were to measure my stride then count how many paces to go around the track, would I stay on the inside, or outside, or somewhere in the middle for the most accurate measure? (It's just dirt, so there's no fancy markings showing equal distances around it)

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    400m is the standard size, measured at the innermost lane.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Yeah, 400m seems to be right.

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  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Unless it's an oddly shaped track, it's 400m from the innermost lane, meaning 4 laps will equate to about a mile.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    proXimity wrote: »
    Then a runner friend suggested that the track could be 400m/440yards and that doesn't help at all.

    You used satellite imagery to determine it was around a quarter of a mile, and then a runner friend tells you how long the track would be (because they're always 400m) and you still think this question isn't answered why?

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    If it's like 99.9% of the tracks in the world, each lap in lane 1 will be 400m, and 4 laps will be 1600m (1.6km) or about 31 ft less than one mile. If you want 4 laps to equal exactly one mile, run in lane 3 which will get you pretty close.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Otherwise you could get a wheel that is exactly 1 yard in circumference, put it on a stick, and count the rotations as you go around the track.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Veevee wrote: »
    Otherwise you could get a wheel that is exactly 1 yard in circumference, put it on a stick, and count the rotations as you go around the track.

    They have those, you can get them at most hardware stores.

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Doc wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Otherwise you could get a wheel that is exactly 1 yard in circumference, put it on a stick, and count the rotations as you go around the track.

    They have those, you can get them at most hardware stores.

    I was going to say that, but he seemed determined to do it the hardest way possible.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    I think you need to use a laser distance measure tool to get the dimensions of the track length and width, and then using calculus write up some formulas that help with the rounded corners.

    This is probably the easiest way so you're going to have to go do it.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Veevee wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Otherwise you could get a wheel that is exactly 1 yard in circumference, put it on a stick, and count the rotations as you go around the track.

    They have those, you can get them at most hardware stores.

    I was going to say that, but he seemed determined to do it the hardest way possible.

    Oh in that case

    The adult blue whale is 80 feet long on average, so lay out a bunch of them on the track and divide by 80. The tricky part is that 80 feet is just an average, so you will have to do this a statistically large number of times and find the median result.

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  • proXimityproXimity Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    musanman wrote: »
    proXimity wrote: »
    Then a runner friend suggested that the track could be 400m/440yards and that doesn't help at all.

    You used satellite imagery to determine it was around a quarter of a mile, and then a runner friend tells you how long the track would be (because they're always 400m) and you still think this question isn't answered why?

    He didn't say it was 400m, just that it might be. And I didn't determine it to be 1/4 mile, just *somewhere* between 1/4 and 1/5, a result that confused me.

    Anyways, off to the store to go buy some blue whales.

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  • ilmmadilmmad Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    My middle school had a 1/5-mile track. They are, however, uncommon.

    Assume it's a standard 400m (~1/4-mile).

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited March 2009
    www.mapmyfitness.com

    Not sure if that's what you used...but it's pretty accurate.

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  • Teslan26Teslan26 Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    musanman wrote: »
    then using calculus write up some formulas that help with the rounded corners.

    How in the name of God would you do that?

    If you got measurements for width, and height, even then I cannot see a way to write that unless it is a perfect circle.....

    Unless using (x/a)^2 + (y/b)^2 = r^2

    Hmm.

    >_>

    This is way more fun than real work.

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  • TrentusTrentus Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Doc wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Otherwise you could get a wheel that is exactly 1 yard in circumference, put it on a stick, and count the rotations as you go around the track.

    They have those, you can get them at most hardware stores.

    I'd check with the school to see if they have any first. I know both my primary and highschool had a stock of meter wheels that they'd crack out for various things (measuring track lengths on sports days being where they'd get the most use). Just take one around the track and count the clicks, or just zone out for a bit if it's one of those fancy ones that keeps count for you.

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  • SporkedSporked Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    You could always get on a bicycle with an odometer and ride a lap. This, in fact, would be the easiest way if you can get a bike with a computer. They're pretty accurate. Also, it's probably 400m.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Sporked wrote: »
    You could always get on a bicycle with an odometer and ride a lap. This, in fact, would be the easiest way if you can get a bike with a computer. They're pretty accurate. Also, it's probably 400m.

    measure the circumference of the bike's wheel, and put a credit card sticking into the back spokes. Count how many spokes you have, and as you ride keep track of all of the ticks (this may be difficult but it's the easiest way!) and then divide.

    I see no alternative other than the blue whales.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    This is the best thread.

    Edit:
    I'm going to go out on a limb and say ask the school or the gym teachers.

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  • proXimityproXimity Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    musanman wrote: »
    Sporked wrote: »
    You could always get on a bicycle with an odometer and ride a lap. This, in fact, would be the easiest way if you can get a bike with a computer. They're pretty accurate. Also, it's probably 400m.

    measure the circumference of the bike's wheel, and put a credit card sticking into the back spokes. Count how many spokes you have, and as you ride keep track of all of the ticks (this may be difficult but it's the easiest way!) and then divide.

    I see no alternative other than the blue whales.

    Aha! Best suggestion I've seen! Now if only I had a bike...

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  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    you should go to an official track that will be exactly 400m in the inner lane.

    Run it while holding your breath and only take breaths when you absolutely need to. Count the number of breaths you take.

    Then run this mystery track and see if it takes you the same number of breaths.
    You might pass out (or die if you have a heart condition) but hey it beats doing calculus or statistics right?

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  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    The track I usually go to is 16 blue whales, although I've heard some people insist that it's 16.5.

    Hope that helps.

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  • musanmanmusanman Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    The track I usually go to is 16 blue whales, although I've heard some people insist that it's 16.5.

    Hope that helps.

    Those people that say 16.5 are fucking idiots and should be shot

    They used the mean and didn't realize that the mean isn't resistant to outliers. They only did it once and had a whale that was genetically modified and hit 85'. They need to use the median and do some basic fucking statistics for once in their life.

    I would bust out the empirical rule on their sorry asses but they probably can't even spell standard deviation.

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  • Unearthly StewUnearthly Stew Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    proXimity wrote: »
    musanman wrote: »
    Sporked wrote: »
    You could always get on a bicycle with an odometer and ride a lap. This, in fact, would be the easiest way if you can get a bike with a computer. They're pretty accurate. Also, it's probably 400m.

    measure the circumference of the bike's wheel, and put a credit card sticking into the back spokes. Count how many spokes you have, and as you ride keep track of all of the ticks (this may be difficult but it's the easiest way!) and then divide.

    I see no alternative other than the blue whales.

    Aha! Best suggestion I've seen! Now if only I had a bike...

    You ought to submerge the track into a tank with a computerized blue whale. Ride the whale around the track four times and it will probably come out to 1600 meters. Then you can divide by four easily.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2009
    Okay do this

    take a measuring tape

    measure how wide the tape is

    then if you buy enough measuring tapes, you can figure it out in measuring-tape-width units.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited March 2009
    Hire a geographer and have the track surveyed.

    Also if you're going to use the whale method, I recommend humpbacks. They're smaller, but it's easier to get a bunch of them at once.

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