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Street Fighter 4 Grievance Issue

KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
edited April 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
As grievances go, this is a pretty damn annoying one.

I got the game on Tuesday, and have only just really started to try it out since I had other stuff to be doing. I'm on the Trial option in the Challenges section, where you have to do a certain move to progress. All well and good with my man Vega throughout the first and second trial bits, but then on what I can only hope is the final challenge of section 2, I'm tasked with doing his Utra Combo, the "Bloody High Claw".

So now we have a problem. It's impossible. I know what I have to do, I have the directions and controls for said attack clearly displayed on both the screen and the instruction booklet in front of me. And yet when I try to perform said move, the masked bastard either just kicks Dan the punching bag, or does one of up to 3 different moves (Scarlet Terror, Flying Barcelona Attack or Flying Barcelona Special to be precise).

Is this move so damn difficult for anyone else? Is it just because I suck major ass at this game, and indeed games in general. Or is it down to the now infamous 360 gamepad which is shit for fighting games (apparently)?

Or, preferably, could somebody put what I have to do for said attack into simpler terms as opposed to the multi-direction "arrows-on-a-red-dot and foot symbols" in the instruction booklet?

EDIT: I managed it once, but that was just by stressing out about it and assaulting the controller. Plus apparently if you don't hit Dan with the move it doesn't count, so I'm stuck trying to do it or figuring out just how in the hell I managed it last time

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you're using the D-pad, don't. It's horrible about hitting directions you didn't mean to. I can't even scroll through the dashboard half the time without it jumping somewhere else.

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  • KeyScourgeKeyScourge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    I'm not using the D-pad. I tried it briefly with D-pad and I was all over the shop. Kept jumping when I didn't mean to, very annoying

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    If you're using the D-pad, don't. It's horrible about hitting directions you didn't mean to. I can't even scroll through the dashboard half the time without it jumping somewhere else.

    Plus Street Fighter is meant to be played with an a joystick/thumbstick. That's how it's been made on every arcade cabinet. When you try and play Street Figher with a d-pad, the terrorists win.

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  • RUNN1NGMANRUNN1NGMAN Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Granted, I haven't actually played the game, but every review I've read has said that the game is unplayable with the 360 controller. You need a 3rd party gamepad or joystick to pull of any of the more complicated moves.

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  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I've had some challenges myself pulling of some of the SF4 moves. It's really all about timing, and getting it down to be a habit. While it's frustrating, it is possible. Keep practicing.

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  • PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Search for videos on youtube. Some of the combos the game asks you to do have strange timing or juggle in ways you wouldn't expect. Most characters have youtube compilations of all of their challenge combos available.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    what you want to do is hold down/back for about 2 seconds, then hit down/forward, down/back, then up/forward and the button that should already be assigned to 3 Kicks

    so you get:

    [c]harge d/b, d/f, d/b, u/f+3K

    Compared to some of the stuff you have to do in the hard trials, this is an absolutele joke.
    Try doing C.Viper's hard trials and you'll be crying before you know it. Even stuff like Dhalsim's qcf~u/f+3P, b+Jhp, b+mk, hcb+lp, qcf,qcf+P during an actual match is easier. *Shakes fist at Viper*

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  • HelloweenHelloween Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I have a crappy chart made to try and help

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    Make it all one smooth flowing motion followed by the kicks.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Helloween wrote: »
    I have a crappy chart made to try and help

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    Make it all one smooth flowing motion followed by the kicks.

    1. Charge down/back for at least 2 seconds.

    2. Roll from down/back to down to down/forward in a quick motion.

    3. Immediately roll from down/forward to down to down/back in a quick motion.

    4. Quickly jam the pad to up/forward and at the same time press all three kick buttons simultaneously.

    5. PRACTICE IT.

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  • HelloweenHelloween Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    B:L wrote: »
    Helloween wrote: »
    I have a crappy chart made to try and help

    supah.gif

    Make it all one smooth flowing motion followed by the kicks.

    1. Charge down/back for at least 2 seconds.

    2. Roll from down/back to down to down/forward in a quick motion.

    3. Immediately roll from down/forward to down to down/back in a quick motion.

    4. Quickly jam the pad to up/forward and at the same time press all three kick buttons simultaneously.

    5. PRACTICE IT.

    Thats how I did it for Guiles super to ultra. It works fine normally? Well thats better than mine then :P

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    The challenge mode is a major bitch. While it's good for learning timing and such, a large number of the combos in the hard challenges are totally useless for the actual game. Hell, enough of them require sub-1/10-second timing that it's pretty tough to reproduce them twice in a row, much less in a reliable manner.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You know, I've never had an issue with the D pad.

    Until this game.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Doc wrote: »
    The challenge mode is a major bitch. While it's good for learning timing and such, a large number of the combos in the hard challenges are totally useless for the actual game. Hell, enough of them require sub-1/10-second timing that it's pretty tough to reproduce them twice in a row, much less in a reliable manner.

    Try telling that to the top Japanese players =p

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    ApexMirage wrote: »
    Doc wrote: »
    The challenge mode is a major bitch. While it's good for learning timing and such, a large number of the combos in the hard challenges are totally useless for the actual game. Hell, enough of them require sub-1/10-second timing that it's pretty tough to reproduce them twice in a row, much less in a reliable manner.

    Try telling that to the top Japanese players =p

    I say this as someone who can pull off a few loops of El Fuerte's infinite combo. I don't suck that hard, but there are much easier combos than what they give you in the trials that do more damage.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    God damn it I wish I could play this game against someone besides my brother. He is no warrior.

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  • ApexMirageApexMirage Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    God damn it I wish I could play this game against someone besides my brother. He is no warrior.

    Do you not have internet access?

    And Doc, I didn't mean to imply that they're all the best possible options when it comes to the effort/dmg ration, but some of them are definitely viable.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I currently live on the eighth floor of a building which is so old that it is barely wired for electricity, let alone internet. The only reason I'm able to post here is because I pick up a nearby wireless signal.

    I'm uh..looking for a new place.

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  • JoJoHoraHoraJoJoHoraHora ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    You can also do Vegas and Guiles Ultra using up/backwards at the end instead of up/forwards. That how I was able to do it.

    So after charging down/back and pressing down/forward, you would do a half circle all the way to Up/backwards and press the three Kicks (or Punches).

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  • AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    SammyF wrote: »
    If you're using the D-pad, don't. It's horrible about hitting directions you didn't mean to. I can't even scroll through the dashboard half the time without it jumping somewhere else.

    Plus Street Fighter is meant to be played with an a joystick/thumbstick. That's how it's been made on every arcade cabinet. When you try and play Street Figher with a d-pad, the terrorists win.

    So the terrorists win when you buy a street fighter fightpad?
    D-pad's fine on the PS3.

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