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Call of Juarez: Why aren't you playing it?
manwiththemachinegun
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Upgraded my PC and finally had a machine to play this sucker on. What I found was the best Western game since Lucasarts did Outlaws.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/12795.html
The gameplay is two fold, you play as Reverend Ray, an ex-outlaw, gunslinger and murderer turned preacher.
"Our religious fella Reverend Ray is like Lee Marvin got Brokeback Mountain with Clint Eastwood, somehow managed to get him pregnant and gave birth to the hardest son of a bitch who ever walked the Earth. Who then became a preacher to repent for being the hardest son of a bitch who ever walked the Earth. And then decided, actually, God wanted him to use being the hardest son of a bitch who ever walked the Earth for a Higher Purpose."
And Billy Candle, half Indian youth who returns to see his troubled family and gets caught up in murder, lost treasure, and half the scum in the west gunning for him. Billy's nice kid who's been handed a raw deal, and is quite the smart ass. He does show a lot of emotion though, fear, anger and resignation. There's some really outstanding voice acting in this game, and both Billy and Ray have distinct and likable personalities in their own way.
The game throws you a few steep learning curves and a few trial and error sequences, but the result is something awesome. You basically get to do everything you've ever seen in a western, and man is it cool. Clearing mainstreet with twin revolvers blazing, horseback riding, Apache fighin, fisticuff, gatling guns, TNT. And there's really nothing like putting an arrow snap shot into the cranium of an outlaw who was *just* about to blow you away. Oh yeah, and you can use the Bible as a weapon to stun guys senseless with awesome and sound like Jules from Pulp Fiction before you fill them with lead, how cool is that?
So, pretty much Unforgiven meets Fistful of Dollars and Dr. Quinn for your requisite love story (I kid, I kid).
If you give it some time, and have the hardware to run it, you won't be disappointed. And there's a sequel coming out soon to boot.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/12795.html
The gameplay is two fold, you play as Reverend Ray, an ex-outlaw, gunslinger and murderer turned preacher.
"Our religious fella Reverend Ray is like Lee Marvin got Brokeback Mountain with Clint Eastwood, somehow managed to get him pregnant and gave birth to the hardest son of a bitch who ever walked the Earth. Who then became a preacher to repent for being the hardest son of a bitch who ever walked the Earth. And then decided, actually, God wanted him to use being the hardest son of a bitch who ever walked the Earth for a Higher Purpose."
And Billy Candle, half Indian youth who returns to see his troubled family and gets caught up in murder, lost treasure, and half the scum in the west gunning for him. Billy's nice kid who's been handed a raw deal, and is quite the smart ass. He does show a lot of emotion though, fear, anger and resignation. There's some really outstanding voice acting in this game, and both Billy and Ray have distinct and likable personalities in their own way.
The game throws you a few steep learning curves and a few trial and error sequences, but the result is something awesome. You basically get to do everything you've ever seen in a western, and man is it cool. Clearing mainstreet with twin revolvers blazing, horseback riding, Apache fighin, fisticuff, gatling guns, TNT. And there's really nothing like putting an arrow snap shot into the cranium of an outlaw who was *just* about to blow you away. Oh yeah, and you can use the Bible as a weapon to stun guys senseless with awesome and sound like Jules from Pulp Fiction before you fill them with lead, how cool is that?
So, pretty much Unforgiven meets Fistful of Dollars and Dr. Quinn for your requisite love story (I kid, I kid).
If you give it some time, and have the hardware to run it, you won't be disappointed. And there's a sequel coming out soon to boot.
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I mean honestly, this is the exact reason I never bought Shadow of Rome
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So maybe that's why? I don't know
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Gun was fine. At least if we're talking consoles. I can't say anything about a PC version, but it's 'GTA in the Old West' so I'd imagine it'd feel similar to that. PSP? Why play a GTA clone on a handheld anyway?
The big knock against it is that there really isn't much to do. The game is really very short, there are only two towns, and once you complete all the side jobs and the main story, there is shit all to do.
I do recommend it because it's got pretty good atmosphere and it should be found around dirt cheap.
Call of Juarez dropped off my list precisely because it's a FPS. But then, I'm not much for those types of games. I tried the demo and it wasn't anything particularly interesting to me. Though I may get it once I exhaust much of my back catalogue.
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Which is why I'm looking forward to Red Dead Redemption
One big giant GTA-style open world homage to spaghetti westerns made by people who (hopefully) know what they're doing
Although really, all I want is the ability to leap from my horse onto a speeding train and maybe have a fistfight with some dudes on top of it
As long as I can do that it'll be the best western game ever made
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I really liked the multiplayer, though. Too bad it's a ghost town.
Gun was solid, but I think that - much like No More Heroes - people saw something that looked like a GTA clone and immediately blasted it for not doing the GTA open-world stuff well. If you play it as a straight up action game that just happens to have an overworld then it's pretty good for what it is.
And honestly, I'm not too excited about the Red Dead going more the GTA route. If it's good then of course I won't complain (much), but in this case I honestly don't see why you need to introduce the sandbox gameplay when you can just have a polished and focused experience.
I mean, you could rob banks, rob trains, be deputized and get a posse together to hunt bandits, maybe fight or befriend some indians, start/get involved in barfights, maybe play some poker in a minigame, and that's only if we're doing frontier towns, if we include bigger towns like old tmey San Francisco or Dodge City that introduces a number of other elements, like more traditiona gangs, and random events where other people are getting into shootouts in the street or the police are having a showdown with some bank robbers or some shit
And if it's on the border and you could cross into Mexico, oh well then shit just gets even crazier when banditos are around, plus you might have an army faction and a Mexico faction fightin' it out maybe, and that could create some opportunities for larger gunfights and bigger rewards
Basically the western video game is an untapped gold mine and I wish more developers would realize it
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But from what I can recall of playing Call of Juarez, it's like punishment for doing something bad.
I saw 3:10 to Yuma a week back and I wanted to play a game like that soooo bad - the idea of building some sort of notoriety as a gunslinger or a peacekeeper just makes me all rubbery.
Edit: And obviously the best Western game ever is Mad Dog McCree.
I had managed to purge all memory of the FMV era from my mind. And you just brought it all rushing back.
Damn you Mad Dawg McCree!
I got Call of Juarez free with a video card ages back. It's a pretty kickass game. The environments are amazing - lifelike and detailed. I'm seriously considering replaying it, especially now that SupCom's finally off the hard drive.
Is it a sin that I actually enjoyed Billy's sections? They really allowed you to appreciate the detail put in to recreating the fantastic landscapes, and you don't often get to use a bow in an FPS. I just felt they were a nice change of pace from the run and gun sections of good ol' Reverend Ray.
It shocked me at how pretty it was (it's all the depth of field's fault), and how I'd heard absolutely nothing about it. I'm always down for a good Western, and so far, this hasn't disappointed.
In the second Billy level (just in case this thread makes people start playing it):
Aside from a few control issues, with that god damn whip, I am having a blast.
Why aren't there more Westerns being made for movies? Because it's perceived as a dead genre. Which is weird when you think about it. Games these days are trying to focus on dark and stark reality... So what's potentially more gritty and brown than a Western?
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The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford (what a title)
3:10 to Yuma
Appaloosa
Literally, a few. I know for a fact that I'm missing one, but it's also a horror movie. Apparently one of the better westerns in a long time mixed with a very good horror concept. Can't remember the name.
Someone should absolutely rip off The Quick and the Dead for a part of a game. That movie was so great, I could easily see that being a mission in a larger game.
It was awesome.
For little girly men who don' have their spurs yet, here's some examples of the awesomeness you can do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpkLbvJ1lVM
You can't tell me that doesn't make for quality entertainment.
I would play a Western MMO like that so hard.
Also, Gun's only real problem was that it was too short. That and the last level was a BITCH, at least for me.
The thing is, there have been a few westerns lately
3:10 to Yuma, Open Range, Seraphim Falls, Appaloosa
Admittedly Appaloosa, the best one of the lot, probably made like two dollars at the box office last I checked, but I still
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Edit: Ah, it's called Red Dead Redemption.
Red Dead Revolver had a chunk of the game based around that concept. It was awesome. I think that's still my favorite Western game.
Oh shit, a sequel to Red Dead Revolver? Instant purchase.
Also, one western game I enjoyed when I was younger was The Lone Ranger on the NES. I only rented it and haven't played it in a long time, so I have no idea if it would actually hold up. I think it was put out by Konami/Ultra.
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How far is their vision? Where can I hide and where can't I? Etc.
And now I'm back to playing the badass Preacher/Gunslinger with a heart of gold. And by gold, I mean revenge. I really am loving this so far -- maybe we should do a Let's Play?
Excellent question. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that the span of time the American Western occupied is only like... 20 or so years.
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Heck, I'd be up for it. There's some pretty funny stuff you can do just messing around.
Like when I was still getting used to the controls as Billy and stumbled over the first ridge in the game and broke my damn fool neck.
I just didn't like...something about it. Maybe the controls? Something just felt very off to me.
That doesn't stop WWII games.
Plus I think the Steampunk genre might take the top spot for under used setting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZi_FKsyPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRq8LwNS8oY
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/48416.html
I thought the voice of one of the brothers was awfully familiar. Then I realized that two of the McCalls are in the original Call of Juarez. Shoot me if that's obvious, but I'd never heard anything about that in any of the reviews.
I still can't work out why CoJ got a sequel commisioned. It was/is shoddy, clunky, poorly paced, and featured some of the most hysterically badly done setpieces I've ever played. Billy's missions are largely terrible, utterly linear and prone to the kind of trial-and-error nonsense I thought I'd seen the last of years ago. The horse-riding is godawful; when people complained about Argo in Shadow of the Colossus I remember thinking - hey, if you really, really want a horse that handles like a car, look up every idiot small-time Eastern European developer going. The ludicrous disconnect between your body from the waist up and the horse itself didn't help, either.
At the same time, when all hell did actually break loose, my God, the game suddenly had me forgetting about all the retarded technical shortcomings and reveling in pure apocalyptic blood and thunder. Grim, gritty, relentless - Jesus, Ray was one of the best badasses I've ever seen in any creative medium, and though Billy was little or no fun to play the actual story was really pretty well done; to have an avenging angel in a videogame realise he's actually been an ignorant tool was quite startling. The final level was one of the most balls-out commanding action set-pieces I've ever played, even if they did invalidate a lot of the good will it built up with one more idiot bit of quick-time gameplay straight afterwards.
I'm just rambling because that latest trailer really, really has me hoping Techland have actually fixed most or even all of what was wrong with the first game. Come on, boys! Let my casual xenophobia turn out to be completely unfounded! CoJ got to much higher heights than Gun - which comfortably embodied mediocrity for most of the way through - and if the prequel's as atmospheric as that trailer I'll be more than happy to slap down full price even if it's mostly just a mission pack.
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Anyway, I now have a PC beefy enough to play the DX10 version, and with all the Red Dead Redemption excitement I'm thinking of going back to this game. I don't have my copy any more, but I see that it's on Steam.
Eight Rooks, I too am shocked this game got a sequel. I'm not saying it was horrible, I'm just saying that I thought it was too obscure to become a franchise. Did this game sell a decent number of copies?
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Then a week or two ago I suddenly had the urge to shoot some six shooters, and hunted down the 1997 Outlaws which is just damn fun.
This led me to finally give Red Dead Revolver a play, and after I finish it I might go back and run through Call of Juarez again.
I'm really excited for the sequel, if only for the promise that it'll be all action all the time. Plus, it's a western. The only western game I haven't played is Dead Man's Hand.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-hd-call-of/48935
Seriously, this game looks good. You folks are always saying you want more western games, well, here you go. And it'll be out soon to boot.
And one of Ray's insults is PECKERHEAD! I'm mean, come on, how awesome is that?
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