As graphics become better...

NH03NH03 Registered User regular
edited April 2009 in Social Entropy++
Do we use less of our imagination, making the game less fun? Think about reading, something entirely based on our imagination. Compare this to the average video game of today, where graphics, physics, and complexity come together to create a game that the average Joe computer programmer can't make anymore. Isn't this backwards? Shouldn't we be using something that works instead of creating something that is completely different by way of upgrades?

Game developers wield game graphics like they are a feature, shouldn't they be an addition to the already awesome game they are making? Why add completely new graphics when you can use your imagination to fill in the blanks?

Back in the day you could make a popular computer game by yourself like writer can make a book. When did writing a book turn into a 4 year time investment and more manpower and money than opening up a department store?

By comparison, if you have ever modded or mapped for a game pre 1998 then you should know what I'm talking about. Today making a popular map for the game you want is more along the lines of crafting a fine tuned guitar compared to a ball of clay you meshed into a specific shape.

Are we buying picturebooks compared to the novels we used to buy?

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    uh

    think you walked into the wrong saloon feller

    g&t's that way

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    unless you playin' a text adventure, ain't nothing about a game in your imagination

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  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    there are still text adventures

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  • NH03NH03 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    unless you playin' a text adventure, ain't nothing about a game in your imagination

    Then can you please tell me why we want to see textures at higher resolutions?

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    wait, what the fuck

    your complaints are GRAPHICS ARE TOO GOOD and MODDING IS TOO EASY

    drink the bleach, luddite

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    because it's in our nature

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    NH03 wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    unless you playin' a text adventure, ain't nothing about a game in your imagination

    Then can you please tell me why we want to see textures at higher resolutions?

    what

    just

    fuck this is a dumb idea

    let's talk about something else

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    you and your fancy computermotrons

    I roll 20s, motherfucker

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    who is this fag?

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    let's talk about martial arts

    i started going to an escrima class

    it's pretty fun!

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    What the fuck is this

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    knob we have a fighting thread!!!!

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i have had the most rancid smelling farts today

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    NH03 wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    unless you playin' a text adventure, ain't nothing about a game in your imagination

    Then can you please tell me why we want to see textures at higher resolutions?

    because when we are presented with a defined presentation of an idea or concept we want it realised as well as possible.

    it would be like wanting a description of something in a book to have been written better.

    it is still describing the same thing, but the quality of presentation enhances the experience.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    knob we have a fighting thread!!!!

    i'm not talking about fighting in that thread

    that thread is like poison

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    let's talk about martial arts

    i started going to an escrima class

    it's pretty fun!

    I don't know anything about Escrima

    I took about 6-7 months of Shaolin Kenpo Karate, stopped when my parents got divorced

    I'd like to take some Muay Thai

    I was going to Thailand and was seriously considering going to a dojo and learning it from the source

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2009
    escrima sounds like a type of green you'd use in a salad

    try our spring salad with radicchio and escrima!

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  • SnowbeatSnowbeat i need something to kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    man, us gamers

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  • Run Run RunRun Run Run __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob, what is the best martial arts to defend yourself against three people at the same time?

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    unless you mean we got a good martial arts thread somewhere

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    GOD DAMN CASUALS WITH THEIR FUCKING GRAPHICS

    I SPIT UPON THEEEEEEE

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    knob we have a fighting thread!!!!

    i'm not talking about fighting in that thread

    that thread is like poison

    dont you want to learn how to punch

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  • redfenixredfenix Aka'd as rfix Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    potatoe wrote: »
    i have had the most rancid smelling farts today

    me too

    we can be fart pals

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  • potatoepotatoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    escrima sounds like a type of green you'd use in a salad

    try our spring salad with radicchio and escrima!

    too descriptive
    just call it a salad and let us use our imaginations

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    Knob, what is the best martial arts to defend yourself against three people at the same time?

    run run run

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  • NewtronNewtron Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    I just played Blast Chamber the other day, because I haven't played it in like 8 years.

    Game's fucking fun as hell, and should come onto XBL and steam

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob, what is the best martial arts to defend yourself against three people at the same time?

    your penis

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    they look better and cooler

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob, what is the best martial arts to defend yourself against three people at the same time?

    Baseball bat in the backseat of your truck fu.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    i'll be honest martial arts doesn't really blip on my radar

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    knob we have a fighting thread!!!!

    i'm not talking about fighting in that thread

    that thread is like poison

    dont you want to learn how to punch

    i ain't need to learn how to punch

    I GOT STICKS!

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    So there's this app in the itunes store called Race Wars SF.

    It's not what you think it is, but with a little imagination... it's still not what you want it to be.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    knob we have a fighting thread!!!!

    i'm not talking about fighting in that thread

    that thread is like poison

    dont you want to learn how to punch

    i ain't need to learn how to punch

    I GOT STICKS!

    well just to inform you thumb placement is very important

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Painkiller is a pretty good looking game, considering it came out in 04 or whatever

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Knob, what is the best martial arts to defend yourself against three people at the same time?

    Baseball bat in the backseat of your truck fu.

    Ok that's a lie. Never take anything into a fight that you wouldn't want ripped from your hands and used against you.

    Ahh, lessons learned.

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  • NH03NH03 Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    Here's an example, Half life 2 started using physics in its games because it used them as a gameplay device, which to a lesser extent, worked. Everyone wanted it now, even though it arguably wasn't that great.

    A game which also came out around that time named dues ex 2 didnt use physics and was automatically conned a bad game. Fast forward to 2008, there isn't a game around that doesnt use physics in one way or another because the game that had it first was popular.

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  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited April 2009
    No.

    There are legitimate reasons not to go for the most high-end graphics. This is not one of them.

    Though those reasons are mostly stylistic, with my distaste for graphics that try too hard to be realistic. Also there is the recent popularity of intentionally retro graphics.

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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2009
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    knob we have a fighting thread!!!!

    i'm not talking about fighting in that thread

    that thread is like poison

    dont you want to learn how to punch

    i ain't need to learn how to punch

    I GOT STICKS!

    well just to inform you thumb placement is very important

    that is a fact, jack! first things we learned were thumb placement and maintaining punyo

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  • vsovevsove ....also yes. Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    NH03 wrote: »
    Here's an example, Half life 2 started using physics in its games because it used them as a gameplay device, which to a lesser extent, worked. Everyone wanted it now, even though it arguably wasn't that great.

    A game which also came out around that time named dues ex 2 didnt use physics and was automatically conned a bad game. Fast forward to 2008, there isn't a game around that doesnt use physics in one way or another because the game that had it first was popular.

    I don't think you understand why people actually disliked Deus Ex 2.

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  • StationaryStationary Registered User regular
    edited April 2009
    no that's because Deus ex 2 was balls

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