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Gaming on a Low-End Machine
AkimboEGMr. FancypantsWears very fine pants indeedRegistered Userregular
My X58 motherboard has recently fried itself. Until I get a new one, I'm currently working on an old lappy.
It's a Compaq with a 1.4Ghz Pentium D and 1 Gig of RAM. The graphics unit is whatever Intel GPU comes with a 965 laptop board.
I'm looking for a way to fix my gaming thirst, and I obviously can't run anything Steamy on it. I went through my old games, and the Indie Games thread, but I'm looking for something a bit more substantial.
So, any recommendations for good games that can run on my machine? Hopefully something single-player that can suck me in for a week or so.
Give me a kiss to build a dream on; And my imagination will thrive upon that kiss; Sweetheart, I ask no more than this; A kiss to build a dream on
Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, Fallout 1 and 2, and Planescape: Torment are all staples of this kind of thread.
Fallout's available from GOG.com. It'd be worth checking there for other games as well, there's a lot of awesome older games that should run well on that hardware. Personally I'd recommend Jagged Alliance 2.
LucasArts adventure games if you've got them, although they don't tend to last long.
I've played Half-life 2 on a laptop with 1.5 Ghz pentium 4 and 504mb of ram.
The performance was mostly crap but it's doable.
Edit: it dropped to like, 1 fp3s during the finale, but it still performs alright most of the way through and still one of the best games I've ever played.
Hey, that's my laptop's graphics card! Intel GMA X3100, right?
General tips:
If a game has both DirectX 8 and DirectX 9 modes, you'll probably get better performance out of 9. It's counter-intuitive, but cards like Intel's X3000 have their rendering pipelines optimized for 9.
Low is your friend. If a game runs poorly, first turn all the settings off/down, then see how high you can get the resolution while maintaining ~30 FPS.
TweakGuides is essential if you want to try running any heavier games.
Yeah, this is obvious, but make sure you have the latest version of the Intel graphics drivers. Intel has improved them a ton over the years, and this can make a massive difference if you've never upgraded them.
Games!
Half Life 2, if everything but the resolution is turned to the lowest settings.
Unreal Tournament 2004
Guild Wars
Morrowind (Oblivion will also work, but you'd have to put it more effort to get it going at a decent FPS than you probably want)
I'll second King's Bounty, it's a really awesome game and more people need to try it. There's a solid demo for it, which should allow you to see how well it runs and whether you're interested.
I've got an Eee 901 that I play a bunch of games on, and it's lower-specced than what you're using.
I've managed to cram on it:
- All the old 2D Command and Conquer games (from before they jumped the shark with Generals)
- All the classic FPSes (everything from Wolfenstein to Duke3D to Unreal Tournament to Quake 3 Arena to System Shock 2 to Deus Ex)
- The old Fallout games
- Freespace 2
and a ton of other stuff.
Gaming didn't start with the Source Engine. There's tons of stuff to put on low-spec machines.
AkimboEGMr. FancypantsWears very fine pants indeedRegistered Userregular
edited May 2009
There's been some quality stuff listed already, but most of it isn't anything new. I'm not necessarily looking for something that came out recently, just something I haven't already played to death.
Suggestions like Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Deus Ex, etc'... though all great games, I've already played through them (several times). I'm looking for something fresh.
Melty Blood looks intriguing, though securing a copy could prove troublesome. Touhou isn't really my kind of thing. Worms is a great suggestion, I just can't seem to find my Armageddon CDs.
As for the Indie Games thread, it tends to focus more on, well, miniature games. I've probably had around four hundred deaths in Spelunky, and though it's awesome, I'm looking for something with more meat to it.
I think I've got Full Throttle lying around here somewhere. I'm tempted to find and install it, but if I remember correctly, last time I played through it only lasted a couple of hours.
The main issue is I've recently replayed through most of my better low-spec games. Aquaria, Cave Story, World of Goo, Puzzle Quest, and a few more.
What's the requirements on Mount & Blade? I remember trying out the earlier beta versions, and it seemed to have a nice thing going.
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Civilization, any of them should tide you over for a long time. if not, Homeworld 1 or 2 shoud run on that.
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Amikron DevaliaI didn't ask for this title.Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
The new Colonization Civ4 game is awesome. I highly recommend it.
Also worth trying (if you like city building) Sim City 4 and its rush hour expansion, quite enjoyable. But it really up to what kinds of games you like.
As for Mount and Blade, I don't know if it will run or not but its worth a try using the demo. I would however suggest limiting battle size and using no shadows or anything like that.
I'm sure it was mentioned in the Indie Games thread, but let me recommend Battle for Wesnoth in case you missed it.
It's free, but it's also very substantial. You could spend 100+ hours playing it if it tickles your fancy. It's a turn-based strategy game with RPG elements, quite similar to Fire Emblem.
The new Colonization Civ4 game is awesome. I highly recommend it.
Also worth trying (if you like city building) Sim City 4 and its rush hour expansion, quite enjoyable. But it really up to what kinds of games you like.
As for Mount and Blade, I don't know if it will run or not but its worth a try using the demo. I would however suggest limiting battle size and using no shadows or anything like that.
Simcity 4 I couldn't reccomend on a machine like that, buty 3000 or 2000 should work perfectly
I don't think your PC will be able to handle Mount and Blade, but try it anyway. And if you haven't played it already, might I suggest X-com/UFO: Enemy Unknown?
Hmm, pretty much every 2D RPG ever made including gems like Divine Divinity, Nox and Lands of Lore 3.
Pretty much every Quake 3 engine based game ever made (Call of Duty, Medal of Honor: AA, Star Trek: Elite Force 1&2, Heavy Metal: FAKK 2, American McGee's Alice etc.)
Pretty much every Quake 2 engine based game ever made (Anachronox (BRILLIANT RPG), Soldier Of Fortune 1&2, Kingpin).
Some early 3D RPGs like Wizardry 8, Might and Magic 6, 7, 8, 9 etc.
There are too many games to list here, really.
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Descendant XSkyrim is my god now.Outpost 31Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
Fate is a great diablo clone, as is its sequel. It's made by Wildtangent, but it's still great fun.
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I'm going to second Freespace 2. For today's standards, it still looks great, and you can't beat the storyline either, I love this game to death.
But you'll need a pad, or a numeric key pad.
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Amikron DevaliaI didn't ask for this title.Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
I've been playing a bit too much of Elona lately, runs pretty well on older machines last I had to do such things, and well, its hilarious.
edit: As far as Simcity 4, I was playing rush hour w/ quite a few mods on a 1.4ghz w/ 512 ram with onboard graphics, ran more than fine @ 800x600. With full "effects" I could see it getting quite a bit more laggy.
I'd like to point out a few things about some of these listed games:
Knights of the Old Republic has trouble with some laptop chipsets (effectively running at 0.25 frames per second and speeding and slowing rendering at will). I think this is mostly with ATi laptop chipsets, but others may have trouble.
Civilization 4 (and to a lesser extent 3) rely on a good processor to keep the game moving smoothly. You'll end up playing on smaller maps with fewer civs if you actually want to the AI to finish its turns in a minute or less. The problem won't get too bad until the later eras, but maybe you'll be so invested in the game at that point that you won't care.
SimCity 4 suffers from a similar problem as Civ 4. It's relatively CPU intensive - although paradoxically, it tends to work better on slightly older graphics cards (unless you fool around with the settings). You may not have much trouble with it, but it can be finicky. Similarly, SimCity 3000 has a few problems as well (I found it impossible to play with the disc in the drive since it would constantly freeze up every 20 seconds or so...which required a work around), but it still plays very well and works well on hardware once you've gotten around a few problems.
Your specifications seem like they should be able to run Half-Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source without much problem (my laptop only has 512mb of ram and it runs them well enough with medium-ish settings).
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AkimboEGMr. FancypantsWears very fine pants indeedRegistered Userregular
edited May 2009
I've played through some of the campaigns in an earlier build of Battle for Wesnoth. I'm really bad at these games, but I remember liking it a lot. Will download the latest version.
Stone Soup seems jazzy. Not a big fan of dungeon crawlers that hate the players with burning rage, but I'll check it out.
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Amikron DevaliaI didn't ask for this title.Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
I'll mention Elona again just because I just started a new Pianist and leveling up performance to where you dont die from rocks being thrown at you is worth playing the game in itself. Thats without breeding little girls, mutating from the etherwind, and protecting your slave farm from getting impregnated by aliens via that pesky well.
I'll mention Elona again just because I just started a new Pianist and leveling up performance to where you dont die from rocks being thrown at you is worth playing the game in itself. Thats without breeding little girls, mutating from the etherwind, and protecting your slave farm from getting impregnated by aliens via that pesky well.
Do the er...ladies of the evening still work in the middle of the street? That was a bit disconcerting when it was added in.
I'll mention Elona again just because I just started a new Pianist and leveling up performance to where you dont die from rocks being thrown at you is worth playing the game in itself. Thats without breeding little girls, mutating from the etherwind, and protecting your slave farm from getting impregnated by aliens via that pesky well.
Do the er...ladies of the evening still work in the middle of the street? That was a bit disconcerting when it was added in.
Not sure, haven't played in a few versions and right now I'm just hiding in my house practicing so I wont get pelted to death w/ rocks upon my first trip into town to play piano.
Knights of the Old Republic has trouble with some laptop chipsets (effectively running at 0.25 frames per second and speeding and slowing rendering at will). I think this is mostly with ATi laptop chipsets, but others may have trouble.
You had an ATi chipset based off the Xpress 200m. It's OpenGL performance was close to nonexistent. You can verify this by trying other OpenGL-based games such as Savage, or running any 3D game under Linux using ATi's official unified drivers. The OP's video card is superior to the Xpress 200m and it's successor, the Xpress X1200. Technically the Intel GMA X3100 isn't much more powerful, but it does run OpenGL stuff with the same performance as DirectX. Having tested the game on both chipsets, I can confirm that KOTOR is perfectly playable at ~30 FPS on his card.
SimCity 4 suffers from a similar problem as Civ 4. It's relatively CPU intensive - although paradoxically, it tends to work better on slightly older graphics cards (unless you fool around with the settings). You may not have much trouble with it, but it can be finicky. Similarly, SimCity 3000 has a few problems as well (I found it impossible to play with the disc in the drive since it would constantly freeze up every 20 seconds or so...which required a work around), but it still plays very well and works well on hardware once you've gotten around a few problems.
The SimCity 4 requirements list the "Nvidia TNT" as graphics hardware supported by the game. The OP's video card, though low end, is substantially more powerful.
Your specifications seem like they should be able to run Half-Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source without much problem (my laptop only has 512mb of ram and it runs them well enough with medium-ish settings).
Having an extra 512mb of ram can make a LOT of difference, performance-wise. In Guild Wars and Half-Life 2, boosting my ram eliminated a lot of stuttering.
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Fallout's available from GOG.com. It'd be worth checking there for other games as well, there's a lot of awesome older games that should run well on that hardware. Personally I'd recommend Jagged Alliance 2.
LucasArts adventure games if you've got them, although they don't tend to last long.
The performance was mostly crap but it's doable.
Edit: it dropped to like, 1 fp3s during the finale, but it still performs alright most of the way through and still one of the best games I've ever played.
Zmud is awesome.
Spelunky is also a good choice
General tips:
Games!
I've managed to cram on it:
- All the old 2D Command and Conquer games (from before they jumped the shark with Generals)
- All the classic FPSes (everything from Wolfenstein to Duke3D to Unreal Tournament to Quake 3 Arena to System Shock 2 to Deus Ex)
- The old Fallout games
- Freespace 2
and a ton of other stuff.
Gaming didn't start with the Source Engine. There's tons of stuff to put on low-spec machines.
Suggestions like Baldur's Gate, Fallout, Deus Ex, etc'... though all great games, I've already played through them (several times). I'm looking for something fresh.
Melty Blood looks intriguing, though securing a copy could prove troublesome. Touhou isn't really my kind of thing. Worms is a great suggestion, I just can't seem to find my Armageddon CDs.
As for the Indie Games thread, it tends to focus more on, well, miniature games. I've probably had around four hundred deaths in Spelunky, and though it's awesome, I'm looking for something with more meat to it.
I think I've got Full Throttle lying around here somewhere. I'm tempted to find and install it, but if I remember correctly, last time I played through it only lasted a couple of hours.
The main issue is I've recently replayed through most of my better low-spec games. Aquaria, Cave Story, World of Goo, Puzzle Quest, and a few more.
What's the requirements on Mount & Blade? I remember trying out the earlier beta versions, and it seemed to have a nice thing going.
Also worth trying (if you like city building) Sim City 4 and its rush hour expansion, quite enjoyable. But it really up to what kinds of games you like.
As for Mount and Blade, I don't know if it will run or not but its worth a try using the demo. I would however suggest limiting battle size and using no shadows or anything like that.
It's free, but it's also very substantial. You could spend 100+ hours playing it if it tickles your fancy. It's a turn-based strategy game with RPG elements, quite similar to Fire Emblem.
Winrar.
Simcity 4 I couldn't reccomend on a machine like that, buty 3000 or 2000 should work perfectly
Not a miniature game by any measure if we're talking about replayability and gameplay mechanics.
...unless you're talking about the filesize for your intended game or, for that matter, the amount of graphics.
It is singleplayer and will certainly suck you in, chew you up and spit you out repeatedly over the course of the week.
Pretty much every Quake 3 engine based game ever made (Call of Duty, Medal of Honor: AA, Star Trek: Elite Force 1&2, Heavy Metal: FAKK 2, American McGee's Alice etc.)
Pretty much every Quake 2 engine based game ever made (Anachronox (BRILLIANT RPG), Soldier Of Fortune 1&2, Kingpin).
Some early 3D RPGs like Wizardry 8, Might and Magic 6, 7, 8, 9 etc.
There are too many games to list here, really.
But you'll need a pad, or a numeric key pad.
edit: As far as Simcity 4, I was playing rush hour w/ quite a few mods on a 1.4ghz w/ 512 ram with onboard graphics, ran more than fine @ 800x600. With full "effects" I could see it getting quite a bit more laggy.
Knights of the Old Republic has trouble with some laptop chipsets (effectively running at 0.25 frames per second and speeding and slowing rendering at will). I think this is mostly with ATi laptop chipsets, but others may have trouble.
Civilization 4 (and to a lesser extent 3) rely on a good processor to keep the game moving smoothly. You'll end up playing on smaller maps with fewer civs if you actually want to the AI to finish its turns in a minute or less. The problem won't get too bad until the later eras, but maybe you'll be so invested in the game at that point that you won't care.
SimCity 4 suffers from a similar problem as Civ 4. It's relatively CPU intensive - although paradoxically, it tends to work better on slightly older graphics cards (unless you fool around with the settings). You may not have much trouble with it, but it can be finicky. Similarly, SimCity 3000 has a few problems as well (I found it impossible to play with the disc in the drive since it would constantly freeze up every 20 seconds or so...which required a work around), but it still plays very well and works well on hardware once you've gotten around a few problems.
Your specifications seem like they should be able to run Half-Life 2 and Counter-Strike: Source without much problem (my laptop only has 512mb of ram and it runs them well enough with medium-ish settings).
Stone Soup seems jazzy. Not a big fan of dungeon crawlers that hate the players with burning rage, but I'll check it out.
Do the er...ladies of the evening still work in the middle of the street? That was a bit disconcerting when it was added in.
Hah! I ALREADY have it installed! I didn't lose the game this time!
Go and play cave story.
Not sure, haven't played in a few versions and right now I'm just hiding in my house practicing so I wont get pelted to death w/ rocks upon my first trip into town to play piano.
I love you. GodWars? :winky:
The SimCity 4 requirements list the "Nvidia TNT" as graphics hardware supported by the game. The OP's video card, though low end, is substantially more powerful.
Having an extra 512mb of ram can make a LOT of difference, performance-wise. In Guild Wars and Half-Life 2, boosting my ram eliminated a lot of stuttering.