[DnD4e] - Mining Rites - OOC Thread

Rius

Today on true Invisible Castle stories;

After needing a pair of 4's and getting a 12 and a 3, I went to roll my 1d8+11 damage and accidentally rolled it twice. Both dice came up 1's, heh.

An odd decision to use an AP to move, but I wanted to move those 4 squares for my amulet to kick in, and my PP gives me a free basic attack when I spend an AP in beast form anyway.

Hermenegilde

Good rolls and CA make my day :P

hjparcins

Hermenigilde - you don't need to worry about rolling your area attack/damage against the spirit companion. Technically it is a conjuration, and so it is immune from all attacks unless specifically stated otherwise in the description.

The general consensus is that, as per PH2, they are only "[targetable] by melee or ranged attacks" directed at them. Close and area attacks are omitted. The reasoning I've heard is that otherwise, a shaman and his companion could be caught in the same area effect and the shaman could potentially be hit 2x by one close/burst attack, which would be pretty painful.

In summation, go nuts with area attacks if my bear is the only ally around.

Also, in my attempt to research the area attack issue, I found out this little tidbit in the official PH2 FAQ:

3. Does a shaman’s spirit companion provoke opportunity attacks?

The spirit companion is a conjuration, not a creature, so it doesn’t provoke opportunity attacks. Unless otherwise noted, a noncreature doesn’t provoke opportunity attacks.

That is the shit.

cytorak

Your bear needs a name, man. Ancient Bear Spirit seems a bit wordy.

Rius

The downside to conjurations is they don't count as allies for purposes of flanking. The only way I'll ever get combat advantage in melee is if my targets are dazed, prone, stunned, restrained, etc etc. FORTUNATELY I target squishy things like Reflex and Will, so all is good

Saurfang

I'll go ahead and nominate Grumzog for awesome points, some good rolls and cool abilities made for a delectable tableau of destruction on that turn.

Hermenegilde

I'm just imagining the mayhem that would really be

cytorak

Three...critical...skill...checks...IN A ROW!

IC needs to stop screwing with me.

Saurfang

I think that might actually warrant another awesome nomination.

Hayasa

I can see I'm definitely going to need to upgrade my later planned encounter, you guys are mincing this.

Rius

Never really seen a heavy ranged party at work before, it's pretty crazy.

hjparcins

This party is pretty fun so far. All kinds of crazy shit we can pull off with the right tactics.

Oh, and If anyone feels like blowing up a couple of ogres I grouped 'em up for you.

cytorak

I'm hesitating on my dailies, because I suspect the next encounter will be much tougher.

Plus, a lot of them do healing stuff, and I think Rius is the only one who's hurt right now.

BTW, Rius, my MW sheet is up to date, so you can dry your tears. :P

Hermenegilde

Yeah I'm saving my dailies too. I did use an action point, for awesomeness and because I thought my first attack had killed that warforged and then remembered the thps.

Hayasa

Just for future reference, when it comes to sliding around Large or bigger creatures, let's adopt the convention that the square that you list them as moved to (or from) is always the top left corner of them.

Incidentally, the slide to shift W2 from J12 to H10 encountered difficulties as Grumzog was already in H10, and the ogre wasn't in J12.

cytorak

Do those low Diplomacy rolls mean they are lying to us, or does it mean that they just don't know how to talk pretty?

Hayasa

It means they are bad at their desired intention of begging for mercy, and are purely for your consideration when deciding which one to kill, if any.

Hermenegilde

Hayasa wrote: »

Just for future reference, when it comes to sliding around Large or bigger creatures, let's adopt the convention that the square that you list them as moved to (or from) is always the top left corner of them.

Incidentally, the slide to shift W2 from J12 to H10 encountered difficulties as Grumzog was already in H10, and the ogre wasn't in J12.

Am not. I'm in C13 !

Ogres will crush me !!!!

Saurfang

Well nuts. Surrendering? Shall we try the appropriate Insight and History checks to see if that will inform our actions? I'm loath to let these guys go if all they're going to do is report back to the Reians.

cytorak

Intimidate might be good, too. However, that means we'd have to roll against their Will+10 to do that, assuming you're going against the bloodied one.

Saurfang

Good call! Hopefully I'm better at intimidating them than I am at guessing at their motives. Since that's more of an "active" check (i.e. it involves Agar actually talking) I'm not sure if I should wait for Sariela and Grumzog to make their move first. In any case, I've got to run to a job interview, back soon hopefully.

Rius

Whoop Whoop, rolled a 1 for my insight, hehe. Maybe a 17 is still enough; they are dumb ogres, after all.

hjparcins

Sorry Hayasa - wasn't sure which corner to use of the large monster, so I just defaulted to the corner with the W2 in it. I'll use the top left from now on.

As for Grumzog, I think he is in C13 after ending Spark Form.

Hayasa

Hmm, noted. I'll fix that on the next map update if one of you guys decides to lop someone's head off.

Hermenegilde

I'm thinking of it right now.
Lying backstabber.
I didn't live to lvl 13 by letting potential enemies walk away.

Saurfang

Hayasa wrote: »

Everyone except Agar:

Gape at my amazing, nay, supernatural insight!

Do you guys think we ought to just try and physically separate these two for interrogation, or separate the cunning one's head from his body?

Also Hayasa, should we be acting in initiative order for these social challenges? I probably should have checked on that before I posted; if we are you can disregard my intimidate attempt.

Hayasa

Look, I'm not too fussed, as my guys all go at the same time anyway. I was just sticking to it for the short term on the basis that I don't know you won't cut their heads off.

cytorak

Hmm...wasn't expecting the double-bluff. Shrewd move, Regdar. Shrewd move.

Group thoughts on how to proceed? I don't want to give this guy money.

Saurfang

Did our history check reveal anything untoward, Hayasa?

I'd like to spare innocents when possible but these guys aren't exactly sincere. Maybe we ought shoot one so the other will talk? Or maybe we could tell ol' Reggie we want the information first, to see if it's worth anything, and remind him that he's in no position to bargain.

Hayasa

Nah, no successes on that, it was a high target.

Saurfang

Nice speech, Merembo. I'm going to wait and see how the ogres respond. In this sort of situation, would you like us to provide some sort of spoilered indication that we are waiting to see how NPCs react, Hayasa?

Hayasa

Yeah, for sure

Hermenegilde

Am a bit confused, whose turn is it ?

cytorak

Rius' turn, I think.

Rius

I was waiting for something from the ogres, heh.

Who else is in favor of offing the older, more annoying ogre?

Hermenegilde

I'm in favor of offing both of them. They smell bad.

Hayasa

This is empirically accurate.

Saurfang

I too, am in favor of offing the older, more annoying ogre, and I concur that his stench is offensive.

Rius

Kill the old one! If you can, Grumzog, see if you can daze him so he provides CA; it's hard to believe that grabbing a target doesn't do so, heh.

Rius

Two things, hermenegilde,

I took a full new turn so you might as well also.

And we're probably trying to keep the younger, badly wounded Ogre alive so we can get some information out of him.