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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
I was expelled from 7th grade my first time around. Second time I just didn't go. They automatically moved me to 8th after that. They also moved me to another school which was away from my family. That didn't solve any problems though. I got into fights with the middle class kids regularly and the black kids who were from the same area but only a few blocks down. They had their reasons to dislike me. I got suspended from this school for beating up a couple kids in math class. They tried to jump me when the teacher wasn't in the room. They had no chance.
So I came back a couple weeks later and the harassment from the middle class kids got worse. I got jumped a couple times. Instead of two kids there was usually five or more. I decided that enough was enough. I couldn't get my people together and roll on these guys. So I had to take matters into my own hands. I came to school with a box cutter and waited until I could catch one of them alone. I my made point very clear to him and he in snitched me out to the administration and that brought in the police. I got expelled and did a weekend in juvie.
The next year I was forced into an alternative school. Which as you can tell is for people with no other options. It was actually a cool place. You worked at your own pace. Teachers were only there to keep and eye on you or help you with work if needed. You actually got smoke breaks during school. I shit you not they gave you a pass and you could go outside and smoke, They had ashtrays there and everything. If you were hungry they would let you walk to a restaurant and bring some food back. My first year there I did absolutely nothing. I was still technically in the 8th grade. I just slept all day and no one bothered me.
During the summer I went back to my rough and tumble life. I ended up doing 6 months split between a boot camp like juvenile jail and a drug rehab. When I got out I went back to school. This time I actually wanted to do good try to make something out of myself. I didn't want anything to do with the family business. So taking into consideration that I can work at my own pace. Which was a pace these people had never seen and was something they could hardly grasp.
In that one year I finished all of my 8th grade packets. I moved on to the 9th grade work and had that done in a short amount of time. I then finished the 10th grade work before the school year ended. I was stuck for around two months helping the school staff with various things and writing essays on each and every president in US history. I moved on to 11th grade the next year and by Feb I had received all necessary credits for graduation. Well except for half a work credit. I had to have 6 months worth of work in order to get it.
There were a several problems involved with that. I had moved out of the district thanks to some upper middle class areas and there large apt complexes that decided to accept Section 8. My principals and teachers knew that I was out of district and didn't bother me with it. I don't want to get into specifics but my dad came back into the picture and thoroughly ruined it. I missed a couple days of school and was covered by the staff. There were problems with that. As you can tell from my past behavior I was not a well liked person in this city and my family was most hated by everyone involved with this town. So a truant officer decided to pay a visit to the address used for my registration only to find my very honest grandmother. She said that I didn't live there and let them know that I lived in the suburbs now.
I was kicked out of school faster than you can say damn. I enrolled in the district I was in only to find out the the 21 credits I did have were gone and I would have to start over in the 9th grade. Now my poor ass wasn't going to sit through 4 years of schooling again. Especially considering I would be almost 20 by the end of it. So I stayed out and decided to go to work full time. I've been doing that ever since. It's been good for the most part and I can't complain. I just regret fucking everything up and not going to college like normal kids. It's never too late though. Sooner or later I will take some classes. I did get my GED later on down the road.
My favorite thing from going to that school was being told by several teachers and the principal that I needed to slow down. They were in fact told by the main High School that is their lord and master to do that. They said that I made their students look bad. Considering who and where I was. Keep in mind that the core work was the same. I was told I had a 4.0 gpa but they never got too into that stuff.
That is too long and I wouldn't read it.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited May 2009
College is basically an expensive day care or summer camp.
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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
It's incredibly helpful. In high school I took Creative Writing, Creative Non-Fiction, Poetry, Fiction, Fiction II, Creative Non-Fiction II, Print and Online Resources (Where I was introduced to page layout and dealing with publishers) and about three classes revolving around interpreting literature and constructing expository arguments.
It really makes college classes substantially easier. And I would generally assert that formal training has done wonders to improve my skills as a non-fiction writer.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Meh. The first two years of college are just high school with more books and less supervision. Nothing matters until you start coursework for your major.
Depends on the school, actually.
My school doesn't have any general ed for 2 years bullshit.
First year you get thrown into the deep end
Yeah, I'd like to know what school this is.
But I guess it does matter on what you take.
A lot of the arts programs are pretty chill for the first couple years I hear
Meh. The first two years of college are just high school with more books and less supervision. Nothing matters until you start coursework for your major.
Depends on the school, actually.
My school doesn't have any general ed for 2 years bullshit.
First year you get thrown into the deep end
Yeah, I'd like to know what school this is.
But I guess it does matter on what you take.
A lot of the arts programs are pretty chill for the first couple years I hear
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
I went to a tech school, it's two years straight with the only breaks being at basically chirstmas, but there's no homework really, and barely any general ed stuff, it's all stuff like SOLDER THE SHIT OUT OF THIS and WHY IS THIS BROKEN AND HOW DO YOU FIX IT
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
Meh. The first two years of college are just high school with more books and less supervision. Nothing matters until you start coursework for your major.
Depends on the school, actually.
My school doesn't have any general ed for 2 years bullshit.
First year you get thrown into the deep end
Yeah, I'd like to know what school this is.
But I guess it does matter on what you take.
A lot of the arts programs are pretty chill for the first couple years I hear
is it bad when most of the people you talked with in highschool are now snorting heroin?
Only if you're doing it with them.
man i would never do that. I had a friend who did, though, and he said it was the worst kind of high he ever had, and when he finally came down he still wanted to do more.
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Snowbeati need somethingto kick this thing's ass over the lineRegistered Userregular
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
I thought part of it was he was having a hard time writing a "traditional" fantasy story so he tried something else and MAGIC
Hm, It's possible I misinterpreted it, but from what I understand his original intention was a sort of snarky and sarcastic response to the assignment.
Found the quote!
When I finally got tired of arguing with her and decided to write a novel as if I was some kind of formulaic, genre writing drone, just to prove to her how awful it would be, I wrote the first book of the Dresden Files.
The first year of college and the last year of high school have an absurd amount of content in common, but I lay the blame for that with the colleges rather than the high schools.
College once you get past GEs is awesome if you like what you're doing (and I do)
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
It's incredibly helpful. In high school I took Creative Writing, Creative Non-Fiction, Poetry, Fiction, Fiction II, Creative Non-Fiction II, Print and Online Resources (Where I was introduced to page layout and dealing with publishers) and about three classes revolving around interpreting literature and constructing expository arguments.
It really makes college classes substantially easier. And I would generally assert that formal training has done wonders to improve my skills as a non-fiction writer.
What do you do with your English Degree Fandy? I want to pursue an English degree, but I'm afraid I won't be able to do jacksquat with it.
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What spring does with the cherry trees.
The textbook rental program at ASU. I pay a small fee and I get either a brand new one or a once used one to use. And that fee covers every book I need that year. Gonna save a ton of money with that.
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ZoelI suppose... I'd put it onRegistered Userregular
edited May 2009
wow that's pretty sweet
how high is a small fee
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A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
Going to a governor's school and getting more advanced training in writing was the best possible preface to an English major I could have possibly received. It's just such a boon going into rhetoric, creative writing, and research writing with all the skills, concepts, and techniques already thoroughly drilled into your head.
I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
It's incredibly helpful. In high school I took Creative Writing, Creative Non-Fiction, Poetry, Fiction, Fiction II, Creative Non-Fiction II, Print and Online Resources (Where I was introduced to page layout and dealing with publishers) and about three classes revolving around interpreting literature and constructing expository arguments.
It really makes college classes substantially easier. And I would generally assert that formal training has done wonders to improve my skills as a non-fiction writer.
What do you do with your English Degree Fandy? I want to pursue an English degree, but I'm afraid I won't be able to do jacksquat with it.
Nothing yet. Hopefully not jack-shit!
I'm about halfway done with being a sophomore, in terms of credits.
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AntimatterDevo Was RightGates of SteelRegistered Userregular
Unfortunately due to the size of my high school, I wasn't able to take many AP classes, and IB classes weren't even offered.
Instead I cruised through with a 95% average (we didn't have your fancy letter grades), failed to develop good study habits and almost got kicked out of university my first year until I finally smartened up.
I wish I'd learned study habits in high school!
Ahem.
Fucking highschool taught me life was easy, and if you got drunk the night before an important exam and still showed up, you can pull off a mid 90's mark.
University taught me life is a bitch that's super hard, and that if you don't spend a good amount of time studying and actually attending classes and actively participate in your learning.
You're fucked.
I already graduated from university too.
I hate you.
I'm the same as vsove, although to be fair my degree from university is entirely average, and in a subject I'm not working in
But I'm going to get a second degree in the fall, and mean to try harder this time
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I wish I'd been given more of that sort of training. I've never really been formally instructed in creative writing (outside of the odd class in elementary and high school, that is). Mostly I just picked it up through being a voracious reader and partially just natural ability. I think I'd be a much better writer, however, if I'd ever taken a course. In fact, there's a thought - maybe I'll take an evening course or two. At the very least, I'll get some practice in.
huuuuuuuuuuge faggots
I was expelled from 7th grade my first time around. Second time I just didn't go. They automatically moved me to 8th after that. They also moved me to another school which was away from my family. That didn't solve any problems though. I got into fights with the middle class kids regularly and the black kids who were from the same area but only a few blocks down. They had their reasons to dislike me. I got suspended from this school for beating up a couple kids in math class. They tried to jump me when the teacher wasn't in the room. They had no chance.
So I came back a couple weeks later and the harassment from the middle class kids got worse. I got jumped a couple times. Instead of two kids there was usually five or more. I decided that enough was enough. I couldn't get my people together and roll on these guys. So I had to take matters into my own hands. I came to school with a box cutter and waited until I could catch one of them alone. I my made point very clear to him and he in snitched me out to the administration and that brought in the police. I got expelled and did a weekend in juvie.
The next year I was forced into an alternative school. Which as you can tell is for people with no other options. It was actually a cool place. You worked at your own pace. Teachers were only there to keep and eye on you or help you with work if needed. You actually got smoke breaks during school. I shit you not they gave you a pass and you could go outside and smoke, They had ashtrays there and everything. If you were hungry they would let you walk to a restaurant and bring some food back. My first year there I did absolutely nothing. I was still technically in the 8th grade. I just slept all day and no one bothered me.
During the summer I went back to my rough and tumble life. I ended up doing 6 months split between a boot camp like juvenile jail and a drug rehab. When I got out I went back to school. This time I actually wanted to do good try to make something out of myself. I didn't want anything to do with the family business. So taking into consideration that I can work at my own pace. Which was a pace these people had never seen and was something they could hardly grasp.
In that one year I finished all of my 8th grade packets. I moved on to the 9th grade work and had that done in a short amount of time. I then finished the 10th grade work before the school year ended. I was stuck for around two months helping the school staff with various things and writing essays on each and every president in US history. I moved on to 11th grade the next year and by Feb I had received all necessary credits for graduation. Well except for half a work credit. I had to have 6 months worth of work in order to get it.
There were a several problems involved with that. I had moved out of the district thanks to some upper middle class areas and there large apt complexes that decided to accept Section 8. My principals and teachers knew that I was out of district and didn't bother me with it. I don't want to get into specifics but my dad came back into the picture and thoroughly ruined it. I missed a couple days of school and was covered by the staff. There were problems with that. As you can tell from my past behavior I was not a well liked person in this city and my family was most hated by everyone involved with this town. So a truant officer decided to pay a visit to the address used for my registration only to find my very honest grandmother. She said that I didn't live there and let them know that I lived in the suburbs now.
I was kicked out of school faster than you can say damn. I enrolled in the district I was in only to find out the the 21 credits I did have were gone and I would have to start over in the 9th grade. Now my poor ass wasn't going to sit through 4 years of schooling again. Especially considering I would be almost 20 by the end of it. So I stayed out and decided to go to work full time. I've been doing that ever since. It's been good for the most part and I can't complain. I just regret fucking everything up and not going to college like normal kids. It's never too late though. Sooner or later I will take some classes. I did get my GED later on down the road.
My favorite thing from going to that school was being told by several teachers and the principal that I needed to slow down. They were in fact told by the main High School that is their lord and master to do that. They said that I made their students look bad. Considering who and where I was. Keep in mind that the core work was the same. I was told I had a 4.0 gpa but they never got too into that stuff.
That is too long and I wouldn't read it.
It's incredibly helpful. In high school I took Creative Writing, Creative Non-Fiction, Poetry, Fiction, Fiction II, Creative Non-Fiction II, Print and Online Resources (Where I was introduced to page layout and dealing with publishers) and about three classes revolving around interpreting literature and constructing expository arguments.
It really makes college classes substantially easier. And I would generally assert that formal training has done wonders to improve my skills as a non-fiction writer.
Digipen is practically a graduate school, given how specialized it is.
I read that first post there and just about died laughing
That's how the dude who wrote the Dresden Files series started out. While taking a writing course he decided to write something absolutely by the lesson plan, clichés and all and whoops it's become a commercial success. . .of course he managed to write two more books in the time it took for a publisher to accept his first, soooo. Write well and write often!
I thought part of it was he was having a hard time writing a "traditional" fantasy story so he tried something else and MAGIC
Par for the course in my life.
Only if you're doing it with them.
Same.
Some schools ARE joke schools, but making generalized statements about how ALL colleges work is pretty stupid.
Yeah seriously. That's one drug that you just can't fuck with. That and meth of course. It will ruin your life, pretty much guaranteed.
-Oscar Wilde
man i would never do that. I had a friend who did, though, and he said it was the worst kind of high he ever had, and when he finally came down he still wanted to do more.
Hm, It's possible I misinterpreted it, but from what I understand his original intention was a sort of snarky and sarcastic response to the assignment.
Found the quote!
The first year of college and the last year of high school have an absurd amount of content in common, but I lay the blame for that with the colleges rather than the high schools.
College once you get past GEs is awesome if you like what you're doing (and I do)
High school is not a waste of time at all
I hear that rubbing semen on your face retards the aging process.
That's convenient.
What do you do with your English Degree Fandy? I want to pursue an English degree, but I'm afraid I won't be able to do jacksquat with it.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
But you know what is really awesome?
The textbook rental program at ASU. I pay a small fee and I get either a brand new one or a once used one to use. And that fee covers every book I need that year. Gonna save a ton of money with that.
how high is a small fee
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
We'll see if junior year kicks my ass
this thread is reminding me that I graduated from high school ten years ago next month
well technically 1 week for final exam shit but
Now I'm a week graudated from college and I have no idea what to look foreward to.
Nothing yet. Hopefully not jack-shit!
I'm about halfway done with being a sophomore, in terms of credits.
did you have any trouble with Algebra II? I'm just not as good in that subject compared to Geometry.
But didn't we already have a thread about this?
E: Antimatter, I took Alg II last year with Geometry
It was okay
i had... unconventional high school years
If you have a chance to take a statistics class, I'd recommend taking that along with another math class, though
But I'm going to get a second degree in the fall, and mean to try harder this time
I think it's supposed to be Trigonometry. I think I'll take statistics senior year, 'cause I don't really have many other things to pick.
THIS
All through my childhood my parents were just 'knuckle down and get through university'
So I did, and it was pretty good advice because I hated high school and only began to really enjoy life once I went to college
But then I graduated and I was stuck; no idea what to do or where to go
Now, finally, five years after I graduated from university, I actually have a career I want to go into
Good luck! It's not uncommon and you're not alone. My sister's stuck in the same place as you right now.