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TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Social Entropy++
China blocks websites ahead of Tiananmen anniversary
by Chris Lefkow – 1 hr 40 mins ago
WASHINGTON (AFP) – China is blocking access to Microsoft's new search engine, Bing, and its Hotmail email service, the company said ahead of the 20th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown.

"Microsoft's Bing.com, Live.com and Hotmail.com are among several Internet services that have been blocked for customers in China," Microsoft director of public affairs Kevin Kutz said in a statement received by AFP.

"We are reaching out to the government to understand this decision and find a way to move forward," Kutz said.

"Microsoft is committed to helping advance the free flow of information, and is committed to encouraging transparency, due process and rule of law when it comes to Internet governance," he added.

Microsoft did not say when China began blocking the sites, but Reporters Without Borders (RSF) said it had been notified by Chinese Web users that access to the websites began being blocked inside China on Tuesday.

"Reporters Without Borders is outraged by the blockage of a dozen websites such as Twitter, YouTube, Bing, Flickr, Opera, Live, Wordpress and Blogger in China," the media rights group said in a statement.

"The Chinese government stops at nothing to silence what happened 20 years ago in Tiananmen Square," it said. "By blocking access to a dozen websites used daily by millions of Chinese citizens, the authorities have opted for censorship at any price rather than accept a debate about this event."

Asked to comment on the Chinese moves, a US State Department spokesman said there would be a more expansive US response on Wednesday, but underscored that US policy "supports freedom of expression."

"With regard to any activities that the Chinese government is undertaking in connection with the anniversary... we will have more to say (Wednesday) through a statement on the anniversary," spokesman Robert Wood told reporters.

"The issue of human rights is a very important element of our relationship with China," he added.

There was no immediate comment from Yahoo!, which owns photo-sharing site Flickr, or Twitter to emails from AFP asking about the reported blocking of their websites by China.

Google-owned YouTube has been blocked inside China since March.

Rights group Freedom House, which is funded by the US government and private groups, condemned the Chinese government?s blocking of the websites.

"China's decision to block these sites today represents the latest salvo in a relentless campaign to erase the past," executive director Jennifer Windsor said in a statement.

"China is blocking sites like Twitter and Flickr because they provide a means for people to circumvent government control and mobilize dissent."

China's foreign correspondents' association on Tuesday condemned moves by authorities in Beijing to block reporting in the run-up to the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown.

The Foreign Correspondents' Club of China (FCCC) said it had received at least three reports of authorities blocking reporting at Tiananmen Square and intimidating journalists or their sources.

The country's communist leadership sent soldiers to forcibly clear the square and surrounding areas on the night of June 3-4, 1989, ending seven weeks of protests calling for political reforms.

Hundreds, possibly thousands, were killed in the crackdown, which remains a taboo subject in China.

It's as if millions of twatters cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

I'm having a hard time imagining political movements getting started with twitter, honestly. The character limit is no good for rousing speeches.

And do we really need to stop people from going to youtube and watching videos of baby ducks because of something that happened twenty years ago?

Does this happen every year? Just once a year the goverment goes "FUCKING SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!"?

Alternate topic: Social networking sites are for gays.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I doubt all of youtube is blocked, typically they just block a few key videos.

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I, for one, am completely shocked.

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  • Wrench N RocketsWrench N Rockets Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm not.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] new member
    edited June 2009
    The user and all related content has been deleted.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    They should remake Brazil and call it China.

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository Bawstan New EnglandRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I've pretty much stopped caring what China does. Every bit of news that seems to come out is mind-boogling retarded. From lead in dog food to shut down the interwebs...fucking China man. I suppose this mean the Communists have won, but whatever.

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    They should remake Brazil and call it China.

    Strikingly apt

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    The user and all related content has been deleted.

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    China has blocked me

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    The user and all related content has been deleted.

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository Bawstan New EnglandRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I've pretty much stopped caring what China does. I suppose this mean the Communists have won, but whatever.
    in relation to china you realise how funny this is right

    I mean stop caring about civil rights abuses. Which I suppose means if people stop caring about these things and give up the government can run amok and has "won" and since the government is officially "communist" etc etc

    I'm not in the mood to argue semantical bullshit

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    silly communist cat you should not oppose communism

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository Bawstan New EnglandRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I support Commiaownism

    get it right damn you

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    no.

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository Bawstan New EnglandRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    bow before robcham

    i mean wait

    shit

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Apparently China's history has been so heavily censored for their youth, that a lot of student-age people don't even know about the Massacre.

    Maybe Viv can elaborate?

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    is this a cruel strike at viv becuase she is chinese or because she blocks things strictly as a result of her corpulence

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    murder me

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited June 2009

    I don't know how to feel about the existence of this website.

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  • FalloutFallout GIRL'S DAY WAS PRETTY GOOD WHILE THEY LASTEDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    china sux

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think it is all perfectly reasonable and just for a government to isolate its people and to prevent them from investigating incidents where the government may or may not have killed its own people who were practicing their right to have an opinion. I think we would all just be better served if we ignored this incident and many others for the Greater Good!

    May our great leaders and the party continue to shine upon us for one hundred years!

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Burma's government are also a bunch of assholes.

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm pretty sure there are a few other things certain countries don't like to talk about... like a raping of some sorts i don't remember exactly what is was... oh god there is a man and he is taking me awa

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Fallout wrote: »
    is this a cruel strike at viv becuase she is chinese or because she blocks things strictly as a result of her corpulence

    light, traffic, and queues in mcdonalds are just some of the things viv blocks

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  • Bendery It Like BeckhamBendery It Like Beckham Hopeless Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I doubt viv will read any of this... you know... firewalled.

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  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2009
    considering she lives in australia...

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Butler wrote: »
    Burma's government are also a bunch of assholes.
    I read that as "Bush's government." To which I thought, "Yeah, I guess, but what does Burma have to do with him?"

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    download cap

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    considering she lives in australia...

    you can take the chinese out of china, but

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Look, I'm sure the Chinese government has a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they would cover up the death of possibly thousands of their own people at the hands of the military.

    For all you know those people could have been dead before they arrived at Tianmen Square.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    man the military was just shooting guns, if the protesters got in the way that's their own fault

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Apparently China's history has been so heavily censored for their youth, that a lot of student-age people don't even know about the Massacre.

    Maybe Viv can elaborate?

    younger generations do not know the details of the massacre

    they know something happened, but they do not know the how or the why

    it sucks and I do not like the fact that they refuse to own up to that part of their history

    and funny enough, I find Suppository's post on the first page mind-bogglingly retarded

    you know which one

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I doubt viv will read any of this... you know... firewalled.

    don't be stupid

    even if I were still in China it's not like they'd block a low-traffic website from outside the country for it

    more than that, this is a website that Chinese people don't care about

    the government cares what their own people are most likely to see, not what everyone ELSE sees

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Look, I'm sure the Chinese government has a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they would cover up the death of possibly thousands of their own people at the hands of the military.

    For all you know those people could have been dead before they arrived at Tianmen Square.

    stop being an idiot

    it's not like they're proud of it or anything

    I know some of the reasons why they do it and I don't agree with them, but you're just acting like a cock

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    us Chinese gamers

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Look, I'm sure the Chinese government has a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they would cover up the death of possibly thousands of their own people at the hands of the military.

    For all you know those people could have been dead before they arrived at Tianmen Square.

    stop being an idiot

    it's not like they're proud of it or anything

    I know some of the reasons why they do it and I don't agree with them, but you're just acting like a cock

    somebody stepped on a raw nerve

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Nuzak wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Look, I'm sure the Chinese government has a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they would cover up the death of possibly thousands of their own people at the hands of the military.

    For all you know those people could have been dead before they arrived at Tianmen Square.

    stop being an idiot

    it's not like they're proud of it or anything

    I know some of the reasons why they do it and I don't agree with them, but you're just acting like a cock

    somebody stepped on a raw nerve
    well it's more PI always does this when this sort of topic pops up, and it's exasperating

    I don't know why it bugs me but it always does

    probably because I know he's more intelligent than that

    ugh whatever I honestly get too angry and frustrated to keep talking about China on this forum, I didn't even spot the thread until Blake mentioned it

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Look, I'm sure the Chinese government has a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they would cover up the death of possibly thousands of their own people at the hands of the military.

    For all you know those people could have been dead before they arrived at Tianmen Square.

    stop being an idiot

    it's not like they're proud of it or anything

    I know some of the reasons why they do it and I don't agree with them, but you're just acting like a cock
    Viv I am disappointed that you do not agree with our glorious leadership's policy on suppressing important information. I for one believe it to be a wise and just proposition!

    If need be my cadre will send you literature on the error of your ways. Also, we have a number of education camps that can do roughly the same thing and at the same time teach you the value of working outdoors!

    I for one say we suppress more information! More information just gets in the way of basking in the glory of the glorious leadership.

    Glory!

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited June 2009
    oh shit

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Nuzak wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Look, I'm sure the Chinese government has a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why they would cover up the death of possibly thousands of their own people at the hands of the military.

    For all you know those people could have been dead before they arrived at Tianmen Square.

    stop being an idiot

    it's not like they're proud of it or anything

    I know some of the reasons why they do it and I don't agree with them, but you're just acting like a cock

    somebody stepped on a raw nerve
    PI always does this when this sort of topic pops up

    I don't know why it bugs me but it always does

    probably because I know he's more intelligent than that

    ugh whatever I honestly get too angry and frustrated to keep talking about China on this forum, I didn't even spot the thread until Blake mentioned it

    i suspect, and this is only a suspicion, that he may have made that post light-heartedly

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