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NASA - I'm tellin' you it's a sabatoge.

CantidoCantido Registered User regular
edited June 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5002825.html

NASA is investigating the apparent sabotage of electronic equipment bound for the international space station aboard the shuttle Endeavour, officials said Thursday.

The damage involves the cutting of wires in a device meant to record and transmit to Mission Control several measurements of stresses to the space station structure, according to NASA.

The equipment is not considered essential to astronaut safety.

William Gerstenmaier, the agency's associate administrator for space operations, said the contractor company responsible for the device reported the damage to the wires of a test version about 10 days ago.

Similar damage later was found inside the version of the device that had been sent to the Florida shuttleport for loading aboard Endeavour. It had not been placed aboard the spacecraft.

Gerstenmaier declined to name the company involved.

The Los Angeles Times reported that the sabotage appeared to have occurred in early June, while the devices were still at Invocon Inc., an electronics firm and Boeing Co. subcontractor in Conroe.

"We don't know if it's one or more people,'' said Kevin Champaigne, an executive at the company, which has about 30 employees.

The damaged device should be repaired in time to fly aboard the shuttle, which is scheduled for liftoff Aug. 7.

NASA officials said they do not know who damaged the equipment or what the motive for sabotage might be.

The disclosure of the sabotage investigation came on an already troubling day for NASA, as it faced questions about a report that shuttle astronauts in at least two instances were launched into space despite warnings that they posed a safety risk by being intoxicated.

Gerstenmaier said he wanted to dispel any suspicion that union machinists who are on strike against the NASA's shuttle prime contractors, United Space Alliance, were involved in the damage to the device.

The strike by the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers has been under way since mid-June.

The company responsible for the recording device also supplies an external sensor system used aboard the shuttle to detect any impact on the spacecraft's wings from debris.

Gerstenmaier offered assurances that other equipment had not been damaged intentionally.

"This was fairly recent," he said. "We surveyed essentially all of the hardware that was provided by this particular contractor. We have reviewed the perfomance and made sure the hardware is performing exactly the way it is supposed to."

Educator astronaut
Over an 11- to 14-day mission, Endeavour's crew of seven astronauts will expand the international space station with new components and replace a failed steering gyroscope.

Endeavour's crew includes Barbara Morgan, NASA's second educator astronaut.

Morgan, 55, served as the backup to New Hampshire schoolteacher Christa McAuliffe, who perished with six others in the 1986 explosion of Challenger.

After returning to her classroom in McCall, Idaho, Morgan joined NASA in 1998 to train as a professional astronaut.

Her duties on the flight will include robot arm operations and cargo transfers.


I hear a lot of stories from this thread that although NASA has been important to this country, they've been doing really shitty work lately, and therefore must DIE. So I thought this was pretty interesting. Now I really believe their scientists are idiots. Now he's going to lose his job, and go to jail!

I'm telling you It's a saaaaaaaaaaaaabooooooooooooootaaaaaaaaage :whistle:
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Can anyone explain why NASA should burn as well? There seems to be support for that here.

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  • RussellRussell Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I'm more interested that they apparently sent drunk astronauts into space.

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  • StoverStover Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    To be fair, I'm not sure there's any other way to go into space.

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  • RussellRussell Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    All with plastic cup full of cheap beer in your hand, shouting WOOOOO!!! as the rockets fire up.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Cantido wrote: »
    I hear a lot of stories from this thread that although NASA has been important to this country, they've been doing really shitty work lately, and therefore must DIE. So I thought this was pretty interesting. Now I really believe their scientists are idiots. Now he's going to lose his job, and go to jail!

    Can anyone explain why NASA should burn as well? There seems to be support for that here.
    Having your budget massively slashed, and an administration that doesn't really care, tends to make the caliber of person hired, and the drive of people already employed, minimal. And seriously, "damage occurred in early June", "strike began in June"....


    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    I think a lot of this has to do with the flawed logic of using shuttles.

    Shuttles ware out, break, become obsolete fast, explode in a big ball of fire, etc. etc. etc.

    Why not switch to something practical like Capsules? Cheap, don't break down and you don't need to keep them maintained, or, you know, keep outsourcing to the Russians.

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    It was obviously Jake Busey.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Points to 'off' Points to 'on'Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I think a lot of this has to do with the flawed logic of using shuttles.

    Shuttles ware out, break, become obsolete fast, explode in a big ball of fire, etc. etc. etc.

    Why not switch to something practical like Capsules? Cheap, don't break down and you don't need to keep them maintained, or, you know, keep outsourcing to the Russians.
    The plan for the space program was different when the shuttle was being developed. It was designed as a ferry vehicle, intended to take astronauts and equipment to and from planned orbiting space stations. The orbiting space stations were supposed to be gradually built larger, and turned into orbiting launch platforms for manned missions to the moon, Mars etc. Pretty much as soon as it was put into service it was rendered obsolete though, as budgets were cut and the space station plans put on hold indefinitely or canceled outright. Instead of throwing away a few decades of work, and billions of dollars in hardware, it instead got repurposed as a satellite launch vehicle, and self-contained science lab. And considering the shuttle program has been active for almost 30 years now, I wouldn't say they "wear" out or become obsolete fast at all. Also, the software that powers the space shuttle is considered the most perfect code in existence - http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html

    The second part of your comment is just stupid, however, NASA is currently developing the Orion capsule, intended for missions to the moon. Basically a larger, more advanced version of the Apollo capsules. There was also a craft that got prototyped a decade ago or so that was intended to be vertical landing capable, but on the first test flight one of the feet failed to deploy, and it toppled over.

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    I think a lot of this has to do with the flawed logic of using shuttles.

    Shuttles ware out, break, become obsolete fast, explode in a big ball of fire, etc. etc. etc.

    Why not switch to something practical like Capsules? Cheap, don't break down and you don't need to keep them maintained, or, you know, keep outsourcing to the Russians.

    You do know that they're already doing that, right?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28spacecraft%29

    Edit: Beaten. Damn you, matthas <3

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    [QUOTE=Cantido;10560378I hear a lot of stories from this thread that although NASA has been important to this country, they've been doing really shitty work lately, and therefore must DIE. So I thought this was pretty interesting. Now I really believe their scientists are idiots. Now he's going to lose his job, and go to jail!

    Can anyone explain why NASA should burn as well? There seems to be support for that here.
    Having your budget massively slashed, and an administration that doesn't really care, tends to make the caliber of person hired, and the drive of people already employed, minimal. And seriously, "damage occurred in early June", "strike began in June"....


    It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.[/QUOTE]

    You can strike in response to being laid off?

    I thought this country had a shortage of mathematicians.

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  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    Russell wrote: »
    All with plastic cup full of cheap beer in your hand, shouting WOOOOO!!! as the rockets fire up.

    I think it would be more along the lines of 'holy shit there's a barely controlled explosion going on underneath my ass right now, I'm going to fucking die'

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    As a fan of paranoid theories, I believe this sabatoge can be linked to ancient egyptian mysticism!

    It's just crazy enough to be right. 8-)

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  • Fatty McBeardoFatty McBeardo Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This story is from 2007, isn't it? Or has it happened again?

    nope, 2007 says the byline.

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  • evilintentevilintent Registered User regular
    edited June 2009
    This story is from 2007, isn't it? Or has it happened again?

    nope, 2007 says the byline.

    So.. we're supposed to debate whether it is or isn't sabotage for about 18 pages, then someone comes along and posts the results of NASA's investigation?

    ....

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2009
    I believe Sam just got owned.


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