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Recommend me a New Graphics Card for Fallout 3?

Tour86RockerTour86Rocker Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Games and Technology
So, I'm playing Fallout 3 with the graphics dialed way down so that it'll even run and The Pitt looks TERRIBLE and barely runs. My computer was constructed in the winter of 2006, not intended as a gaming rig, but has been used a lot for gaming!

I have some Best Buy store credit and am mulling a graphics card upgrade. I'm pretty sure what I have is a BFG GeForce 7600 GT OC (one of those nVidia types, see here) and I'm trying to figure out what would be a step up from this.

Do I need to fear brands like Galaxy and PNY? I see some good deals on GeForce 8400 and 9400 cards. Is 512 DDR2 memory a step down from what I have right now, which is 256 GDDR3? I'm guessing not, but am not sure.

I'm strongly considering this PNY - NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT

I haven't used this desktop in months...I foolishly removed my CPU's fan while dusting with CO2 and bought a replacement. I'm not sure if Fallout 3 is "acting" the same as it used to.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You'll probably get more responses in the tech subforum or help and advice.

    Anyways, you need to list what else you have for parts and what your budget is.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I personally will never buy another PNY after several failed cards and a lesser replacement.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The 9400 and the 8400 are pieces of crap.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    For video cards, I never recommend buying from Best Buy unless there's a sale on a higher end card. Same goes for RAM.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    1GB GDDR2 is a step down from 256mb GDDR3.

    Make the 9500GT/HD3850 your absolute minimum starting point.

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    I remember Futureshop selling a 8800GTS (G80) 640mb for $600 and a 8800GT (G92) for $160 on the same shelf. Hilarious.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Yeah, that chart. Your 7600GT? It's about four inches off the bottom of it.

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  • SatsumomoSatsumomo Rated PG! Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I still remember when my 7600GT cost me $170.

    My current HD4850? $150. Crazy.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    :( My video card is on the bottom of the list.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Don't go for a budget video card. Ever. They're barely a step above on-board video cards. If you're not looking to spend much, look around for something in the Geforce 8800 series. They're cheap (~$100 now), and actually quite powerful. I run Fallout 3 at 1680x1050 on High with some minor AA. I also run Crysis at similar stats. Both usually maintain 30 FPS. It's not OMG fantastic (and depends on the speed of your processor and type of RAM), but it certainly lets you play PC games at bare minimum console level quality.

    As a general rule, buying the high-end card from a one or two generation old series is a good idea if you don't want to spend a ton. They're still very powerful cards, they just lack some newer features.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I can play Fallout 3 on high pretty well with my 9600GT. My 8500GT did medium pretty well, and both of these cards are somewhat cheap. Now, with that 9400, you'd be lucky to run Morrowind at a decent frame rate, much less FO3.

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  • Tour86RockerTour86Rocker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    For video cards, I never recommend buying from Best Buy unless there's a sale on a higher end card. Same goes for RAM.

    Yeah, but my Best Buy store credit is the only thing making this happen...I'm hoping to pay around $100 to get me something that will make Fallout 3 run better.

    Here are some other things about my system. I have a Core 2 Duo, 4 gb of DDR2 RAM, and I run two monitors. In hindsight, disabling one of the monitors probably would have made my game run a little smoother, but in my defense, I had tried this before and it wasn't by much.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You're not going to get much for $100 from BestBuy, unless you play the pricematch-haggle game.

    Also the fact that you're coming from a 7600GT makes me think that your computer doesn't have the necessary power supply connectors or 12V output to support any of the really shitfuckawesome cards.

    My suggestion - Sell or trade the $100 credit to a friend for cash, and use the money to buy a better card from Newegg.

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  • Tour86RockerTour86Rocker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Among the companies that use nVidia chips, which company is considered the most legit? My BFG has been satisfactory in the past, and I see one guy here complaining about PNY

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Among the companies that use nVidia chips, which company is considered the most legit? My BFG has been satisfactory in the past, and I see one guy here complaining about PNY

    EVGA and XFX make really really good cards, and have just as great return policies

    My 8500GT was from EVGA and the fan died and the card overheated and died, I sent it back, and a week later I get a shiny new 9600GT for free

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Among the companies that use nVidia chips, which company is considered the most legit? My BFG has been satisfactory in the past, and I see one guy here complaining about PNY

    I'd personally recommend EVGA. They make some excellent cards and guarantee their products. One thing you may want to try is just going to newegg.com and browsing through some cards in your price-range. Read lots of user reviews. Might give you some ideas about which companies are more reputable. I haven't looked at video cards in a year or so, so I am a bit out of the loop as far as manufacturers go. :)

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  • Tour86RockerTour86Rocker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    You're not going to get much for $100 from BestBuy, unless you play the pricematch-haggle game.
    That's a good point
    Also the fact that you're coming from a 7600GT makes me think that your computer doesn't have the necessary power supply connectors or 12V output to support any of the really shitfuckawesome cards.
    Actually my enclosure is an Antec TX640B, which appears to have what it calls an "ATX12V v2.0 power supply".
    My suggestion - Sell or trade the $100 credit to a friend for cash...
    Currently working on that, actually!

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  • Tour86RockerTour86Rocker Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    elliotw2 wrote: »
    I can play Fallout 3 on high pretty well with my 9600GT. My 8500GT did medium pretty well, and both of these cards are somewhat cheap. Now, with that 9400, you'd be lucky to run Morrowind at a decent frame rate, much less FO3.


    I didn't realize that nVidia's numbering scheme was so confusing...

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    elliotw2 wrote: »
    I can play Fallout 3 on high pretty well with my 9600GT. My 8500GT did medium pretty well, and both of these cards are somewhat cheap. Now, with that 9400, you'd be lucky to run Morrowind at a decent frame rate, much less FO3.


    I didn't realize that nVidia's numbering scheme was so confusing...

    The first number is the generation of cards it comes from. The second number tells you if it's a budget or higher card. X400 is crap. X600 is midrange. X800 is high end. That's as I understand it anyway.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Actually my enclosure is an Antec TX640B, which appears to have what it calls an "ATX12V v2.0 power supply".

    Single PCIe power plug is enough to run up to the 9800GT or HD4850 level, which is now an "average" card rather than "shitfuckawesome" which require either 2x6-pin or 1x8-pin+1x6-pin. But either of those (9800GT/HD4850) will be a huge leap from a 7600GT.
    Currently working on that, actually!

    Awesomesauce.

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  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    :( My video card is on the bottom of the list.

    Mine too

    and it runs left 4 dead, everything on full, perfectly.

    It's not like fallout 3 is the best looking game either.

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  • psychotixpsychotix __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2009
    Among the companies that use nVidia chips, which company is considered the most legit? My BFG has been satisfactory in the past, and I see one guy here complaining about PNY

    PNY is the only company that makes the quadro (pro grade) nvidia cards. They have a monopoly and thus, they can do whatever the hell they want. Jerkwads.

    For retail cards, xfx, bfg, and evga (mostly evga) are the best. Best warranty, best rma, ect. Since the cards are all pretty much stock parts (at times OC'd) support and warranty are what counts.

    The thing is, don't blame PNY for that. nvidia has batches of cards that just fucking break, end of story. It happened with the 7900gt, and it's happening with g92 (so any 8800gt, any 9800, and any 250gts).

    none of these companies actually make the cards. They just slap a cooler and a sticker on it and bundle it. certain series of cards are more prone to failure, but not certain brands.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Quadro is just such a waste of cash. There's only a tiny percent of people that will find use for the card that would justify the cost...

    But yeah the 200 series are dirt cheap for the performance and have all the latest features. I'd go with that.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited July 2009
    With my PNY, this is stone age now, but I bought a Ti-4600 (was about $400, I believe, top of the line at the time). 2 weeks later it failed. I RMA'd it and got a replacement about a month later. About 8 months later, that second card failed. I RMA'd that one, and they sent me an FX5600 (which had recently come out), which was weaker than the Ti-4600.

    That card held up for a couple of years I think, until I decided to upgrade. I said I wouldn't buy PNY again, but my instant gratification took over and I bought one at Best Buy, a 6600 something or other. Took it home and it was fucked right out of the box. It kept overheating and artifacting, even though heat sink and fan were attached and working. I returned it and bought an MSI 6800 Ultra from Newegg, which I'm still running 4 years later.

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  • DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    PNY's drivers are also crap, so even if the hardware worked, it would still get flickering and artifacts.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Never buy a video card at Best Buy.

    Generally ATI cards are the best value for this generation but a good deal on 9800GTX+/GTS250 might fit what you need as well. Your 400W PSU should handle a 4850 which is a nice card and a huge upgrade for you.

    If you buy online you could get a quite nice 4850 for about $100. In the recent past they were seen for $85 or lower but that seems to have stopped.

    Something like this should be your baseline for value.

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