Why is Halo so critically acclaimed and popular?

ceforgaceforga Registered User regular
edited July 2009 in Games and Technology
I don't understand the hype behind this series nor the praise. I don't understand why critics find so special about it. Halo is a painfully average shooter, has mediocre gameplay, undeserved marketing hype from the media, generic and is absolutely nothing special.

Halo is completely generic and unispired, all you do in the game is shoot this and that and the repetitive level design gets on your nerves. The story is filled with every sci-fi cliche and it's so badly written, Master Chief is a bland character with no personality and is iconic for some reason. The multiplayer in these games are decent but it's inferior to Battlefield , Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty 4, and Tribes. Hell, the game barely did anything new or innovative. Halo is crap compared to most PC shooters.

Halo doesn't deserve the 10's and 9's its gotten from "professional" reviewers as the game seems more like a 5 or a 6, if they were going to give Halo a positive score it oughta be a 7 or a 8 but not a 9 and 10. Haze is just as unispired and generic as Halo but it recieved low scores and isn't as popular. Halo isn't bad but its not great either.

I think the reason its popular is because a lot of people and Halo fans haven't played any FPS before Halo. Considering most of its fanbase consists of frat boys and moronic college students.

They're even better console shooters than Halo on the N64 like Turok, Goldeneye, and Perfect Dark. Halo belongs in the line of other average shooters like Resistance 1/2. Killzone 2, BioShock, Far Cry, and Crysis. Halo isn't a bad game but its not in the same league as Call of Duty, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, Unreal Tournament, Tribes, Goldeneye 007, Perfect Dark, Doom, No One Lives Forever, and most of all Half-Life. Halo is probably the most overrated game in existence and it's more overrated than GTAIV and Final Fantasy VII combined.

Whats so special about Halo?

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  • ZiggymonZiggymon Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Halo is a really well made game. Very easy for new people to pick up and play, has quite a broad storyline if you want to get into the mythos, and has one of the most robust online going for any game.

    And I don't really like Halo games but I know there is a reason they are popular

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    A lot of people agree with you, a lot of people disagree with you. Maybe more would agree than disagree around here. Regardless it is merely an opinion to which people are entitled.

    What games do you enjoy that are critically acclaimed and popular? I'm sure it would be easy for any of us to question them in a similar way.

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  • GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    So what's the deal with (airline) opinions?

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  • MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Because it's very enjoyable, the controls and movement feel really good.

    I also love the music and while the plot is full of holes (unless you read wikis and the books), Cortana, JOHNSON, even the Chief are all characters I care for.

    That said, this thread is asinine.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Because it's awesome.

    So.

    Fucking.

    Awesome.


    But not quite as good as Perfect Dark. But still awesome!

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Nice one, Grav. My thoughts exactly.

    Replace "Halo" with anything that's popular and/or critically acclaimed. This is a tired, tired topic. And it being a platform exclusive certainly doesn't help things either. (Not saying that ceforga is console-war fanboy, but certainly there are many that are going to stake their opinion pro/con that are ...)

    So, drop the thread?

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    This thread is going to end poorly.

    Other than that, Halo is a well made, simple shooter that is quick to learn, features both excellent COOP and MP, has attractive graphics, and a medley of extras that no other (or very few) shooters have. For example, the MP replay feature is unmatched, I would love to have that in other games.

    I may not be a big fan of Halo, but I certainly understand its merits.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    One of these days I want to get all the games (which I've never played) all the books (which I've never read) and anthing else (comics, ilovebees) and try to go through them in seqential order.

    I was kinda hoping to do it after the franchise stopped (via bungie wanting to do something else) but it looks like that's never gonna happen :S

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  • TanolenTanolen Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    The game is 8 years old, maybe it's time to drop it.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Damn this game is so generic.

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    It's not like it can be modified or anything by the end user.

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    Surely everyone just walks around in a semi crouch starting into ironsights.

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    Every battle is the same.

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    Nothing interesting ever happens.

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  • TreTre Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Seriously?

    I'm embarrassed for you for making this post.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I'm still trying to find out why people consider Portal--all 40 minutes of it--the second coming of Jesus. I mean, it's a good game. But it's not the neverending blowjob I still hear people making it out to be. It's a puzzle game that uses the same puzzle element over and over again. And has a lame ripoff of SHODAN at the end.

    Some things are not meant to be understood.

    (P.S.: The Halo games are probably still my favorite console shooter series. So, yeah, I'm one of those sheep too. Elite fist bumping? Hilarious.)

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Go easy on him Fyre, it's his first time.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2009
    Sometimes you have to use a sniper rifle to breathe in the sea of trolling.

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    But you can take their chopping utensils!

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    We should hold a breakdancing competition between Halo and every other FPS? Who would win?

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  • Lezard ValethLezard Valeth Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    My two cents about:
    After all those eight years, I played Halo 1 first time (I didn`t had a decent pc until yesterday). My opinion: fun. Not the second coming of robot christ like everybody thinks and it feels very "generic" , but fun.

    This thread is going to degenerate into a shitstorm in no time.

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  • ceforgaceforga Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    My two cents about:
    After all those eight years, I played Halo 1 first time (I didn`t had a decent pc until yesterday). My opinion: fun. Not the second coming of robot christ like everybody thinks and it feels very "generic" , but fun.

    This thread is going to degenerate into a shitstorm in no time.
    The game is kinda fun but it doesn't deserve all the praise and hype it gets.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I agree with the OP in a way. I can see why people play halo, its multiplayer really is fantastic and well supported. But it wasn't and still isn't an innovative shooter really. The only thing it really brought to the table is that it was the first truly popular cosnole shooter that was capable of playing online from console to console. It's popularity really stems from that i think. After the original Halo (which i thought was excellent, back when it first came out.) they have failed to innovate, and have stuck to their same formula, and honestly i lost complete interest in the series after i played the second one. The third one just had nothing new to it and definately did not disserve the praise it got. It wasn't BAD it just wasn't anything i hadn't seen, done, and already gotten bored of.

    One problem is that a lot of younger gamers tend to fall into the marketing hype, and so they get all into the game, ignoring other games that they may enjoy more. Ther eare far better and more innovative shooters out there, as you mentioned Call of Duty series is definately one of them, but that series is also increadibly hyped up very popular as well, though i think it disserves it more than Halo. I don't enjoy Halo anymore for various reasons, but i've always been of the opinion that the game is horrendously overhyped, and that many of the "reviews" are written by uber fanboys or are getting kick backs from MS for giving perfect 10's to a game that stopped innovating a long time ago.

    Its a decent game, but it's very, very basic for a shooter compared to a lot of other offerings, especially on the PC.

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  • ceforgaceforga Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Damn this game is so generic.

    pullup.jpg

    It's not like it can be modified or anything by the end user.

    buried_towardsblue.jpg

    Surely everyone just walks around in a semi crouch starting into ironsights.

    nw_twoangry.jpg

    Every battle is the same.

    kneel.jpg

    Nothing interesting ever happens.

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    The multiplayer is good but you gotta admit the single-players are very average.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
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    ahahahahahaa

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I'm still trying to find out why people consider Portal--all 40 minutes of it--the second coming of Jesus.

    Probably because it didn't wear out it's welcome in the few hours one plays it.

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  • LorkLork Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    I was going to make a post with a picture of clippy with a bunch of jokes about being new to the internet.

    But then I realized that was way too much effort to go through for this thread.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ceforga wrote: »
    The multiplayer is good but you gotta admit the single-players are very average.

    in comparison to what? your favourite game?

    bad trolling, man

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  • Burden of ProofBurden of Proof You three boys picked a beautiful hill to die on. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    because console gamers didn't have a huge selection of good FPS games in 2001?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

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  • bpfriebpfrie Registered User new member
    edited July 2009
    Everything you've said is mostly true but is nothing that hasn't been said before. The primary reason for Halo's success is that it was marketed very well at an audience that had relatively low expectations for what makes a good shooter. This, combined with the fact that it was practically the only good game on the first Xbox for MONTHS, making it a "must buy" game by default, led to its current day popularity and hype. Of course, with the lack of gameplay innovation since the original Halo by Bungie, I think people, even console FPS gamers, are a bit less bedazzled by the franchise these days.

    edit: Let this thread die soon, no good can possibly come from it. Halo lovers/apologists and Halo haters are pretty dead set in their opinions.

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  • ceforgaceforga Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    because console gamers didn't have a huge selection of good FPS games in 2001?
    But there are like more than 99 PC shooters that are better than Halo.

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  • ceforgaceforga Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    bpfrie wrote: »
    Everything you've said is mostly true but is nothing that hasn't been said before. The primary reason for Halo's success is that it was marketed very well at an audience that had relatively low expectations for what makes a good shooter. This, combined with the fact that it was practically the only good game on the first Xbox for MONTHS, making it a "must buy" game by default, led to its current day popularity and hype. Of course, with the lack of gameplay innovation since the original Halo by Bungie, I think people, even console FPS gamers, are a bit less bedazzled by the franchise these days.
    You are so right!

    Thank you!

    There weren't any good games at the Xbox launch so that's what made Halo popular.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ceforga wrote: »
    FyreWulff wrote: »
    Damn this game is so generic.

    pullup.jpg

    It's not like it can be modified or anything by the end user.

    buried_towardsblue.jpg

    Surely everyone just walks around in a semi crouch starting into ironsights.

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    Every battle is the same.

    kneel.jpg

    Nothing interesting ever happens.

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    The multiplayer is good but you gotta admit the single-players are very average.

    Um, what?

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    FyreWulff wrote: »
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    Did... did I just witness a hate crime?

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

    That was a dumb post.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ceforga wrote: »
    because console gamers didn't have a huge selection of good FPS games in 2001?
    But there are like more than 99 PC shooters that are better than Halo.

    You know...I know this may surprise people...I know it is going to be incredibly and utterly shocking and will probably rock you to your very core.

    But not everyone cares to or likes playing shooters on the PC. And even then there may be some people who just simply to honest enjoy the game. I know, I know...I'll give you time to pick your jaw up off the floor.

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  • TanolenTanolen Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

    Fuck casual gamers, am I right.

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  • Kris_xKKris_xK Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    ceforga wrote: »
    bpfrie wrote: »
    Everything you've said is mostly true but is nothing that hasn't been said before. The primary reason for Halo's success is that it was marketed very well at an audience that had relatively low expectations for what makes a good shooter. This, combined with the fact that it was practically the only good game on the first Xbox for MONTHS, making it a "must buy" game by default, led to its current day popularity and hype. Of course, with the lack of gameplay innovation since the original Halo by Bungie, I think people, even console FPS gamers, are a bit less bedazzled by the franchise these days.
    You are so right!

    Thank you!

    There weren't any good games at the Xbox launch so that's what made Halo popular.

    .. Did you make an alt to agree with yourself? This isnt the WoW forums.

    EDIT: I got the creation dates mixed up, but whatever.

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Tanolen wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

    Fuck casual gamers, am I right.

    Thats what Bejweled is for. :winky:

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Renzo wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

    That was a dumb post.

    ...It's funny how he's disagreeing with me and ignoring what I said at the same time.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Kris_xK wrote: »
    ceforga wrote: »
    bpfrie wrote: »
    Everything you've said is mostly true but is nothing that hasn't been said before. The primary reason for Halo's success is that it was marketed very well at an audience that had relatively low expectations for what makes a good shooter. This, combined with the fact that it was practically the only good game on the first Xbox for MONTHS, making it a "must buy" game by default, led to its current day popularity and hype. Of course, with the lack of gameplay innovation since the original Halo by Bungie, I think people, even console FPS gamers, are a bit less bedazzled by the franchise these days.
    You are so right!

    Thank you!

    There weren't any good games at the Xbox launch so that's what made Halo popular.

    .. Did you make an alt to agree with yourself? This isnt the WoW forums.

    hahahaahahah

    oh god

    seriously guys, don't feed the troll

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

    Unfortunately, if you don't want to play "grenade wars", "grenade wars in narrow corridors" or "watch me pull a grenade the second you kill me", that throws out COD as well.

    The Rainbow Six games--pretty much all of them, to varying degrees--blow COD out of the water when it comes 'REAL tactical shooter(s)', by your definition. There's no "kill me so I can automatically throw a grenade at you" option, for example.

    tl;dr--no FPS is perfect.

    EDIT: Also--"no good games at the Xbox launch". Watch, I can do it too:

    There were no good games at the PS2 launch. That's the only reason why FFX was popular. Compared to other RPGs, it sucks

    There were no good games at the Gamecube launch. That's the only reason why Super Smash Brothers Melee was popular. Compared to other fighting games, it's arcadey, shallow, and sucks.

    Good grief....

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  • EliminationElimination Registered User regular
    edited July 2009
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Renzo wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Well, Halo is a lot more fun to dick around in with friends than CoD though. So it has that.

    Maybe for you, but not for many others. I love tactical shooters like CoD, where the person doesnt have to rush to the sniper rifle in the map befor everyone else or what have you, rush to so and so vehicle. I mean Halo is fun online to mess around, but if i want to play a REAL tactical shooter, and not in a shooty childrens playground full of bright aliens and pink armour and silly tinny weapons i play CoD.

    That was a dumb post.

    ...It's funny how he's disagreeing with me and ignoring what I said at the same time.

    Thats because your comment had nothing to do with what was being discussed saying "that was dumb" is far more "dumb" than anything i posted there. If you aren't even going to bother giving insight to a conversation, why bother even posting in it?

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