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New Kitten Coming Home This Weekend

DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
edited December 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
So my parents informed me yesterday that they will be paying the pet deposit at my apartment and giving me a new kitten for Christmas this year. This will be my first time raising a pet on my own, so I'm looking for any advice from other kitten/cat owners.

My list of things to go buy at the pet store currently consists of:
*Kitten accessible litter box (not too tall)
*Kitty-friendly food
*Scratching Post (no declawing here)
*Litter
*Some kind of treats
*Random assortment of kitty toys
*A book, but undecided on which one

Any glaring omissions from this lineup or any general advice on raising a new kitten?

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    A couple questions. Are you the only one in the apartment? How big is your apartment? How much time is spent in your apartment?
    I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I hate it when people get animals and are rarely home to spend time with them, it's particularily unpleasant for animals when it's a small apartment as they have nowhere to roam. It's like prison for them and psychological conditions can arise and lead to problems such as spraying and scratching things they shouldn't simply because they have no where else. It's very difficult(impossible) to train those things out of cats unless they can go outside frequently. If it's a female cat it's often less of a problem as they don't spray and seem to deal with confinement somewhat better than males. It's still not pleasant though.

    *Edit* I've had 4 cats, just so you know I'm not talking out my ass. I have a friend whose had 2 cats that developed social and eating disorders due to his family giving them no attention except to scold them. Not to say you'll be mean to your kitten, but little to no attention, intentional or due to lack of time, will have ill effects on the kitten.

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  • SpackleSpackle Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    List looks great, imo. Honestly, I'd try to get another kitten, even better if you can score from the same litter. It's a little more of the hassle but really better for the kittens. They'll have a pal they can play, and a companion to curl up with.

    You still have to pay attention to them, especially at that young age. Another cat is not a substitute but it's of much benefit to the little runt. I've got two cats from different litters and they are great together. I would never split them up.

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  • DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    A couple questions. Are you the only one in the apartment? How big is your apartment? How much time is spent in your apartment?
    I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but I hate it when people get animals and are rarely home to spend time with them, it's particularily unpleasant for animals when it's a small apartment as they have nowhere to roam. It's like prison for them and psychological conditions can arise and lead to problems such as spraying and scratching things they shouldn't simply because they have no where else. It's very difficult(impossible) to train those things out of cats unless they can go outside frequently. If it's a female cat it's often less of a problem as they don't spray and seem to deal with confinement somewhat better than males. It's still not pleasant though.

    *Edit* I've had 4 cats, just so you know I'm not talking out my ass. I have a friend whose had 2 cats that developed social and eating disorders due to his family giving them no attention except to scold them. Not to say you'll be mean to your kitten, but little to no attention, intentional or due to lack of time, will have ill effects on the kitten.

    I'm at work from 8-4, and generally home after that, save one night a week when I play RPGs with friends until later in the evening (8:30 usually) so those nights I'd be home less, but I'm certainly home a lot of the time. My apartment isn't huge, but it's a decent size (670 sqare feet) with nice big windows for daytime cat-gazing.

    I understand the concern, I've known a fair share of people who have gotten animals because they are cute or whatever and the ignored them after a week, but I certainly don't think that will be the case with me. The only reason I've held off on getting a cat before now is because I have one friend who will, in no uncertain terms, not be able to come over anymore, but she only visits like once a month as is.

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  • CephalicCarnageCephalicCarnage Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    list looks ok. when they use the bathroom pick them up and run them to the litter box, so they learn that they go there. you should try to get another one so it can play especially in an apartment. if not, get lots of toys and play with it alot, wich should be easy, i could play with my cats for hours! lolz. ive had hmmmmmmm at least 30 cats in my lifetime. you need to play with it, feed it nice food, with some variety, they will get bored of the same crap and wont appreiciate you as much as if you change it up. when its sleepin, let it sleep on u, i dunno, just do w/e to grow that bond with it and everything will be great! i love cats, and all my cats always love me cuz im teh pwnzor.

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  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I have three cats in my apartment. It's not huge, but when you see how much they run around it seems like it's large to them. When my girlfriend and I aren't there they like to lie around. As soon as we come home they want attention and want to play and then they'll do their own thing again until it's time for bed. I'd recommend getting another one because it's easy to socialize them when they're young and also I'm one of those people that thinks that two means less lonely.

    Also, you might want to get some cat nip. I love watching my cats run around when they're all cracked out.

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  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Fellhand wrote:
    I have three cats in my apartment. It's not huge, but when you see how much they run around it seems like it's large to them. When my girlfriend and I aren't there they like to lie around. As soon as we come home they want attention and want to play and then they'll do their own thing again until it's time for bed. I'd recommend getting another one because it's easy to socialize them when they're young and also I'm one of those people that thinks that two means less lonely.

    Also, you might want to get some cat nip. I love watching my cats run around when they're all cracked out.

    My vet said to lay off the catnip until my cat was around a year old. His explanation had something to do with dependency?!?

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    After the vet, get yourself a camera and photoshop. Do you know what kind of cat it is?

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  • HallucinogenHallucinogen Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Just curious, is the kitten from a pet store? If you can, try to get your parents to visit the pound or spca with you and pick out a kitten from there. That is, if there are any kittens, usually it's mostly cats.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    FYI, the cat will probably hide behind something for a good long while the first day or so you have it while it gets used to being in a new place

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Slungsolow wrote:
    Fellhand wrote:
    I have three cats in my apartment. It's not huge, but when you see how much they run around it seems like it's large to them. When my girlfriend and I aren't there they like to lie around. As soon as we come home they want attention and want to play and then they'll do their own thing again until it's time for bed. I'd recommend getting another one because it's easy to socialize them when they're young and also I'm one of those people that thinks that two means less lonely.

    Also, you might want to get some cat nip. I love watching my cats run around when they're all cracked out.

    My vet said to lay off the catnip until my cat was around a year old. His explanation had something to do with dependency?!?

    Some cats aren't affected by catnip until they're around a year old, and some are never affected by it, but I've never heard of a dependency problem...

    Anyways, the list looks good, and definitely get two kittens if you can. I have two cats and they keep themselves quite entertained during the day when I'm busy. :D

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  • SlungsolowSlungsolow Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2006
    Just curious, is the kitten from a pet store? If you can, try to get your parents to visit the pound or spca with you and pick out a kitten from there. That is, if there are any kittens, usually it's mostly cats.

    Stores like Petsmart and Petco offer their adoptions as a service through animal hospitality groups like the SPCA. They aren't "selling" the cats. You're adopting them and providing a home. They aren't breeder cats.

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  • SpackleSpackle Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Xaquin44 wrote:
    FYI, the cat will probably hide behind something for a good long while the first day or so you have it while it gets used to being in a new place

    The exact opposite happened when I got my kitten (she was about 3 months actually). Out and about, getting into things, knocking stuff over and just being your average kitty.

    Now the cat I got with her was just about a year and she prefered to hide.

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Want to know my cats favorite toy? A paper ball. it can keep them amused for hours on end.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Not to be mean but I've always been of the idea that cats are a two person pet. When I'm living by myself. My cat drives me up the fricking wall. She's hit 20 and is well into the old and senile scheme of things. She'll wander round and get lost in the house, constantly meowing. First thing you hear when you wake up is her meowing to be fed. That is of course if she doesn't wake you up in the middle of the night as she wanders up and down the house looking for someone then will sit next to your bed and meow because she can't jump up anymore.

    Now don't get me wrong I love my cat, she's awesome, but if I had to go two months straight of just her and me, I would not be able to do it. Sharing the responsibility between two people is so much easier it's insane.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    A good thing that I've learned about cats in general is when bringing them into a new living place, it's a good idea to keep them in one room (bathroom or office) where they can get settled and maybe even learn how to use their litterbox. It's less of a shock for a cat to gradually become used to a new place than to be thrown into a situation where they have no idea what's going on.

    If you're around, like in the evening, you can gradually open more and more rooms to it while bonding with it and getting to know it.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Spackle wrote:
    List looks great, imo. Honestly, I'd try to get another kitten, even better if you can score from the same litter. It's a little more of the hassle but really better for the kittens. They'll have a pal they can play, and a companion to curl up with.

    You still have to pay attention to them, especially at that young age. Another cat is not a substitute but it's of much benefit to the little runt. I've got two cats from different litters and they are great together. I would never split them up.

    I want to emphasize this. You know what you can handle, and if you can only handle one cat, then I don't want you taking on extra, but I think you should consider the possibility of a second kitten.

    Also, you are bound by honor and duty to post pictures when the weekend comes. <3

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  • DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Mahnmut wrote:
    Spackle wrote:
    List looks great, imo. Honestly, I'd try to get another kitten, even better if you can score from the same litter. It's a little more of the hassle but really better for the kittens. They'll have a pal they can play, and a companion to curl up with.

    You still have to pay attention to them, especially at that young age. Another cat is not a substitute but it's of much benefit to the little runt. I've got two cats from different litters and they are great together. I would never split them up.

    I want to emphasize this. You know what you can handle, and if you can only handle one cat, then I don't want you taking on extra, but I think you should consider the possibility of a second kitten.

    Also, you are bound by honor and duty to post pictures when the weekend comes. <3

    I would look into getting two, but since this is a gift I don't want to sound like an asshole to my parents by asking for a second one. Granted I can always look into a adopting a second one on my own in a month or two after the mad Christmas season is over.

    Pictures will be posted :D

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  • ChorazinChorazin Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DeVryGuy wrote:
    Mahnmut wrote:
    Spackle wrote:
    List looks great, imo. Honestly, I'd try to get another kitten, even better if you can score from the same litter. It's a little more of the hassle but really better for the kittens. They'll have a pal they can play, and a companion to curl up with.

    You still have to pay attention to them, especially at that young age. Another cat is not a substitute but it's of much benefit to the little runt. I've got two cats from different litters and they are great together. I would never split them up.

    I want to emphasize this. You know what you can handle, and if you can only handle one cat, then I don't want you taking on extra, but I think you should consider the possibility of a second kitten.

    Also, you are bound by honor and duty to post pictures when the weekend comes. <3

    I would look into getting two, but since this is a gift I don't want to sound like an asshole to my parents by asking for a second one. Granted I can always look into a adopting a second one on my own in a month or two after the mad Christmas season is over.

    Pictures will be posted :D

    You won't sound like an asshole as long as you explain you're concerned about the cat being lonely when you aren't home.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Chorazin wrote:
    DeVryGuy wrote:
    Mahnmut wrote:
    Spackle wrote:
    List looks great, imo. Honestly, I'd try to get another kitten, even better if you can score from the same litter. It's a little more of the hassle but really better for the kittens. They'll have a pal they can play, and a companion to curl up with.

    You still have to pay attention to them, especially at that young age. Another cat is not a substitute but it's of much benefit to the little runt. I've got two cats from different litters and they are great together. I would never split them up.

    I want to emphasize this. You know what you can handle, and if you can only handle one cat, then I don't want you taking on extra, but I think you should consider the possibility of a second kitten.

    Also, you are bound by honor and duty to post pictures when the weekend comes. <3

    I would look into getting two, but since this is a gift I don't want to sound like an asshole to my parents by asking for a second one. Granted I can always look into a adopting a second one on my own in a month or two after the mad Christmas season is over.

    Pictures will be posted :D

    You won't sound like an asshole as long as you explain you're concerned about the cat being lonely when you aren't home.

    Shit just ask how much the cat is and give them money for a second one then let them go shopping. I'm pretty sure they wont mind.

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  • DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Alright, so I picked up the Fresh Step Scoopable Cat Litter today, along with one of those nifty sifting litter boxes for easy cleaning. However now I'm reading that the clumping style cat litter may be dangerous because if the kitty eats it then bad stuff happens.

    Granted, there has only been anecdotal evidence of this, but should I toss out the Scoopable stuff and get something else?

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  • ChorazinChorazin Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DeVryGuy wrote:
    Alright, so I picked up the Fresh Step Scoopable Cat Litter today, along with one of those nifty sifting litter boxes for easy cleaning. However now I'm reading that the clumping style cat litter may be dangerous because if the kitty eats it then bad stuff happens.

    Granted, there has only been anecdotal evidence of this, but should I toss out the Scoopable stuff and get something else?

    I've never heard of cats eating their litter. Dogs eating catshit and litter? Yes. Cats? No.

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  • redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DeVryGuy wrote:
    Alright, so I picked up the Fresh Step Scoopable Cat Litter today, along with one of those nifty sifting litter boxes for easy cleaning. However now I'm reading that the clumping style cat litter may be dangerous because if the kitty eats it then bad stuff happens.

    Granted, there has only been anecdotal evidence of this, but should I toss out the Scoopable stuff and get something else?
    Where are you reading this? One of the things I learned very quickly after I got my cat is that there are a lot of strongly opinionated but completely wrong cat owners out there, and a lot of bad advice floating around, especially about safety. In any case, my cat wouldn't even think about eating his out of his litter box. Cats in general are pretty finicky, so I can't imagine that would be a very common problem.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I can't see a cat that is mentally stable eating something that holds its own feces. Cats are pretty clean animals.

    If you can't afford to buy another cat from a pet store (and honestly, I don't think you should be buying a cat when there are a ton of them at shelters), just adopt one. Shelters usually charge minimal fees.

    We got both of our cats for about $30 a pop, and that covered vaccinations and getting them fixed.

    As many others have said, I strongly recommend another animal of some sort. Since you won't be home as often as some, I'd recommend a cat since dogs tend to not use a litter box. :)

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Fresh Step FTW. Though the cat really decides what it likes, and lets you know.

    I would disagree with everyone saying 'get another cat so the first can have company'. While cats and dogs can benefit from company, I wouldn't add another family member just for that reason. Unless you're all, "OMG, 2 catz be da bomb!" Just saying don't decide lightly.

    Just like with puppies, whatever you'd like them to do as adults, start doing now. Like if your image of cat has a little silver bell around its neck, get the kitten one (as soon as its safe); same with brushing.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2006
    Another vote here for getting another kitten to keep the first one company. We got two (now had both for eight years) from the same litter, and not only do they keep each other company, they also provide many more opportunities and possibilities for cute photos.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    MichaelLC wrote:
    Fresh Step FTW. Though the cat really decides what it likes, and lets you know.

    I would disagree with everyone saying 'get another cat so the first can have company'. While cats and dogs can benefit from company, I wouldn't add another family member just for that reason. Unless you're all, "OMG, 2 catz be da bomb!" Just saying don't decide lightly.

    While I agree to an extent, in my personal experience having two cats isn't much more work than one.

    The only real difference I've seen is you spend some more on food and litter, and you have to make sure to give each cat some one on one time with you.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Also with the two kitten thing, it's not always the best idea to get one later.

    About ten years ago a stray kitten (probably about 6 months old) started hanging at our house. It was a sweet thing, but out youngest cat, (I think she was 8 and the other was 12) did not like her at all. The funny part was though is that the kitten was deaf, so she would sit on the steps outside facing away from us, while our cat would be inside growling her head off, due to the complete lack of hearing and therefore caring from the kitten she would eventually pounce. What she didn't notice is the glass wall in between them and dive head first in. She thought that kitten was goddam bulletproof.

    We eventually had to give the kitten to the shelter, simply because our other cats weren't taking to her, which was sad cause she was a nice kitty.

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  • DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I got cleared to get two kittens.

    Looking at the humane society's website, I found a brother and sister pair who are, to be exact, "fucking adorable".

    I'm going to go meet them when I get out of work tomorrow. If they are half as awesome as the site makes them sound, then I'll be bringing these two home tomorrow:

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    So this thread has now turned into a post picture of kitties thread now?


    So awesome.

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  • ChorazinChorazin Lancaster, PARegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DeVryGuy wrote:
    I got cleared to get two kittens.

    Looking at the humane society's website, I found a brother and sister pair who are, to be exact, "fucking adorable".

    I'm going to go meet them when I get out of work tomorrow. If they are half as awesome as the site makes them sound, then I'll be bringing these two home tomorrow:

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    <3

    You made a really good decision, they will be happy kitties when you are there and when you are away cause they will have each other.

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    I'm glad you could get two kittens!

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  • krlkrl Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Awesome! Enjoy them while they're so small, they grow insanely fast.

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  • AndorienAndorien Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Those kittens look like they're made of win and awesome. They're also beautiful, with some very nice coloration.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Heir wrote:
    MichaelLC wrote:
    Fresh Step FTW. Though the cat really decides what it likes, and lets you know.

    I would disagree with everyone saying 'get another cat so the first can have company'. While cats and dogs can benefit from company, I wouldn't add another family member just for that reason. Unless you're all, "OMG, 2 catz be da bomb!" Just saying don't decide lightly.

    While I agree to an extent, in my personal experience having two cats isn't much more work than one.

    The only real difference I've seen is you spend some more on food and litter, and you have to make sure to give each cat some one on one time with you.

    Agreed, 2 cats is different than 2 dogs; but still are two seperate animal that require attention, food, check-ups, etc.

    Looks like OP went the two kitty route, so awesome.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Awwwwwwwwwww
    <3<3<3

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Cuddly Wuddly Kitties!

    Grats btw. ;)

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  • DeVryGuyDeVryGuy Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Unfortunately someone had already adopted the girl of the kitten pair previously posted, but I just got home with the boy.

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    So far he's an awesome balance between playful and cuddly. He was pretty freaked out when we first got home, but then he started playing with his toys and he's warmed up to me immensly in a couple of hour.

    My parents said they found a slightly older (just old enough to be fixed) female kitten at a pet store to be his new non-human playtime pal. In which case she'll come home tomorrow.

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  • UnderdogUnderdog Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    DeVryGuy wrote:
    Unfortunately someone had already adopted the girl of the kitten pair previously posted, but I just got home with the boy.

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    So far he's an awesome balance between playful and cuddly. He was pretty freaked out when we first got home, but then he started playing with his toys and he's warmed up to me immensly in a couple of hour.

    My parents said they found a slightly older (just old enough to be fixed) female kitten at a pet store to be his new non-human playtime pal. In which case she'll come home tomorrow.

    As I remember, there's a whole process you have to follow with introducing a new cat to an existing one. Or maybe that doesn't apply here since they'll both be new to your home? I have no idea but that kitty is criminally cute. God I want a pet...

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  • krlkrl Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    Underdog wrote:
    As I remember, there's a whole process you have to follow with introducing a new cat to an existing one.
    Yeah, something like cat A has to beat the shit out of cat B so the 'natural order' is decided. At least that's what happened with our cats. Now they're the best of friends.

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited December 2006
    krl wrote:
    Underdog wrote:
    As I remember, there's a whole process you have to follow with introducing a new cat to an existing one.
    Yeah, something like cat A has to beat the shit out of cat B so the 'natural order' is decided. At least that's what happened with our cats. Now they're the best of friends.

    Most people use the 'keep the cats in different rooms so they get used to each others smells' thing.

    Personally I've found just getting the cats together and letting them rough it out works pretty well, but you'll want to keep an eye on them. Kittens should be fine, I think it's mainly directed towards older cats that have been on their own for a while.

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