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Pokémon Thread: It's mid-January and only 1 person has claimed his Christmas Poké.WTF

RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
edited January 2010 in Games and Technology
Welcome to the Pokémon thread! Here we share opinions, trade and battle with Pokémon.
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If you don't know what Pokémon are, then this thread is probably not for you! But we can help you understand what they are.
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If you don't care about Pokémon, then GTFO.

Pokémon is short for ポケットモンスター or Pocket Monsters. They are creatures that are each one based on an element and are able to attack with moves from those elements. You use your own creatures to capture more and more species you find in the wild. There are 493 of them, and each one has a varying degree of usability in battle.

Tiers, much like in fighting games, will give you an idea of which of them will make it more likely to win a match, but won't necessarily guarantee your victory. For the most up-to-date tier list and probably the most reliable and most used, please refer to Smogon, which also offers examples of movesets and EV spreads that will give you an idea of what to do with yours.
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If you want to be a trainer, and don't even know which version to buy, you can either get Diamond or Pearl for your battling needs, although there is a third version, Platinum (which is out now) and you might want to grab that one instead, as it features several options not available in Diamond or Pearl. There are also two other versions coming, Heart Gold and Soul Silver which are remakes of the game that came out exactly ten years ago in Japan.


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What you need to start battling:

- First of all, finish the main game first. Trying to understand and manipulate EVs and IVs before that will be a pain.
- Once you've beaten the Elite Four, the real fun* begins. First, give Individual Values or IVs a read. You will also want to know everything about breeding and Effort Values or Evs. Natures Natures should also be read.
- Now that you know some things about EVs, you can either grind at the Battle Tower for the points needed to buy the Power Items or borrow them from someone who is used to play here at G&T. These items will make EV training much easier.
- If you aren't sure what to do with your Pokés, check out Smogon for some tips that will help you choose an appropriate EV spread and moveset for your Mons.
- Check out Psypoke's EV training spots.
- Also, check out what's inside the spoiler for a better way to breed eggs (doesn't work in Platinum):

- You might want to check Chen's list of what you should consider adding to your team:

01 Rapid Spin/Magne[strike]ton[/strike]zone
02 Rock resist
[strike]03 Roar/Whirlwind[/strike]
[strike]04 Mixpert counter[/strike]
05 Gengar counter
06 Special Tank
07 Physical Tank
[strike]08 Recover Zam counter[/strike]
[strike]09 Grass Type[/strike]
10 Toxic taker
11 Will-o-Wisp taker
12 Paralysis taker
13 Sleep taker
14 Fighting resistance
15 Tyranitar counter
[strike]16 Reversal counter[/strike]
[strike]17 Sludge Bomb Tentacruel counter[/strike]
18 Water type
[strike]19 Taunt Umbreon counter[/strike]
[strike]20 Jirachi Counter[/strike]
21 Celebi Counter
22 Normal resistance (Explosion)
[strike]23 Curselax counter[/strike]
24 Gyarados+[strike]Magneton[/strike]Electivire counter
25 Salamence counter (usually Ice Beam)
26 Ghost to block Rapid Spin (only if you're using Spikes)
27 Stealth Rock user
28 Draco Meteor taker
29 Outrage taker
30 Fire resistance (Heatran, Infernape)
31 Steel resistance
32 Priority user
33 Revenge killer (usually scarfed or priority user)
34 Trick taker

- And more importantly: Have fun! It doesn't matter if you win or lose. You must have learned something from experience, and if your newest creation wasn't as good as thought it'd be and you want to keep it boxed, don't feel discouraged. We all have trained some Pokémon that we'll never use again because it sounded better on paper than it performed in practice.

General battling rules
- Pokémon battles through Wi-fi automatically level your Pokémon to either levels 50 or 100. So you don't have to train them to level 100 yourself, saving a lot of time. In fact, it will be better if you don't level them up all the way to level 100 since you at that stage you won't be able to edit your Pokés' EVs.
-Sleep Clause: you may not put more than one of your opponent's Pokémon to sleep at a time.
-Species Clause: your team must be comprised of six different species of Pokémon.
-Suicide Clause: If both players are down to their last Pokémon, the player with the first Pokémon to hit 0 HP is the loser. In other words, using moves like Self Destruct and Explosion cause you to lose, even if it kills your opponent. However, using a move with a recoil that kill both you and your opponent is a win for you.
-No Legendary Pokémon whatsoever. This includes Wobbuffet and Garchomp.


Warnings

- Do NOT buy Pokémon Battle Revolution unless you hate yourself.
- If you use U-Turn with a Choice Banded Pokémon, and your next Pokémon also has U-Turn, it will be locked to U-Turn as well. It seems this was a glitch in DP ans was fixed in Platinum. Thanks to Ashton Dragon for the first bit of information and to InvisibleInk for the second bit.
- If your opponent Yawns you and you have a Chesto Berry, you might not want to use Rest, because at the end of that turn you will have woken up with the Chesto Berry after Resting, then you'll fall asleep again because of the Yawn.
- Don't take a bath with your Tentacool.
- Beware: The game is very addictive once you join the community. Make your time.
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Sites of interest

Marriland's team builder. It will let you know how many weaknesses your team has so you can take meassures before battling.
Metalkid's IV Calculator.
Get more Box Wallpapers for DP
Get more Box Wallpapers for Platinum

Use the post below for refering to Friend Codes of people who post in the thread and codes for battles you can watch on Platinum's GTS.

*NEW* Introduction to training for newbies
INDIVIDUAL VALUES

Individual Values, or IVs for short are numbers, from 0 to 31, given to each and every Pokemon when you first encounter it. This determines what your Pokemon's stats are. For instance you see how two Pokemon, even if they have the same Nature, have some different stats? That's IVs. In Diamond and Pearl, you can tell what stat has the highest IV on each Pokemon by looking at its Summary. See the line at the bottom of the screen where its Nature is shown? The "Loves to Eat," "Somewhat vain" "Likes to thrash about." That's the characteristic that shows the highest IV, or if two or more IVs share the highest, a random highest IV.

Okay, here's where things get a little complicated. Each characteristic stands for a bunch of possible IVs. So if you get "Often dozes off" for the highest IV, it could be 31, but it could also be 26, 21, 16, 11, 6, or 1. The characteristics go around in a pattern, which repeats itself.

Anyways, here's the list of the pattern. At the end, they repeat.

HIT POINTS
  • 31-Often dozes off
  • 30-Loves to Eat
  • 29-Likes to Relax
  • 28-Scatters things often
  • 27-Often scatters things
  • 26-Often dozes off

ATTACK
  • 31-Likes to thrash about
  • 30-Proud of its' Power
  • 29-Quick Tempered
  • 28-Likes to fight
  • 27-A little Quick-Tempered
  • 26-Likes to Thrash about

DEFENSE
  • 31-Capable of taking hits
  • 30-Sturdy Body
  • 29-Good perseverance
  • 28-Good endurance
  • 27-Highly persistent
  • 26-Capable of taking hits

SPECIAL ATTACK
  • 31-Mischeivous
  • 30-Highly Curious
  • 29-Very Finicky
  • 28-Often lost in thought
  • 27-Thoroughly cunning
  • 26-Mischeivous

SPECIAL DEFENSE
  • 31-Somewhat Vain
  • 30-Strong Willed
  • 29-Somewhat Stubborn
  • 28-Hates to lose
  • 27-Strongly Defiant
  • 26-Somewhat Vain

SPEED
  • 31-Alert to sounds
  • 30-Likes to run
  • 29-Quick to flee
  • 28-Somewhat of a clown
  • 27-Impetuous and silly
  • 26-Alert to sounds

BREEDING
The Magma Armor/Flame Body effect (EDP)

A nice breeding feature introduced in Emerald is an additional effect that Pokémon with the ability Magma Armor or Flame Body have during the game.

Eggs need warmth, right? Having a Pokémon with this ability in your team will reduce the number of steps you need to walk/ride in order for the egg to hatch by roughly half. The word ‘roughly’ here will be clarified later on in Section Three of this part of the breeding guide.

Here is a list of Pokémon that can have the ability Magma Armor and Flame Body:
Magma Armor: Camerupt, Slugma, Magcargo
Flame Body: Magby, Magmar, Slugma, Magcargo

Make sure you have always one of these in your team while you breed in Emerald, Diamond or Pearl.

Because Slugma and Magcargo both only have Magma Armor or Flame Body, we're going to work on capturing them. They can be captured from various games. Remember, their out of battle effects work only in EDP, so if you get a Slugma from outside EDP, you need to transfer it to Emerald, Diamond or Pearl for Magma Armor or Flame Body to have their step-to-hatch reducing effects.

Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald
Slugma is found 10% of the time on the Fiery Path. In addition, in E, Slugma can also be found in Route 113.

FireRed and LeafGreen
Slugma will always appear on the third basement floor of Mount Ember. If you use Rock Smash on the same floor, Magcargo appear 10% of the time.

Diamond and Pearl
Start by heading north from the Resort Area, onto Stark Mountain. Go inside Stark Mountain itself, and walk around the first area. You've got a 35% chance of getting either Slugma or Magcargo; capture it when you see one.

Other
In Colosseum, Roller Boy Lon of Pyrite Town has a Slugma, and in XD: Gale of Darkness, Cipher Peon Kolest in Citadark Isle has a Magcargo.
The Everstone Hold Item (EDP)

In EDP, if a female Pokémon is holding the item Everstone and breeds with a male Pokémon, the baby will have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the female Pokémon. This also works if the Pokémon holding Everstone is Ditto.

To be perfectly clear, these are the four different ways to transfer a nature 50% of the time to the baby:
  • A Male Pokémon breeding with a Female Pokémon holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Female Pokémon.
  • A Male Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto.
  • A Female Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto. (Even if both the female Pokémon and Ditto hold Everstone, it will still be a 50% chance of the nature being transferred, and it will always be the Ditto nature that is transferred to the baby. Also, Everstone will not work if it is being held by the female Pokémon while being bred with Ditto.)
  • A Genderless Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto.

If you breed in DP, it is possible that Everstone won't work. This happens if you breed two Pokémon that originate from different language versions, for example an English Emerald Ditto with a Japanese Diamond Chimchar.

Everstone can also be found in various games. Remember that Everstone’s effect in breeding works only in EDP, so be sure to transfer it to Emerald, Diamond or Pearl if you find one outside of these three games.

Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald
An Everstone can be found in Granite Cave.

FireRed and LeafGreen
You can get an Everstone in the Pokémon Center near the Rock Tunnel.

Diamond and Pearl
Everstones are extremely common in the Sinnoh Underground. Just keep mining.
Ditto: the Master Breeder

As should be clear from the previous section, Ditto is a very valuable Pokémon to have, since it can breed with every breedable Pokémon, and it can also transfer its nature 50% of the time even to genderless Pokémon like Staryu, if it is equipped with the Everstone item.

You might be saying, after reading all this: "Okay, let’s see if I’m understanding this correctly. I need a Ditto with a Timid Nature in order to breed it with my Gastly, so that I can get a Timid Gastly, right? But from where am I going to get such a Ditto?”

The short answer is: you need to catch it.

I can hear groans of disappointment, but cheer up: this is actually not very difficult to do. To ensure that its nature is the one we’re looking for, use a Pokémon that has the Synchronize trait (only in EDP).

In EDP, if the first Pokémon in your party has the Synchronize ability (trait), all the Pokémon encountered have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Synchronize Pokémon. The Pokémon that can have the Synchronize ability are the following:
  • Abra
  • Kadabra
  • Alakazam
  • Mew
  • Natu
  • Xatu
  • Espeon
  • Umbreon
  • Ralts
  • Kirlia
  • Gardevoir

So first, you'll want to get a Ralts, a Natu or an Abra. Abra has a catch rate of 200 and is very rare in Emerald (route 116 and Granite Cave), so you might want to go with Ralts or Natu. Ralts has a catch rate of 235 and can be found in Route 102, but is a bit rare. Natu can be found in the Safari Zone, is uncommon and has a catch rate of 190. Remember that, the higher the catch rate, the easier that Pokemon is to catch.

Here is a list of where Ditto is located:

FireRed and LeafGreen
Routes 13, 14 and 15, in Cerulean Cave and in the Pokémon Mansion. However, Synchronize doesn’t work here, so it's not recommended to catch Ditto in FRLG.

Emerald
It is quite common in the Desert Underpass.

Diamond and Pearl
Once you've completed the Sinnoh Dex by having seen all the Pokémon native to Sinnoh, Professor Rowan will give you the PokéRadar. Head to Canalave City and buy 100 Super Repels (Max Repels are a ripoff of the highest order). Head east, onto Route 218. Stand in the middle of the grass without your bike and use one of the Super Repels, followed by the PokéRadar. Look for grass with yellow lines coming from it, and head directly for it. 18% of the time, a Ditto will appear in one of these patches. After you capture the Ditto, the grass will shake again, and you generally want to head for a patch that is furthest away, not on the edge of the patch, and has those same yellow lines. If you did it correctly, you will encounter another Ditto. This is called chaining. Also, try to level up your Synchonizer to Level 35; if you run into another Pokémon, your chain will be broken, you'll have to try again.
Breeding Information

If you put two compatible Pokémon in the Day Care, the Day Care man will offer you an egg after you walk or ride for a while.

The man then tells you one of the following four phrases:

"The two prefer to play with other Pokémon than each other."

This means one of the following four cases:
One or both parents cannot breed.
They are from different egg groups.
You are breeding a genderless Pokémon with a Pokémon that is not Ditto.
You are breeding a male Pokémon with another male Pokémon, or a female Pokémon with another female Pokémon.

In this case, the two Pokémon will never breed.

"They don't seem to like each other much."

This means that the Pokémon being bred are different but have the same trainer IDs. They have a low chance of breeding, but they will eventually breed, so don’t give up.

"The two seem to get along."

This means either that the Pokémon being bred are the same Pokémon and have the same trainer IDs, or that they are different Pokémon having different trainer IDs. They have a moderate chance of breeding.

"The two seem to get along very well."

This means that the Pokémon being bred are the same Pokémon having different trainer IDs. They have a high chance of breeding.

Note: By “same Pokémon” is meant two Pokémon of the same species and the same evolution form, for example Bagon + Bagon, Chimchar + Chimchar, etc. By “different Pokémon” is meant two different species of Pokémon or two Pokémon of different evolution forms, for example Kingdra + Bagon or Bagon + Salamence.
Breeding Roads

This is where you'll spend most of your time while you breed and hatch.

In Emerald, there is a nice road 134 steps long, ranging from the Battle Tent sign in Verdanturf Town to the boulder on the shore of Route 118, where you can ride your bike on while waiting for the egg to hatch. The distance from the Day Care man standing in front of his fence to the left hand side of the end of the route is 66 steps. The distance between him and the right end of the route is 70 steps.

In Diamond and Pearl, there is a road connecting Route 210 (north of Solaceon Town) and Route 209 (south of Solaceon Town) where you can bike through it back and forth while you're breeding. This road is 123 steps long. The distance from the Day Care man standing in front of the day care to the top of Route 210 is 64 steps. The distance between him and the bottom of Route 209 is 71 steps.
Hatching methods

Soft Reset Method
This method is based on the fact that in Emerald, Diamond and Pearl, gender, nature (personality) and ability (trait) are already set (locked) as soon as the egg is created, before you take it. That means that if you save exactly before taking the egg and then soft reset, the Pokémon inside the egg will have the same gender, nature and ability if you load again.
  1. Save in front of the Day Care man.
  2. Take the egg.
  3. Bike on the breeding route.
  4. Ignore the next egg proposed to you by the Day Care man.
  5. Hatch the egg.
  6. Check the newly hatched Pokémon to see whether it does have the desired gender, nature and ability and
  • If it doesn't have the desired gender/nature/ability, save in front of the Day Care man again (there should be another egg waiting for you, which was produced while you hatched the first one) and repeat the process until you get a suitable baby.
  • If it does have the desired gender/nature/ability, but it doesn't have the desired IVs, soft reset the game (START+SELECT+A+B) and take the egg again (gender/nature/ability won't change, only the IVs), hatch and check the IVs, repeat the process until you get the IVs you want.

Pros:
  • The gender, nature and ability you want are set in stone.
  • This method is useful to get a female Pokémon with the right nature and a few perfect IVs.
  • It is also useful if the parents don't like each other much.

Cons:
  • Not many babies are bred and checked using this method, which means that it can get hard to get the right IVs when there isn't a high probability.
  • This method does not suit persons who care about game time more than anything else.

It is recommended that this method is used in the beginning, when the probabilities to get the IVs you want are still relatively high (like when getting 1 or 2 flawless IVs). Alternatively, you can use this method when you're trying to get a female parent with the right nature.

Mass Hatch Method
This method consists of three separate stages. First you get a large number of eggs, then you hatch all of them and check them at the end.

Get a number of eggs
You take an egg as soon as it is created. When you have five eggs in your team and the next one is created, deposit all five in a box. Repeat this process until you have at least 25 eggs in a box. Take the parents from the daycare and leave the Pokémon you want to level up there instead.

Hatch all eggs
Withdraw five eggs having approximately the same number of steps walked before deposit and ride the bike unless all of them hatch. Then deposit the Pokémon, withdraw another five eggs having around the same number of steps walked and hatch them. Repeat the process until all eggs hatch.

Checking all eggs
If you want, first save in front of the PC. This helps if you release the wrong Pokémon by mistake. In the PC, choose the "Move Pokémon" option and go through all of the babies quickly to check if there are any shinies. Get your level 5 max neutral stats paper and check the babies. If you see one that you're aiming for, mark that baby (for flawless IVs I use ring = HP, square = Attack/Defense, triangle = Special Attack/Special Defense, heart = Speed). After you're done, release all the unmarked babies. Now withdraw five of the marked babies, and save in front of the PC. Rare Candy all five to Level 10 and check their IVs. Continue to Rare Candy the ones that look promising. When you're done, soft reset, release the ones that didn't pass the check, and deposit the rest. Repeat the process until you check all of the marked babies.

Pros:
  • A large number of eggs (about the same amount as for the running method) are bred.
  • Other Pokémon can level up during this process.
  • You are able to do other things while riding your bike (like watching TV or surfing the Smogon website!)
  • You don't lose as much time as with the running method while going to your PC and back - around 30 seconds. For 25 eggs, this means there will be five deposits and five withdrawals. For the running method, you would make 25 deposits. On the other hand, the mass hatch method wastes time while waiting for egg creation and because of some of the eggs being left in the PC.

Cons:
  • The time it takes to complete this method relies a lot on how often an egg is created. That's why it's only suited for when the parents get along very well, or get along. Sometimes, it takes around three minutes to get five eggs, sometimes even more than five.
  • Switching parents during this process is impossible. You'll have to wait until you have hatched and checked all the babies before doing so.

This method is suited for the final stages of breeding, where you go for 3 or 4 flawless IV babies while you have both parents with at least 2 flawless IVs. You can also level up two other Pokémon while you ride the bike.

EFFORT VALUES

Effort Values are points your pokemon can get from fighting other Pokemon. For instance, if you spend a lot of time fighting wild Gastly in the Old Chateau, and you notice that your Pokemon's Special Attack is going up a bit faster than normal, that's because Gastly carries a Effort Value for Special Attack. Since lower level Pokemon grow quicker than higher level ones, the increase in stats isn't very obvious. On the other hand, if you train a Pokemon that starts at level 50 or more, you'll see their EV trained stats grow a LOT!

The item Macho Brace makes the Effort Values, or EVs for short, double, so instead of getting one EV Point from fighting a Gastly, you get two.

On very rare occasions, the lady at any Pokemon Center will tell you that your Pokemon has a disease called Pokerus. Unlike real life, it's a very good thing to get Pokerus. Pokerus does the same thing that Macho Brace does, it doubles the EVs you get from fighting Pokemon. If your Pokemon has Pokerus, you'll see it in the Pokemon's summary. It's a purple square that says "PKRS" under your Pokemon's name.

After a few days outside the storage box, your Pokemon will lose the purple box and gain a smiley face in the lower right corner of its picture. This DOES NOT mean your Pokemon has lost the EV gain. It means that your Pokemon won't be able to spread it to any other Pokemon. Keep the infected Pokemon in the Storage Box if you don't want that to happen. If you want another Pokemon to get Pokerus, just keep it in the same party as an infected one and fight some battles. After a while, check the new Pokemon's summary to see if it has Pokerus. If not, keep on battling.

So back to Effort Values. If your Pokemon has had Pokerus and if you put a Macho Brace on it, then your EV's will be quadrupled, So, that 1-Point Gastly will now be worth FOUR points.The sad thing is, you can only gain so many Effort Values. Each stat can only take 255 Effort Values (Although it's more usual to give your Pokemon 252 EVs, because it's easier to divide by 4.) In all your Pokemon will gain a total of 510 EVs. Try to keep it simple by making the EVs even numbers in each stat. If you think you have all your EVs in place, you can make sure of it by going to Sunnyshore city, go to the sticker shop and talk to the lady there. If your EVs are full, she'll give your Pokemon a ribbon.
GETTING MACHO BRACE/VITAMINS/OTHER EV GAINING ITEMS.

To get a Macho Brace you must have three Burmy in your Party. Make each one of them a different type by making one fight in a building, another fight in grass, and the third one fight in a cave. Then take all three of them to Pastoria City. See that house just above the Pokemart? If you talk to the guy inside with all three different kinds of Burmy he will give you the Macho Brace.

You can also gain Effort Values by feeding your Pokemon "Vitamins." These are nutritious drinks which give you 10 EVs in one Stat. You can only feed your Pokemon 10 of these per stat, so a total of 100 EVs.
  • HP Up: Hit Points
  • Protein: Attack
  • Iron: Defense
  • Calcium: Special Attack
  • Zinc: Special Defense
  • Carbos: Speed

There are other EV increasing items too. They are prizes in the Battle tower. They will add 4 EVs to a certain stat along with your normal EVs. This is the list of what affects what.
  • Power Weight: Hit Points
  • Power Bracer: Attack
  • Power Belt: Defense
  • Power Lens: Special Attack
  • Power Band: Special Defense
  • Power Ankle: Speed

To use Gastly as an example again, with a Power item equipped, you will gain 1 + 4 = 5 Special Attack EVs by defeating it or simply gaining experience from it. If it's infected with Pokerus this outcome is multiplied by 2, so that means 10 Special Attack EVs in total.
REDUCING EVs

If you made a mistake and accidentally put the wrong kind of EVs on your Pokemon, there is a way to fix that. Certain Berries will lower the EVs on one Stat. They are:
  • Hit Point Evs: Pomeg Berry
  • Attack EVs: Kelpsy Berry
  • Defense EVs: Qualot Berry
  • Special Attack EVs: Hondew berry
  • Special Defense EVs: Grepa berry
  • Speed Evs: Tamato Berry.

Each Berry will take off 10 EVs. If your Pokemon has more than 100 EVs in that Stat, the berry will reduce the EVs of that Stat to 100 precisely.
EASY PLACES TO TRAIN

This is a list of some easy places to train each Stat. These aren't the only places, but they're the best I can think of.

HIT POINTS
At the beginning of the game, wild Bidoofs are worth 1 EV in Hit Points. Another good place is the Valley Windworks. You'll find wild Shellos, worth 1 EV Point each. Also if you come back later on Fridays in the game there will be a wild Drifloon there, it's also worth 1 Point. Later on in the game, Shellos and Gastrodon (Which are worth 2 Points) can also be found at Route 218. Once you beat the game and get the Pokeradar, you can use it at any of the three Lakes to find Wobuffet (Worth 2 Points.)

ATTACK
Wild Shinx are worth 1 EV each. They're found in Route 202, 203, and 204. Wild Machop are also worth 1 EV. They can be found on Route 207. Bibarel can be found in a LOT of places, they give two Attack EVs each. The Evolved form of Machop, Machoke, can be found in some of the later Caves. They're worth two Attack EVs.

DEFENSE
If you go into almost any cave in Sinnoh, you'll find wild Geodudes and Onix. They're both worth 1 Point each. Their Evolved forms, Graveler and Steelix, are 2 Points. Eterna Forest is also a good Training spot, for Silcoon and Cascoon which are both worth two points.

SPECIAL ATTACK
As you could tell from the earlier example I used, Gastly is worth 1 EV of Special Attack. The Old Chateau is a very good place to fight them. Route 215 has Kadabras which are worth two points. If you have any of the Third Generation Games (Like Fire Red) putting one of them in your DS will make Haunter (Worth 2 Points) and Gengar (Worth 3 Points) appear in the Old Chateau.

Special Defense
The most common Pokemon with Special Defense EVs are Tentacool (Worth 1 Point) and Tentacruel (Worth 2 Points.) If you haven't gotten Surf yet, you can find Mime Jr. (1 Point) and Mr. Mime (2 Points in Diamond) and Cleffa in the first floor of Mt. Coronet.

SPEED
Wild Starly have 1 Point of Speed EVs. They are pretty common in the beginning of the game. Zubat are also 1 Point and found in almost every cave. Their Evolved forms, Staravia and Golbat, are worth 2 Points. Later in the Game, a good place is Route 218. There are Floatzel (Worth 2 Points) Wingull (1 Point) as well as Glameow, (Worth 1 Point) if you have Pearl.
BREEDING CHAINS

Since the old days of Gold and Silver, Pokemon Breeding has been the same. You leave two Pokemon at the Day-Care Center and if they are both different genders and in the same Breeding Group, they'll make an Egg. The baby that hatches from the Egg will be the same species as its mother and it will have the TMs (If the Mother's Species can learn them) of its' Father. If the Father knows any of the Egg Moves the Baby can learn, these will be passed down, too. If the mother is the right Nature, and it's holding an Everstone there is a better chance of the baby hatching with that Nature, something that comes in VERY handy.

So, what if you want the Baby to learn more than one Egg Move? That's where Breeding Chains come in. The first thing to do is figure out what Pokemon learns the moves. If you have a compatible pokemon that say learns one move naturally and the other one as an Egg Move, you can breed it with a different Pokemon to get the moves you need.

Okay, as an example say you want an Electivire with both Cross Chop and Ice Punch. You figure out what learns the moves. One Pokemon in Electivire's Breeding group is Machop. It learns Cross Chop naturally, but Ice Punch is an Egg Move. So, you find a Pokemon that learns Ice Punch naturally, or from the Move Tutor. Hitmonchan and Medicham learn it, plus they're in the same Breeding group as Electivire and Machop. Here's how the Breeding Chain goes.

Medicham (Male, with Ice Punch)+Machop (Female)
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Machop (Male, Leveled up to learn Cross Chop)+Electabuzz (Female)
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Elekid (With Cross Chop and Ice Punch.)

The trick is finding a father that learns the right moves. If the Egg you get from the first generation is female, either reset your game or breed more Babies until you get a male.

Breeding is also a way to not waste TMs. If you find a father who learns the TM naturally, you can breed it from Pokemon to Pokemon until you get to the Species you want.[/quote]

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    Active Battlers' Friend Codes:
    RockinX (Diamond): 0301-6425-9658 -- (SoulSilver): 0818-3361-8123
    Kay (Diamond): 2277-9321-5433 -- (Platinum): 4253-9422-6181
    InvisibleInk (Diamond): 1890-7641-5153 -- (Platinum): 1419 2587 1159
    Kuribo's Shoe: 4726-3831-9680
    Chen: 1633-1499-9731
    Emerlmaster999 (Platinum): 1762-8554-8209
    Arikado: 0645-5958-6383
    Aggril (Pearl): 1418-3381-0393
    troublebrewing: 3824-4455-1138
    SirToasty (Diamond): 0645-2240-5346 -- (Platinum): 2836-5993-1590
    krylon666 (Plat): 5198-8471-4100
    Jugs (Platinum): 2965-4488-5135
    Eveelution (Diamond): 1934-5192-0708 -- (Platinum): 2707-7660-6352
    Rami: 1505-1815-6853
    Zerokku: 3008-4195-7069
    WIckedkarma: 2922 6385 6459
    Nerdgasmic: 1333 0236 8007
    Professor Hydron: 4382-9013-9323
    Kabuki64: 0516 4736 9808

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Tournament canceled!

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Guys I am not done gloating about my Murkrow yet. Look at this motherfucker

    HP: 30 - 31
    Att: 30 - 31
    Def: 26 - 31
    SpA: 30 - 31
    SpD: 16 - 25
    Speed: 31

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Those are less sure than last time.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    Those are less sure than last time.

    No?
    Holy shit Murkrow:

    HP: 30 - 31
    Att: 30 - 31
    Def: 26 - 31
    SpA: 30 - 31
    SpD: 16 - 25
    Speed: 31

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    My mistake.



    I will still live in fear of its shadow

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I am happy that I decided in advance to name this thing Batman.

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  • Kay2Kay2 Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    I'm looking at your motherfucker.

    My PM box is still broken, I need to get this fixed, but I don't know how and mailing support didn't work.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    Can we have a list of friend codes again?

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  • MaytagMaytag Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Got to hate having to fight that thing as a Honchkrow someday, not that I haven't lucked out pretty badly on some of mine though.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    RockinX wrote: »
    Placeholder post for tournament

    Meh. I forgot to have a placeholder post. If Nerdgasmic can delete his post, I'd appreciate it so that one can actually be the placeholder.

    I can probably blame my medication, but I was just being lazy and forgot.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2009
    :^:

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited August 2009
    Thanks.

    Changed Misty's comic.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Would someone like to help me bounce Honchcrow from Diamond to Platinum so I can Move Tutor it?

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Sure. I'll be on soon after checking this Regirock.

    Can you also help me with a tutor move?

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Yeah I can. I might be a while because I don't know how many shards I have on Platinum though, so I may have to go digging.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Uhh... oh. So, I just moved into my dorm a week ago, and I brought Platinum's case with me.

    I just opened the case and it's empty.

    So uh

    yeah.

    Could anyone help me out and teach my Honchcrow two moves on Platinum?

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Oh, that sucks.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Anyone up for fighting?

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    If you're still there, I'm going to grab a team.

    Edit: I guess you aren't here.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I am now!

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well, I'll grab the Pokés and head online.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I REALLY hope that HGSS speeds up the item-consuming animation.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That wasn't a crit. WTF!

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Things look bleak!

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I'm debating on whether or not I want to import HG or SS.

    Can't decide. I'm indecisive as fuck.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I want to, but my fucking country sucks.

    Heh! A Bold move.

    What are you doing?

    GG.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    That's a

    that's a bad way to go out.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Lanturn has Volt Absorb, yeah. I really like Mutant Dolphin. Look at how much energy it survived the Close Combat with!

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    why is it no matter what pokemon i'm playing i end up with a damn alakazam.
    is it because they are so awesome?

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  • edited September 2009
    ho-oh > lugia

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  • MaytagMaytag Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Registeels on smogon's shoddy server are so pissing me off, all i want to do is practice with my team.

    Maytag on
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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    why is it no matter what pokemon i'm playing i end up with a damn alakazam.
    is it because they are so awesome?

    Yeah, I'm the same way.

    It's even worse in 3rd and 4th gen, because I also usually end up with a Gardevoir on the same team.

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    ho-oh > lugia

    Zapdos > Ho-Oh> Lugia

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    THEPAIN73 wrote: »
    ho-oh > lugia

    Zapdos > Ho-Oh> Lugia

    Yes.

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  • kabuki64kabuki64 Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    THEPAIN73 wrote: »
    ho-oh > lugia

    Zapdos > Ho-Oh> Lugia

    Yes.

    Zapdos, one of the reasons I have a slow Earthqaker, Roost! EQ! Dead!

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    I still yearn for the day that I will have a competive Zapdos named The Fonz.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Well, you haven't really asked for it. Though I can't rename mine The Fonz because Japanese games have a five-character limit. Unless you want Za Fonzu.

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  • JordanthehuttJordanthehutt Registered User regular
    edited September 2009
    so I'm thinking about training up an umbreon. oh god so much work.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited September 2009
    Uhh... oh. So, I just moved into my dorm a week ago, and I brought Platinum's case with me.

    I just opened the case and it's empty.

    So uh

    yeah.

    Could anyone help me out and teach my Honchcrow two moves on Platinum?

    It depends on what you need, I'm down to 5 Blue Shards. I'll help you, but I'll probably have to go digging first.

    Good replacement picture in the OP Rockin.
    You know there's still a couple of Pokés in the OP.

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