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A Kohl's Story Brah : Bomb has been Defused

Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen"Registered User regular
edited November 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm going to spoiler tag this because its a really long read and those who like to read can read the full version of A Kohl's Story Brah. I'll have the summary at the bottom.
Background Story : Over the summer I had to miss a semester of college because I was at Advanced Individual Training at Fort Eustis, Virginia for the US Army Reserve. When I returned in October I was drastically bored. One day I decided to buy some new shoes Kohls. When I got there I noticed that Kohls was hiring. While money wasn't an issue for me because I budgeted the amount of income I earned at AIT I have a safety net established. I decided to apply for a job out of boredom. Because you know, playing WoW all day gets old after awhile. To great surprise they called me back asking me to work retail. Being extremely bored I said "SURE! I'll TAKE THE JOB!"

The Kohls Story : Working at Kohls was fine at first until my second month. As employees got to notice me as well as bosses a lot of the bosses and older workers tend to like me a lot. They feel that my sense of humor and demeanor is very positive. The result, they welcome me. However, the young cliquen (You know, the ones who are disappointed that they'll be working retail for life) aren't really the greatest fans of me because I assume they either don't understand me, or took a few of my awful jokes as "flirting", despite it being known that I have a girl friend. The result is headaches.

Starting on Wednesday they decided to start snitching on me for every little pin drop. The first being a few friends that were looking at house appliances for parents and decided to drop a line asking if I wanted to get beer with them once I got off of work. One of these girls then snitched to a manager saying I was socializing on the job. The hiring manager is pretty cool. All he said is "Hey man, don't be doing that now. It'll get you in trouble." I was a little uneased by it, but I didn't think anything of it. Later that night I eaves dropped on the cliques leader admitting that she was the one who called the hiring manager on me and that she thinks that I am "lazy" because of my "hispanic" heritage. The ironic part is I'm of caucasian descendant and not hispanic. +1 for EO statement. I decided to not report it because it would be a "he said she said" incident

Friday I got to work the warehouse all day. Yeahhh! Nobody can bother me back there.

Today however was possibly the worst day of my life. It started with a disgruntled customer that took a clearance price and stuck it to a bowl just to save a whole $4.00. After being called to the register to verify the price and taking a few brutal insults from the customer I decided to walk to the back and double check the price because I knew it was wrong. The cashier then started to holler at me to hurry up through the radio. I mumbled to myself "Sigh, I'm sick of this shit". To which, one of the snitches heard me and told the big boss of the store. I'm told to page his extension and I get an awful response. Basically he asks if I want to work at Kohls or get fired right there. I didn't feel like coming home two hours into the job that day and telling my dad that I was fired from Kohls because I was snitched on. I then tell the manager that I was sorry and it wouldn't happen again.

A few minor debacles came and went and the managers I assume figured "Snitching is snitching". Therefore, I didn't hear anything about it until later. When I was about to take my lunch break a customer asked me if I could quickly call another store for her to see if they had a certain brand of shower curtains. I told them I was about to go on lunch, but they insisted that I call for them because the sale was about to end. I do them the favor and I call the neighboring store. You have to tell the person from what store you're calling from. I had a brain fart and forgot what town I was in and I told him the Kohls's near X town to which he guessed that I was at Y. He checked and told me that they didn't. I told the customers that they could order them curtains from the phone in the store and have them shipped directly to their house for free. They wanted to do it this way, but asked me to get someone else to help them because they didn't want to keep me from eating. When I radioed a coworker and he said he'd cover it for me. At Kohls you have to ask for permission to take your break and when I asked I get a very VERY angry response from the boss saying "FINISH HELPING OUT THE CUSTOMER OR ELSE!" I then ran into one of the assistant managers who really likes me. She basically informs me that sometime ago one of the snitches heard the brain fart part only and told the managers that I said "I'm Waffen from X, wazzup dooood" and then proceeded to ditch the customers. When I told her what really happened she basically pulled the "Shit son I feel bad for you, but square yourself away" card and let me eat.

After I finished eating a coworker noticed I was stressed out which was highly unusual for me and asked me what was going on. I told her my day and she insisted I talk to the hiring manager once the boss left because hes pretty cool. She paged him once he did and I talked to him. He basically shared condolences and told me to go incognito for a few days to let everything pass. He also informed me that my job was in no jeopardy at all and asked me to try to focus. It calmed me down a little bit and I went out to finish the last 30 minutes of the day.

Almost immediately after leaving the break room I get ambushed by one of the snitches and shes screaming at me that that they were looking for me for the past 30 minutes and I was nowhere to be found (Despite it being known I was on lunch break) and accused me of dereliction of duty. I blew it off as a "K" and asked what the customer wanted. She told me they were looking for something that wasn't on the shelf and wasn't on the truck. Pretty much she knew it wasn't in the store so she made a scene about it. The customer, who was disgruntled just says that shes going to go to Target and buy it there. The snitch practically begs her to stay and apologizes deeply, but the customer was not amused. She blames me for the lost sale and proceeds to report me to the manager. I assume he blew it off because he knew I was with him and on lunch break prior.

After I got off I punched out a minute early and as I went to grab my backpack (I usually go to the gym after work) I noticed that it was positioned differently. Being in the Army it messes with your head. It has you start readjusting your civilian lifestyle similar to that of the military. Anyway, I noticed that bag was facing the wrong direction. As I pulled it down it was heavier than when I came in that morning. I also noticed that the waste clip on this specific back was unraveled. I check every pocket and find a few pair of jeans with security tags tucked into my back pack. Someone tried to set me up the bomb! (Okay, I had to use that line) I then put on a pair of gloves that I had that day, pulled the stuff out of the bag, and quickly push it into a corner. I then dump my bag and check every single pocket and nook making sure there wasn't anything else in there to which there wasn't. (Bomb has been defused). I then promptly decide to leave.

I didn't want to tell the management because it would sound really dumb. Being new and accusing someone of putting merchandise in my bag would sound really stupid and made up.

Summary. Despite the statement above (Search for EO statement) I'll just say this clique of chicks don't like me for an unknown reason. They snitched on me all day making my day miserable and attempted to put stolen merchandise into my bag hoping that I'd set off the detectors and get fired/sent to jail for theft. The day was awful. I remember that my douche bag boss offered me a way out and I'm thinking about taking it. I loathe drama and these girls are hardcore at it. Should I take it the offer or should I wade it out till I go back to school in early January? I'm starting to feel that working at Kohls isn't worth going to jail, losing rank, and not being able to commission in 2012 because of a misdemeanor.

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    FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2009
    Okay, this kind of sucks since you're the new guy.. and if they've been there a while the other managers will eat up whatever they say.

    And yeah.. it'd be hard to convince them that someone is putting shit into your backpack.

    Only thing I can think of for now is either try and request a store transfer, try to get transferred to warehouse permanently, or start looking for a new job in your free time because what the hell. Psycho bitch is going to be psycho forever.

    Alternately, is there any way for you to lock your backpack up?

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    The Kohls that my grandmother works at has a security camera in the break room so I would go to the boss you are on best grounds with as soon as you can and tell him about the backpack, but do not accuse anyone of doing it. If they have a camera in the break room they'll review the tape and hopefully psycho bitch will have karma served.

    By not saying anything, even if no one believes you when you tell them, you're just inviting whoever did this to do it again.

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    MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Waffen wrote: »
    I also noticed that the waste clip on this specific back was unraveled. I check every pocket and find a few pair of jeans with security tags tucked into my back pack. Someone tried to set me up the bomb! (Okay, I had to use that line) I then put on a pair of gloves that I had that day, pulled the stuff out of the bag, and quickly push it into a corner. I then dump my bag and check every single pocket and nook making sure there wasn't anything else in there to which there wasn't. (Bomb has been defused). I then promptly decide to leave.

    I didn't want to tell the management because it would sound really dumb. Being new and accusing someone of putting merchandise in my bag would sound really stupid and made up.
    This is straight fucked up. You need to report it. Things might not have ended well for you if you weren't so observant. Talk to the HR person, and catalog every single instance of them messing with you. It sounds like they want you out, and have no scruples about how it's accomplished.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    You need to report this. Period. If they don't believe you, then fine, you need to walk. And don't bother with two weeks' notice. I mean, apologize to them for the lack of two weeks' notice, and try not to burn any bridges, but this is an incredibly hostile work environment, and they need to understand that if they're not going to do anything about it, there's just no way you can continue working there.

    It's a dumb retail job you don't even need. Not even close to worth it.

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    bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    if nobody in your store wants to take you seriously, you can be damned sure human resources will

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    bsjezz wrote: »
    if nobody in your store wants to take you seriously, you can be damned sure human resources will
    This is an option after you've already taken it up the chain of command. And honestly, it sounds like it's just not worth the trouble. I mean, I would probably do it, but not out of any rational self-interest or anything, just because I'm a vindictive bastard. Also, make sure you watch your back at work for the next few days, be on your best behavior, and report this shit first thing tomorrow. Like, if you're not working tomorrow, go in anyway just to report it, and if you are working tomorrow, show up early to report it.

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    bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    it has to be done, though. you can't let bullying cultures continue just because the local management have become blase about it. human resource departments are there to stamp that sort of shit out, and with good reason

    edit: but yeah, do be sure your direct supervisors aren't willing to do anything before you go over their heads. but don't hesitate to do it if they won't

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    Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    @FyreWulff - I was just going to start leaving my backpack in my car. For lunch and breaks I was just going to chill out in the vehicle so I can avoid coworkers at anytime possible.

    @Veevee - No Cameras in the break room

    Overall, I just got back from AIT and I'm really burned out on drama. I'm not really even in the mood to bring it up to be honest. Plus I've always got a bad tendency to see stuff like this go wrong and I feel as if somehow I could see this back firing on me.

    Plus its not like I really need the job. I have enough money to cover my car payment for about a year and I'll be returning to school in January. At school I was going to get my life guard certification to work at the indoor pool as well as either work at the chow hall or night ops checking in drunk college students at night. The college campus purposely reserves most of the jobs for the students anyway. A job at school is almost guaranteed.

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    you have a dime a dozen retail job. I would quit and go get another one.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Waffen wrote: »
    @FyreWulff - I was just going to start leaving my backpack in my car. For lunch and breaks I was just going to chill out in the vehicle so I can avoid coworkers at anytime possible.

    @Veevee - No Cameras in the break room

    Overall, I just got back from AIT and I'm really burned out on drama. I'm not really even in the mood to bring it up to be honest. Plus I've always got a bad tendency to see stuff like this go wrong and I feel as if somehow I could see this back firing on me.

    Plus its not like I really need the job. I have enough money to cover my car payment for about a year and I'll be returning to school in January. At school I was going to get my life guard certification to work at the indoor pool as well as either work at the chow hall or night ops checking in drunk college students at night. The college campus purposely reserves most of the jobs for the students anyway. A job at school is almost guaranteed.
    At the very least, when you quit, you need to explain why. Like I said, you don't want to burn any bridges, and you at least want to give them a good reason why you're quitting (even if they think you're crazy because of it).

    This way, if the next person who they hire has similar experiences, and also complains, hopefully the higher-ups realize that something is up.

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    Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I was thinking about telling the boss (more like someone at customer service) that I apologize for not leaving a two week notice, and attempting to leave a notice along the lines of a hostile and unfriendly work environment. Not sure if that's the right way to go, but its the way out I'm going to use.

    The only thing I'm worried about is them holding onto my last paycheck and not giving it to me.

    Edit: Plus I'm starting to get a little nervous about actually calling in now. I kinda getting a feeling that I'll regret doing it. However, I just feel awkward going back after today.

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    baudattitudebaudattitude Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    So, someone at work hates you so much that they skipped right to the nuclear option, trying to get you not just fired but actually arrested. Since you're still currently a free man, they not only know that their plan did not work, but they have to realize that you found the merch they'd planted in your stuff.

    If you show up tomorrow fresh as a spring flower, with a hearty "good morning" for all your co-workers, I suspect you'll take a good year off their life, just from the frustration.

    For bonus marks, stop by a donut shop and bring in a couple dozen for everyone on your way in. :)

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    AwkAwk Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    youre in the army

    crack some skulls.

    and tell us about it

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2009
    I don't think you'll regret quitting in the slightest, but I think you really WILL regret not telling anyone why in person or on the phone so you can make sure they've heard you. You can give them a note when you tell them, or send it in once you've called, but don't just leave a note. It's kind of passive-aggressive, and you'll get far less closure than you would get from saying something to someone so that they can respond.

    Even if they laugh you out of there, which is pretty much worst-case, you'll know that you were completely in the right. There's a good chance though that if the person is this vindictive with no real reason, she's done this sort of thing before, and may have been reported the first time. If that's the case, she may face actual consequences when you report her, and they may even ask you to stay. If she's never been reported and you're the first, at least you'll be doing the next guy a favor.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Waffen wrote: »
    I was thinking about telling the boss (more like someone at customer service) that I apologize for not leaving a two week notice, and attempting to leave a notice along the lines of a hostile and unfriendly work environment. Not sure if that's the right way to go, but its the way out I'm going to use.

    The only thing I'm worried about is them holding onto my last paycheck and not giving it to me.

    Edit: Plus I'm starting to get a little nervous about actually calling in now. I kinda getting a feeling that I'll regret doing it. However, I just feel awkward going back after today.
    Definitely show up in person.

    They're required to give you your last paycheck, but you'll probably have to go in and pick it up, anyhow.

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    RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I think you're using your being in the Army and having gone through a fairly shitty (but not as terrible as BCT) time as defense against doing the right thing, which is counter to all the Army Values you've taken

    I mean sure LDRSHIP is 95% bullshit that I, and many others in the Army, would never fucking do, but sometimes it can be pretty clear-cut what you should be doing. Like right now, for instance

    You just need to have the intestinal fortitude to do so

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    RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Anyways, since you've already had the nuclear option taken on you (someone tried to get your ass arrested), I suggest doing it right back; call your company/battery commander and/or first line supervisor, explain him/her the situation (both the good and bad), and request guidance. I mean, you're in the Army mine as well enjoy it when you can right? Plus if you had gotten framed successfully you'd have to inform your commander anyways, and that conversation would've been a lot less pleasant than what it's going to be if you decide this route

    I mean the Army really doesn't tolerate its NG/Reserve guys getting shit on in its civilian side, especially something like getting arrested making you unable to get a job, causing you to not maintain operational effectiveness

    Also I guaran-fucking-tee if you call your commander/your NCO is good, you will never have to worry about your civilian job or treatment in it ever again. And honestly, you already sort of have notified your managers about the situation, and they're kind of sitting on their hands

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    you have worked your hours, you get paid

    they cannot withhold your paycheck just because you quit

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    RaneadosRaneados police apologist you shouldn't have been there, obviouslyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    also: I agree with what Rent

    call your military supervisor, explain the situation calmly and rationally, DEFINITELY include the attempted frame-up exactly as you have here and ask them for guidance.

    Even if they only care about the bottom line, they're sinking and have sunk serious cash into you and your life. They spend time with you, alongside you. They'll look out for you. They probably wouldn't take too kindly to a group of snotty teenage idiots trying to mess with theirs

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Seriously, keeping quiet about something like this is, to use a horrible military analogy, putting yourself in the line of fire for no good reason. Things like this deserve to be reported immediately, with all candor and honesty. You are doing the right thing. You are doing job, and other people are playing games, screwing around, and doing shady shit. Report it. Immediately.

    The attitude I have always taken on things like this, which has always served me well, is that if you report it, and they don't do anything (or worse, they don't take your side), then you don't want to work in a place like that anyway. You're a good employee, you get along well with others, and you do your job. Other people are fucking that up, and if the company can't see that or doesn't have the proper protocols in place to determine the truth and address the situation, then you don't want to work there. It's a waste of time dealing with stupid shit when you have an actual job to do.

    Honestly, this job doesn't seem worth it. I would just put in my two weeks notice and tell them exactly why, and then go find another job.

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    RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Yeah if it weren't for the fact that people were trying to frame your ass for stealing I'd say "Just quit"

    But because of that little anecdote you basically have to inform your chain of command

    Like, let me give you a for-instance

    For instance, let's say you're working at another job, or at the same job, right after your unit gets cut their orders for...oh let's say Afghanistan. You know that 3 months before dep date for NG/Reserve, minimum, you gotta go to Fort Hood/I think the training center in Alabama? for pre-deployment training

    Someone plants stolen merchandise in your backpack, you walk out- boom, handcuffed and thrown in jail (totally reasonable). Just for fun let's make it high-value electronics so now it's felony theft, not misdemeanor

    You get stuck in there for three days, missing your fly date (auto Article 15, possible court martial), and plus you've uniquely set yourself up so your unit hates your fucking guts

    And that is the last thing you want to have happen, believe me. Whether or not your unit likes you determines so much about how shit goes down when the shit hits the fan (I like to think because I was very passive and never did anything stupid on weekends- in other words a nice guy who didn't cause shit for his chain of command- back in garrison is what made me dodge a bullet after getting counselled six times in two weeks)- and believe me it will

    Make sure you do something about this, because if you don't your command will just look at you either disbelievingly or with a "how fucking retarded is this guy?" attitude

    You'll be immediately labelled either an idiot or a liar, and you don't want either label to stick on you

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    Waffles or whateverWaffles or whatever Previously known as, I shit you not, "Waffen" Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    I talked to my Sergeant. He was with me on the "Don't cause drama" if you plan on quitting. While he told me I'm an idiot for not reporting the jeans thing he said at this point its not worth reporting because it'll lead to investigations that'll carry over to the school year, I'll have static and noise distracting me from school, and it could possibly mess up my semester at school. Plus he said it'll look bad that I didn't report it immediately as well. Maybe hinting that I was involved all along and decided to throw my "partners in crime" on top of the life grenade.

    He also emphasized that my life was on the right track by going back to College to do ROTC and get my degree. He also said that quitting now won't really do much to me because I didn't work at Kohls long enough. Plus I rarely shop there as well, thus making it not a real loss. When I told him about my guilt trip he told me that "If you feel sick going to work because of the work environment get out. Don't bother with your two week notice. Just leave them a short and sweet message and never talk to any of those people again. He then told me to come in on Monday to drill with him since I owe him three days anyway.

    After the conversation ended he texted me saying "You can't win every battle. Consider this as a life lesson. You learned that you need to do a job that interests you. I'll see you tomorrow Specialist. Do some PT to get that stress out and I'll see you tomorrow."

    Regarding the message. I just told customer service to tell the boss that I am leaving due to unprofessional conduct by several employees. They tried to get me on the line with a manager, but I hung up before they could.

    Regarding the paycheck. I don't actually have to go in for it because they do it by direct deposit.

    Edit: Overall, quitting already has me feeling better. I felt sick this morning thinking that I might've had to go back to Kohls and work with these people. While I didn't do what most of you advised to do, the right thing. I feel that they'll get whats coming to them eventually. Perhaps by someone whose more eager to bring major changes to the store. For now I'll just drive on. Thanks all for the advise.

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    noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited November 2009
    Looks like everything got resolved to some manner, but here's a small tip if you choose to work in retail again;

    Never tell a customer you can't help them cause you're going on break/lunch/clocked out. If you're already on lunch then that's fine, but the manager was completely in the right to get mad at you for pulling that. It can be viewed as job evasion and can get you fired. Plus customers usually don't give a shit what you're supposed to be doing, only if you can help them or not.

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