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Freedom Force and the sequel with the 3rd Reich
gneGne
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Okay, I was looking for some new games with some singleplayer action for the PC. So I stumbled upon Freedom Force. Is this game any fun? Still worth buying? And shoud I go for the original (Freedom Force) or the sequel? I heard the sequel has Starforce....
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Wait, the sequel does? Shit. I've had Starforce lurking on my computer for a year and a half, then.
Anyway, I found both games fun, but certainly get the first one.
I liked them both, they were really cool games. It's like the strategy-based precursor to Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
The biggest problem with the sequel is that it feels very much like an expansion pack for the original game - there's not much different about it, but since the original gameplay was really solid, it's not that big of a drawback.
It's a shame the multiplayer never seemed to work for me. Even at launch when I went online I could only find a maximum of three or four people in the Irrational lobby.
i wish there was something new in this universe coming out. I'm such a sucker for the golden age feel.
Edit: They both have to be super cheap (if you can even find the 1st one.)
And there is a third one in the works somewhere- apparantly an action title.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
If there was ever a game that would benefit I think Freedom Force would be it. Put out a new "story arch" every six months, or whatever? Hells yes. I'd eat it up.
The game really needs some co-op and digital distribution. Hell, 3rd Reich would make for a good XBLA/VC style game.
On a side note, the only list of Starforce games that I know of is a total piece of crap because it doesn't bother listing this kind of information.
Ah, whew. Thanks.
Glop's list is outdated and only contains European information. Boycott Starforce's list is the original and is still maintained.
http://www.boycottstarforce.net/game-list/
Lack of ability to upgrade a character's stats limited how useful some characters were considerably. Endurance of 4 just didn't cut it after a while, though he seemed to have been improved in the sequel.
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And I suck. Horribly. Can't even get past the first mission you have Mentor with you.
Use scenery as weapons as much as possible.
It was more due to his slow movement speed an lack of ranged attacks. Plus later enemies basically ignore normal damage types
The game actually gets easier as you go on.
Being able to create your own character is far too abusable though, balance wise. I made a character who has a super kinetic projectile - low damage, low power, but they have maximum knockback/knockup, which could render enemies unable to attack or respond for 10-15 seconds at a time.
Whereas the original takes a series of classic comic book-style backdrops and villains, the sequel recycles some pretty tired areas, and in one case towards the end, forces you to retread the same execrable map TWICE.
I'd suggest 3rd Reich only for finally implementing the X-men style Danger Room.
Seems like with all the C&Ds that went out, everything went underground. Call me lazy, but I really didnt feel like joining 100's of yahoo groups to get the skins I wanted.
It was glorious though before the whole underground movement.
This was at least 2 years ago, if only marvel would lighten up, I'd be back all over this again.
It still burns me up that I couldn't use my three favorite characters by the end of Third Reich. They were just gone.
I noticed this on Steam for five bucks and a penny.
Has anyone been playing this recently? Because my post previous to this one is still valid. Are there any good Marvel skins freely available? Mods?
Even at $5.01 its probably worth it to pick up for the campaigns alone, but I am just wondering bout the modding scene which is most likely dead.
Not sure where I got stuck, but the game became rather hard and I always got the brain guy killed way too soon.
There's a website that lists tons of mods for FF. I can't remember the name, sorry. Try googling it.
Also, if you're ever having problems in either game, spam flyers. Man o' War and Man-Bot both learn the ability with time.
I played the demo for 3rd Reich, which I think just included the first level up to a boss who was like an opera singer or something. It seemed like the exact same game as the first so I never went ahead and purchased it. To this day I don't really feel like I missed anything.
I wouldn't say you're alone in this. There are parts of the game which seemed really tough to me, though it's been quite a number of years since I played it, and I can't remember them all clearly. But I do remember some pretty frustratingly difficult areas that I came close to cheating my way through.
One thing that I only found out later was that ranged units were drastically less accurate at any real distance, so you were actually better off using your ranged powers from melee range.
Yeah that was annoying.
It is billed as a strategy RPG for a reason. While not as fragile as Jagged Alliance and the like, many of the characters can only take a bit of damage before biting it. I basically had to bench Minuteman rather quickly because he simply couldn't last in melee without burning the limited self-heals. Not being able to upgrade base stats really hurts a lot of the cast.
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The game is fun, I'd have just appreciated a little bit better ally AI when you're not directly ordering people. But yeah, it's delightfully campy.
The strategy was at least a step up from "get somebody with super strength, throw explosives from two blocks away," but they still made some of the battles into complete tedium, especially the ones where you had to protect a single building from tanks that would spawn in random places around the map. Oops, three spawned in the same area at once, guess you'll be restarting the mission.
They really could have ended it after the WW2 part and I would have been happy. I just lost motivation to keep going after that wrapped up.
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