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WarTech: Senko no Ronde -- Impressions?
Bamelin
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I was watching some pretty cool YouTube Vids on this title and I have to say I'm really tempted to buy it.
Is there anyone here that has actually played it? Is there a decent size multiplayer community on Live? I know that the game got practically no marketing here, but it really does look like something that would appeal to me.
Any impressions? The game did horrible at IGN but I trust their reviews as far as I can throw them. Honestly the title looks like one of those quirky Japanese games that some players love, and others just don't "get".
Is there anyone here that has actually played it? Is there a decent size multiplayer community on Live? I know that the game got practically no marketing here, but it really does look like something that would appeal to me.
Any impressions? The game did horrible at IGN but I trust their reviews as far as I can throw them. Honestly the title looks like one of those quirky Japanese games that some players love, and others just don't "get".
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For what it's worth, this is one of the games that made me break down and buy an XBox 360. I am a huge fan of Psychic Force and Virtual On, the games this title draws its inspiration from.
I absolutely love the game. I didn't realize IGN had come out with their review, because I was curious as to how people will review it. 1up gave the game a horrid score (and now IGN as well) and Eurogamer praised it pretty well. However, the bad reviews have confounded me pretty well, as I just never saw their complains arrise in the game at all. The largest problem is indeed the lack of players on Xbox Live. I usually play with friends from other message boards who bought the game, but just going on Live randomly usually nets me 1 or 2 Japanese players only.
I actually don't have time right now to talk about it more until about noon-ish, but I thoroughly found it worth the $60 I spent. But as for all games: if you're unsure about your purchase, rent it first. If you can find it. The lack of publicity has also resulted in the game getting terribly small shipments.
I would've bought this in a heartbeat for say, $40, like EDF2017.
Oh well. I remember seeing videos of this years ago, back when it was only available in Japanese arcades. There was a thread about it. Cool-looking game, but without other people to play it with I can't imagine it'd be much fun.
Besides, I don't have a 360.
It certainly should have been. I had really high hopes for this game, but the inability to actually aim killed it for me.
You can't lock on. You can shoot your weapons in the general direction of the enemy, but it's more of a spray and pray technique. Fortunately, many of the secondary weapons are either seeking, or engulf a large area, so it makes up for it a little bit. It works better than it sounds, and ultimately, I think it goes along with the whole shmup portion of the gameplay. I enjoyed the game, but I think it needs to be a bit cheaper . . .
You might want to consider this
I hate you.
Heh, seriously, I have some major financial thingies this month so I'm skipping all game purchases, but next month - SO BOUGHT.
Thanks! Thats awesome.
I didn't want a lock on, I wanted to lead my target.
I will say that the bullet hell bosses are pretty cool, even if they do feel a little out of place.
I think to generally say "You can't aim," is a bit exagerrated. It's true, most of the techniques aren't things you aim, but rather spread, but it's not without it's technique. Putting that aside for the moment, there are a good amount of attacks you do aim. Each character's Primary have different accuracies on them, with some being more accurate than others (Mika and Karel are pretty good). Chances are you're never going to hit anyone by standing still and using the primary weapon constantly, though. There is enough distance so that if you begin firing, your opponent will just dash to the side as you keep shooting in that position until the attack finishes. Dash attacking has you aim at your enemy when you fire, and if you dash parallel with your enemy's dash, you'll probably hit the entire time.
You're going to need to learn your enemy's movements to find out when their open if you want to hit with the more "accurate" attacks. Many characters also have Barrage moves that you can aim, such as Sakurako, Lili and Karel. You repeatedly fire and can freely aim your gun around to shoot wherever it is you want. You'll find that it isn't very easy, though, unless you learn to how to use your weapons to trap the enemy.
The majority of the moves are moves that are spread attacks that fill the screen with bullets. However, you have to learn how to use them in combination with each other to hit the enemy. If you can trap the enemy with a good screen of bullets, it becomes significantly easier to hit with "accurate" attack. Of course, it requires different strategies with each character. Mika has some pretty good Barrage attacks and both his Primary and Secondary attacks are both pretty accurate in their aim. So you can launch your Secondary pods to the side, where they will hover in place and fire homing missiles as you run off and fight. Afterwards, try the Full Cirle -> Barrage attack followed by a Dash-Primary or just a nuetral primary, and your opponent will have to dodge or navigate the Barrage attack, but as he's doing that, he'll also have to deal with the homing missiles coming from behind, and at the same time you are pressuring his movements with your primary fire.
The afforementioned aimable Barrage attacks do let you lead your enemy, but you'll find that isn't as effective as you'd hope. The enemy can just dodge in the opposite direction. You also have to keep in mind that when you dash, you're given 1-2 seconds of dash movement, during with you can freely switch into direction you want, or just stop completely. You shoot ahead of them to the left, they'll just dash right. That's why learning how to use these Barrage/Bullet-Hell attacks are more effective than having the ability to freely aim a small stream of bullets.
I mean, it really does share a lot in common with Virtual On gameplay-wise. And all of these spread attacks that everyone has do a good job at hitting the enemy. What you see in the YouTube match videos is exactly what it is: it's fast and furious, and you're probably going to get hit all the time. If you can't hit anyone, you just need practice to learn how to use your attacks.
tl;dr: Aiming attacks are in there, but the ability to lead your fire doesn't help much by itself. The barrage attacks are pretty efficient and work well, you just have learn how to use them. If the match videos look interesting, try and give this game a shot. But since everyone seems pretty divided on it, a rent is suggested if you're unsure.