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No-spoiler safe game sequels

DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
edited December 2012 in Help / Advice Forum
Could ya'll help me out and tell me which of these games are safe to play

where "safe" - means there are no major spoilers for previous titles in the series

and "play" - means giving the game a basic spin (likely less than an hour's worth, playing through an introductory sequence or tutorial up until the game opens up, just to get a sense of the look and feel of the game)

That is to say, some sequels are prequels, some are just new/different adventures not particularly linked to events of the first games, etc etc.

Again it's important to note this is only really dealing with the opening hour or so. If there are major spoilers or references beyond that, it's still safe. If the spoilers are contained within intro FMV or cutscenes, but the first hour or so of GAMEPLAY is still safe, then it's safe. (FMV's and cutscense can be skipped or avoided until the gameplay starts)

Assassin’s Creed 2
Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood
Assassin’s Creed Revelations
Bioshock 2
Darksiders 2
Dead Space 2
Devil May Cry 4 (DMC1 completed)
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
God of War 3
God of War Chains of Olympus
God of War Ghost of Sparta
Halo 3 (Halo1 completed)
Halo ODST
Halo Reach
Halo 4
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3
Metal Gear Solid 4 (MGS1 completed)
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker (MGS1 completed)
Uncharted 2
Uncharted 3

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    Disclaimer: it's been some time since I played each of these so my memory is hazy. Hard to remember this kind of stuff.

    Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 I do believe they are both spoiler-free within at the very least the first hour or so, but IIRC each one stands almost completely by itself and none of them make reference to each other.

    God of War 3 is not safe to play. Pretty certain major details of the previous game(s) are recapped within the first few minutes.

    Final Fantasy X-2 is not safe. It stands entirely on the shoulders of the game before. It's been a very long time since I was around this game, but based on the plot alone I think it's fair to say that no, it's not safe to play. It may not even be safe to read the back of the case.

    Assassin's Creed 2 is not safe to play. It begins right where the first ends and events are explained.

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  • SkeithSkeith Registered User regular
    The Mass Effect games aren't safe.

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  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    I would be kind of amazed if Mass Effect 2 or Mass Effect 3 didn't have spoilers in the first hour... I can confirm, from having played it a little this week, that ME3 definitely has spoilers that early. HOWEVER. ME3's multiplayer seems to be entirely seperate from the story, at least from what I've played of it (about an hour, so that's within your range).

    I thiiiink MGS4 doesn't have unskippable spoilers at the beginning... maybe? It's been a long time since I played it. If there are spoilers, I don't think they were obvious as spoilers to someone who hasn't played the previous games (because I hadn't, I am ashamed to say). I seem to remember there's stuff that I would consider spoilery a couple hours in though.

  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Peace Walker is a prequel, and should be safe for the MGS games with Solid Snake as the main character (MGS1, 2, 4). It DOES have spoilers for MGS3, which it takes place AFTER.

    Final Fantasy XIII-2 is just like Final Fantasy X-2, in that it relies on the first game.

    Halo 3 relies on Halo 2.

    The Assassins Creed series goes 1->2->Brotherhood->Revelations->3. It is assumed you know what's up in the previous games. You can safely skip 1 though, because quite honestly 1 is worse in every way, and 2 explains everything you need to know right up front.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    When you say relies on or follows, does that mean direct references to plot points of prior games in the first hour? I'm aware lots of these build on the plots established by other games, but then I also know that doesn't necessarily mean big unavoidable spoilers for them immediately either.

    I think of Halo 2 and to the best of my memory all that's really established in the first bit is that Master Chief is going to fight some more Covenant. Maybe there is more going on but I think it was easy to tune out, and shut if off before it got into the meat of a new story.

  • ElinElin Registered User regular
    I'm pretty positive that Final Fantasy X-2 and Bioshock 2 both start out with movies on the previous games' endings.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited December 2012
    I was just now fairly successful with all the God of Wars and both Uncharteds, as far as I can tell. Just skipped the plot FMVs in the case of the latter, and averted eyes and muted the former. I suspect I can get away with doing that for most of these. Onto the next!

    edit: the tricky ones I guess I'm wary of sorta recap or play their cutscenes through the initial gameplay, rather than before it.

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Skeith wrote: »
    The Mass Effect games aren't safe.

    Especially Mass Effect 2, 15min or so in there is a "Hey remember these key plot points and surprises in Mass Effect?" conversation.

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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    just did FF XIII-2. Not recommended, haha. Near constant stuff I had to mute and skip past. Just played some battles. At least picked up a single trophy, before shelving it

  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    I was just now fairly successful with all the God of Wars and both Uncharteds, as far as I can tell. Just skipped the plot FMVs in the case of the latter, and averted eyes and muted the former. I suspect I can get away with doing that for most of these. Onto the next!

    edit: the tricky ones I guess I'm wary of sorta recap or play their cutscenes through the initial gameplay, rather than before it.

    In that case AC2 is definitely a bad one. There's dialogue about previous events as you're progressing.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON IndiaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2012
    Dead Space 2 is riddled with spoilers for one key plot point all throughout and for other plot points near the beginning at least and possibly throughout the rest of the game.

    edit: Some of these games are only as good as, or even worse, than their predecessors by most accounts (Darksiders 2, Bioshock 2, Dead Space 2, God of War 3, Devil May Cry 4, and IMHO Mass Effect 2) so you should really just play the first game too.

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  • Page-Page- Registered User regular
    The DMC games are pretty much standalone, and DMC4 won't even have Dante around for the first few hours, outside of a boss fight. You play a completely new character in a completely new setting fighting completely new enemies.

    Final Fantasy X2 kind of depends, since both it and Final Fantasy X have multiple endings. There's kind-of a sort-of spoiler for a possible Final Fantasy X ending within the first couple of hours of the game, but, really, it's not much more of a spoiler than if you just looked at the cast of characters who are in X2 versus the ones in X.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    halo reach and ODST are safe

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  • The_MadHatter_The_MadHatter_ Registered User regular
    I'm fairly certain Bioshock 2 is actually safe. Through audio recordings you may uncover some details about the story of the city itself that you didn't know or may impact the plot of the first one, no real direct relation between the plot of either. All the audio recordings are optional anyway. But I still suggest playing the number one first.

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    I'm fairly certain Bioshock 2 is actually safe. Through audio recordings you may uncover some details about the story of the city itself that you didn't know or may impact the plot of the first one, no real direct relation between the plot of either. All the audio recordings are optional anyway. But I still suggest playing the number one first.

    Yeah Bioshock 2 is more or less a side story and doesn't depend on the first games story all that much out side of a few familiar names. But considering Bioshock 1 can be found on the cheap you'd be doing yourself a diservice not to play the first.

    Borderlands 2 could be safe-ish. Other than what was in the vault in the first game and who a few of the major NPCs are its pretty stand alone. There are a few moments that could be gut punches if you played the first game and the characters involved were your main. But in reality its a game about loot, booze, Moxxi's rocking boobage, and wondering if you can find a gun thats more awesome than your last gun that ate lightning and shat thunder.

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    can i ask, um, why you are doing this? would it not simply be easier to playthe first games, well, first?

  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    The intent is to play through series in sequence. But not at the cost of not having any real experience with some of gaming's best for years after the initial release. You'll notice pretty much every one of these games lacks a demo, too.

  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    well, the first hour of a game is 99% of the time not going to give you the best experience that game has to offer. in many cases, you're going to be stuck in tutorial mode etc.

    so by the time you're getting 'real experience with some of gaming's best' - the real experience is at least a couple hours in, if not more, and by that time, with few exceptions, even safe games will have spoilery references to events in the previous titles.

    also, the first games in the series are dirt cheap by now, especially during steam/holiday sales. for me, if i can buy a game for less than a grande mocha at starbucks, then i'm not too upset about there being no demo.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Deusfaux wrote: »
    The intent is to play through series in sequence. But not at the cost of not having any real experience with some of gaming's best for years after the initial release. You'll notice pretty much every one of these games lacks a demo, too.

    Well, I'll save you some time and tell you that AC1 isn't really worth playing at this point. AC2 tells you what you need to know and you won't have to deal with the frustrating mechanics from AC1.

    Beyond that, Halo ODST is pretty safe (it's a side-story for Halo 3, FWIW) and Halo Reach is totally safe since it's a prequel. A lot of the other games on your list are either spoiler unsafe or just won't make much sense if you haven't played the first one.

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    i dunno, while AC1's gameplay definitely isn't as refined as in the later games, none of the sequels has captured the melting pot atmosphere that it had. every sequel since has had more of a monoculture.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    This sounds like a quixotic quest to me. But here are my comments on your list, based on your stated goals:
    * Assassin’s Creed 2 - Start with this game. AC1 can be skipped/watched on YouTube.
    * Bioshock 2 - Play Bioshock 1 first. Only play this game if you loved Bioshock and want more of it.
    * Darksiders 2 - Almost a completely different experience from the first Darksiders. You can probably play this by itself without experiencing Darksiders 1, as long as you realize that the two games are different in tone and style. They barely overlap, in terms of story.
    * Dead Space 2 - Play Dead Space 1 first. Dead Space 2 is like Bioshock 2, in that it's just more of the same.
    * Devil May Cry 4 (DMC1 completed) - Safe to play on its own.
    * Final Fantasy X-2 - Completely different from Final Fantasy X. Probably safe to play by itself with no experience of FF-X.
    * Final Fantasy XIII-2 - Continuation of the story from FF XIII. Should probably play FF XIII first.
    * God of War - Should probably play these games in sequence.
    * Mass Effect - While the trilogy is meant to be played in sequence (some aspects of the saves carry over from game to game), the first game is markedly different than the 2nd and 3rd games (goddamn Mako sections), and shit doesn't get real until the 2nd game anyway. If I were to do it all over again, I would have skipped out on the first game, then played ME 2 and ME 3 in sequence. If you are playing the games just to get an "experience" of them, though, you should "experience" a few hours of ME 1, just to see how it is. Play your way to the point where you land on planets with the Mako, then you'll get the gist of the game and its horrible inventory system.
    * Metal Gear Solid 4 (MGS1 completed) - This almost requires you to have played all Metal Gear games prior to it, at least to truly appreciate it. I'd not play this game until you completed MGS 2 and MGS 3, minimum. The gameplay is more refined than the prior games, but you will want to play this in sequence.
    * Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker (MGS1 completed) - Very minor spoilers, but can be played as a standalone. It barely influences/is influenced story-wise by the other MGS games. Also the most fun Metal Gear game ever made, in my opinion, especially in co-op.
    * Uncharted - Very minor story elements are carried over in between each game. They are just about as related as the Indiana Jones movies are related (as in, not much at all). You can play each game on its own. The gameplay of 2 and 3 are pretty much identical, and both have outstanding set-pieces that you'll have to play all the way through to experience.

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    Far Cry 2
    Far Cry 3
    Deus Ex 2 (To be avoided as it shows how bad things can go when making a PC game on a console)
    Deus Ex 3
    NOLF 2
    Serious Sam 2

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