Apparently according to Digitimes Intel price cuts are on the way for both the dual and quad lines, and some slight product repositioning.
Quad Cores
Q9650 will be $530
Q9550 will be $316 (8.5 multi).
Q9450 will be phased out and replaced with Q9400 at $266 (6mb cache instead of 12)
Q9300 and Q6700 will phased out
Q6600 will be $203
Dual Cores
E8300 will be phased out
E8600 will launch priced at $266
E8500 will be $183
E8400 will be $163
E7300 will launch priced at $133
E7200 will be $113
Stolen from Quicksilver on the Anandtech forums, but figured an update would be nice here too. It sucks to wait for Q3, but hopefully it ends up being early July. Upgrading for AoC, a slick new Quad and the new video cards would be a great way to do it.
I'm probably lying.
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Good thing I will have a couple systems to sell though.
Early Nehalem will be ridiculously overpriced as they will debut with the extreme chips; unless you can afford a $1000 cpu, it's seriously doubtful that the mainstream Nehalem chips will be out before Q2 2009 at any reasonable price. Still, if rumors are true they will be monstrous...
I've heard there will be serious issues with OC'ing nehalem chips. But that might be adjusted by motherboard manufacturers. Nehalem from all the rumors I've heard should rock pretty hard. I'm very pleased enough with my E8400 currently though. Its a sweet chip. It should last a while.
If the Nehalems live up to expectations there probably won't be a use in OCing anymore. Unless you want a bigger epeen.
Do you have links to the different socket type? I *HATE* different socket types on systems. Especially when its some bullshit reason like "special extreme overclocking"
I'm not sure if there is any official documentation concerning the different socket types, but it's looking like Intel is trying to force 'enthusiasts' to pay a premium for an overclockable platform. Whether it will be worth the additional cost or not is to be determined, but it's looking pretty painful at the moment. Gone might be the days of picking up ludicrously cheap processors and overclocking them higher than extreme chips, but I suppose we'll find out more about it in a year or so.
AMD might use that as an opening. Fuck knows they need it.
I'm not sure oc'ing will even matter with the nehalem as others have stated. It sounded like you had to take voltage points off the motherboard, actually calculate Vdroop and learn to adjust a metric ton of new settings to OC.
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7255&Itemid=35
Ya, that PLL correcting function will be hard to work around. Again it might not matter at all. 8 cores and 16 threads on some of the nehalem chips.
I think the issue is here that OC'ing might be pointless at 8 cores. What is any reasonable average user going to do with 8 cores?
Well, it's not like you can overclock yourself some more cores. You could buy a slower 8-core chip and clock it up to the speeds that an equivalently-priced 4-core chip gets.
People are going to start using more and more cores for programs; we're approaching the limits in speed that we can get a single core at. (The fact that modern x86 processors need to carry around legacy baggage to stay compatable with code from the early eighties isn't helping, of course).
Well, as I understood it- They all are moving over. It it has a new socket, there won't be a memory controller on the motherboard anymore. Getting rid of the northbridge chipset should prove quite interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28microarchitecture%29
This will be crazy fast.
"Due to its early release and market segment, Intel stated at IDF that only the high-end Bloomfields may have an integrated memory controller, leaving the "lower" end ones without it;[11] however, other sources have said that all Nehalem variants will have an integrated memory controller."
That might be utter garbage if some motherboards do and some don't. It might be a case that some of the lower end chips will have "lesser" memory controller.
I don't see why they would omit the memory controller from certain parts. I can't think of any practical reason to do so, and it isn't like integrated memory controllers are new ground that might justify leaving them out of lower end processors. AMD has been using them since 2003 (when the Athlon 64 was introduced).