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Oracle buys Sun...
Just_Bri_Thanks
Seething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
Seething with ragefrom a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
...and all it's stuff to the tune of 7.4 beeeeelion dollars. *pinky-smirk*
Biggest conjecture out of the deal so far is that Oracle will quietly kill MySQL.
Here is a link to a recored conference call talking about the deal. (I got the link from Groklaw.) You have to register to listen to the recording.
Over in the newspicks section, there is good news to balance out the bad for MySQL users: If Oracle does kill off MySQL there is already an established fork named MariaDB.
Any thoughts from you folks managing the 'big iron'?
Biggest conjecture out of the deal so far is that Oracle will quietly kill MySQL.
Here is a link to a recored conference call talking about the deal. (I got the link from Groklaw.) You have to register to listen to the recording.
Over in the newspicks section, there is good news to balance out the bad for MySQL users: If Oracle does kill off MySQL there is already an established fork named MariaDB.
Any thoughts from you folks managing the 'big iron'?
...and when you are done with that; take a folding
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
I swear, I hate every single person involved with that ungodly "support" monstrosity.
Now whether it deserves to or not, that's another debate. Postgres is a very good database these days, and MySQL uncertainty may be the best thing to have ever happened to Postgres.
I put a link in the OP.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
I used PostreSQL for an electronic inventory tracking system, and was very pleasantly surprised by it. :^:
Because every CTO seems to think they shit gold, and leave grunts to use their shitty apps, or deal with their shitty BPO, or their shitty contractors.
What features could you possibly want that neither Oracle or MySQL have? They're like the dumping ground for database features.
Seconded, particularly with all the extra plug-in support you have for each to Java, etc.
PSN: TheScrublet
Man, Oracle's problem is that it has so many included and optional features that it's a bitch to properly configure and maintain.
Case in point: Peoplesoft
Peoplesoft is not fit for human use.
Edit: The concept behind Peoplesoft is sound, but the UI is about as retarded a box of incontinent monkeys.
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Honestly, I'm not sure which company I'd be happier with out of IBM or Oracle (not that it matters now). As someone who deals with products from all 3 companies on a daily basis (Oracle, Websphere, Java), this has been pretty interesting to watch.
Also, I just realized I might be the most boring person I know.
I'm almost completely limited to user-case in Peoplesoft...but is this a flaw on Oracle/SQL, or just Peoplesoft shittiness?
PSN: TheScrublet
In any case, they can't kill MySQL outright, since it's open source. All they would do by halting support for it is cutting off a source of revenue.
It's a running joke at my work.
I am going to print off that last sentence and put it up in my office. The university I work for uses PS for their student database, financials, HR and (o god) our portal. We'd have been better off making the entire portal in Word 07 and saving it to HTML.
I haven't followed the conquests of Oracle well. Do they have a history of fucking shit up? I know PeopleSoft sucked before they got it and it hasn't stopped sucking or changed the way it sucks . . . yet.
I understand it's got a tall order to fill, with the whole cross-platform bytecode thing, but Java has always felt like it's being held back by Sun. Wacky versioning under Linux causes a heap of confusion for the users I support, and their updater under Windows drives me nuts.
No, I do not want to install openoffice you jackasses. Stop prompting me for it.
How much sense does that make?
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
Java as a language is fine. It is one of the best languages for building enterprise software if you have developers with a wide range of skills/experience. As a language, it is simple and powerful, and for the most part prevents you from doing weird things that can make your life (and other people's lives) a living hell. There is a reason why it is so prevalent in business.
However, because of these features, the language spec has become difficult to change, and it's starting to show its old age. You can't change it too much because it will get more complex (and all your low-mid-level programmers will need to be trained again). Meanwhile, newer languages with powerful features are passing it by. Some of these are languages that run on Java's own JVM.
Which brings me to an important point. The JVM is a work of art. You mean I can compile my code once and have it run on almost any platform known to man? Yes. It will handle memory management, threading, native file access all in a consistent way? Yes. That same JVM will automatically compile my code to native code without me needing to change anything? Fuck yes. There are probably over a hundred new languages that run on the JVM, and they all share these benefits. More than that, a lot of them have full interoperability with Java libraries. The JVM might (unintentionally?) be the single greatest thing that Sun has ever made.
Anyway, enough rambling. I agree with your point about the Java updater though. Annoying as hell.
The only thing I could see dying a slow death is SPARC support but, who knows, it's way too early to tell anything at this point.
B.net: Kusanku
PostrgreSQL is what you want to compare with Oracle, not MySQL.
Yeah, but PostgreSQL doesn't fit into the whole Oracle/Sun thing. MySQL does.
http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-welcomes-gpl-java.html
chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
I've lived through two acquisitions, and in those experiences, the bigger company never notices any changes.
The smaller company gets absolutely raped up the ass though. First thing that happens is you get a visit from your new CEO promising that it will be "business as usual" and "nothing will change". Then the execs who got huge payouts for the merger disappear, and management starts getting moved around. New management from the parent company shows up and starts evaluating how to integrate services.
Then a round of layoffs gets announced, and half your co-workers are gone. Anyone left gets absorbed into the parent company in new roles.
Most acquisitions are to acquire a brand or customer base.. it is very rarely about actually trying to save the company being purchased.