I have no idea what a clarity potion is. Is this one of your bizarro DOTA words?
... Google tells me it's a mana potion. Why not just call it that anyway? It actually describes what it does. The guide I was reading said, "Eat a clarity and check for runes." I assumed there was an item I'd overlooked, some sort of "clarity biscuit" which let you see where the runes had spawned.
Clairvoyance biscuits. Delicious.
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24 second CD on Codex? Really? Why does this seem OK? Maybe in a 5v5 game this isn't a problem, but I just played a 3v3 game where the enemy team got outlaned, outganked, but still won because every single one of them got lvl 5 codex. Even when my team had headdress, stuns, and 2000 health they could pick off one of us right away without breaking a sweat, and then do it again before we respawned.
Most heroes will be wanting IAS to make use of it, though. Or they've already got decent attack speed and just want damage. Or they're support. If you look at DotA the only heroes you always see it on fill those roles, like Necro'lic, who has summons who make use of the negative armour and a built in steroids skill. Or Furion, who's more gank/support. But he's better off getting other stuff. Decent on Soulstealer/Nevermore, but his true potential is in his ult, and if he spends money on such a heavy damage item he'll be too immobile and fragile to ever get it off.
But if orbs work differently in HoN then it's probably much better. A lot of heroes who could have used it in DotA already have better orbs.
Most heroes will be wanting IAS to make use of it, though. Or they've already got decent attack speed and just want damage. Or they're support. If you look at DotA the only heroes you always see it on fill those roles, like Necro'lic, who has summons who make use of the negative armour and a built in steroids skill. Or Furion, who's more gank/support. But he's better off getting other stuff. Decent on Soulstealer/Nevermore, but his true potential is in his ult, and if he spends money on such a heavy damage item he'll be too immobile and fragile to ever get it off.
But if orbs work differently in HoN then it's probably much better. A lot of heroes who could have used it in DotA already have better orbs.
I loved deso on Gondar, now shield breaker on Scout is fairly broken imho. I would always get deso with Troll, but as you said above he came with built in attack speed.
Now though shieldbreaker does not contain an attack modifier (an orb from dota), this allows it to stack with Life steal which also does not count as an attack modifier.
24 second CD on Codex? Really? Why does this seem OK? Maybe in a 5v5 game this isn't a problem, but I just played a 3v3 game where the enemy team got outlaned, outganked, but still won because every single one of them got lvl 5 codex. Even when my team had headdress, stuns, and 2000 health they could pick off one of us right away without breaking a sweat, and then do it again before we respawned.
The 24 second CD on the Codex is the exact same as the 24 second CD on the dagon from Dota. You can get the Shaman's Headdress to help reduce the magic damage. At that point you would just need to hold back until your tank could take a nuking from all three of them.
Any one else here love the Dagon 5 on Tinker in dota? Or dagon 5 Lion in dota? I loved running up to people with lion and casting finger then dagon for the instant kill.
The dagon's cooldown and mana usage also decreases with every level. Its most famous gimmick is being used right after Maledict (Voodoo Jester's debuff)
Never get shield breaker for any hero range or melee. ( there are much better item than that.... in a team game of course )
unless your playing 1 vs 1 shield breaker is ok in some instance.
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Shield Breaker is almost always the best DPS item, especially because of the way orbs work in HoN compared to DotA.
This. I shieldbreaker so much.
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One day I will learn the meaning of retreat. Maybe when the game exits beta and I can start with a fresh state, making it worth trying to look after stats
One day I will learn the meaning of retreat. Maybe when the game exits beta and I can start with a fresh state, making it worth trying to look after stats
I wasn't under the impression they were resetting stats.
Assassin Shroud needs a 3 second cooldown like Portal Key, so that you can't use it if you're being hit by an enemy hero. This is only fair, considering it's short cooldown, movement speed bonus, and extra attack damage out of stealth.
Assassin Shroud needs a 3 second cooldown like Portal Key, so that you can't use it if you're being hit by an enemy hero. This is only fair, considering it's short cooldown, movement speed bonus, and extra attack damage out of stealth.
The difference between the Portal Key and the Shroud is that the first is mostly uncounterable by a single hero, while the second you can easily counter with dust/wards and a myriad of abilities so basically no.
Assassin Shroud needs a 3 second cooldown like Portal Key, so that you can't use it if you're being hit by an enemy hero. This is only fair, considering it's short cooldown, movement speed bonus, and extra attack damage out of stealth.
Tried Scout yesterday, I like being able to quick escape and the super ganking potential he has. Though someone was bitching about kill stealing, so I let him attempt to kill someone then he died and I finished off his opponent and he still bitched about kill stealing? People are dumb.
Tried Scout yesterday, I like being able to quick escape and the super ganking potential he has. Though someone was bitching about kill stealing, so I let him attempt to kill someone then he died and I finished off his opponent and he still bitched about kill stealing? People are dumb.
I'm on the fence as to whether or not the new scout is overpowered.
The dagon's cooldown and mana usage also decreases with every level. Its most famous gimmick is being used right after Maledict (Voodoo Jester's debuff)
Or (in dota) getting it with TB, fighting rosh till way low, then ulting and dagoning in their woods.
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The dagon's cooldown and mana usage also decreases with every level. Its most famous gimmick is being used right after Maledict (Voodoo Jester's debuff)
Or (in dota) getting it with TB, fighting rosh till way low, then ulting and dagoning in their woods.
In my experience with TB, there is little space between "not being hit at all" and "dead."
Tried Scout yesterday, I like being able to quick escape and the super ganking potential he has. Though someone was bitching about kill stealing, so I let him attempt to kill someone then he died and I finished off his opponent and he still bitched about kill stealing? People are dumb.
I'm on the fence as to whether or not the new scout is overpowered.
He is at least very good, which is nice, because he was pretty much a wasted slot before.
Tried Scout yesterday, I like being able to quick escape and the super ganking potential he has. Though someone was bitching about kill stealing, so I let him attempt to kill someone then he died and I finished off his opponent and he still bitched about kill stealing? People are dumb.
I'm on the fence as to whether or not the new scout is overpowered.
He is overpowered to me. Of course, so many noobs play scout that its easy to say he sucks because they are hopeless players but...
And he makes nighthound practically useless as a carry over him. His disarm needs an internal cooldown at least.
Also, Scout is pretty overpowered right now. It is the only time that I have ever gone 20-0-6. Granted... the other team was horrible beyond words.
I've used scout a few times since the patch, and I wouldn't really say hes overpowered. He can't just roll up on any hero and expect to win. But when fighting melee heroes, hes a beast. Heroes like Predator or Madman would be wise to not fight a good Scout now that he has Disarm. Combine Disarm with a Basher and he's pretty nasty. But once hes blown his load he's kinda meh. Like any carry, you just have to gank him early and often.
Casters still give him trouble, and if your team is smart they'd get a gem or pestilence to counter scout.
Also I've found out that I love Succubus more than any character. Ever... for now.
I love succubus with Puzzle box, or Bane with necronomicon from dota,
mez your target, summon your minions, cast hold while your summons lay a smack down, then finish up with heartache. The minions are super helpful with true sight as well.
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Also, reading some TB guides. WTF does "eat a clarity" mean?
left click your tango
left click your clarity potion
also magebane sucks because Autoattack!!!!
... Google tells me it's a mana potion. Why not just call it that anyway? It actually describes what it does. The guide I was reading said, "Eat a clarity and check for runes." I assumed there was an item I'd overlooked, some sort of "clarity biscuit" which let you see where the runes had spawned.
Clairvoyance biscuits. Delicious.
no idea what it's called in hon
unless your playing 1 vs 1 shield breaker is ok in some instance.
Shield breaker is a really good item . . . on a bunch of heroes that haven't been ported to HoN.
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Wait, what about soulstealer? He is Nevermore I think.
Shield Breaker is almost always the best DPS item, especially because of the way orbs work in HoN compared to DotA.
But if orbs work differently in HoN then it's probably much better. A lot of heroes who could have used it in DotA already have better orbs.
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I loved deso on Gondar, now shield breaker on Scout is fairly broken imho. I would always get deso with Troll, but as you said above he came with built in attack speed.
Now though shieldbreaker does not contain an attack modifier (an orb from dota), this allows it to stack with Life steal which also does not count as an attack modifier.
The 24 second CD on the Codex is the exact same as the 24 second CD on the dagon from Dota. You can get the Shaman's Headdress to help reduce the magic damage. At that point you would just need to hold back until your tank could take a nuking from all three of them.
Any one else here love the Dagon 5 on Tinker in dota? Or dagon 5 Lion in dota? I loved running up to people with lion and casting finger then dagon for the instant kill.
um... it means exactly what I said it means? orb is to dota AS attack modifier is to HoN
We used to do team dagon stuff against pubs in dota. That was a blast. (no pun intended)
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I wasn't under the impression they were resetting stats.
The difference between the Portal Key and the Shroud is that the first is mostly uncounterable by a single hero, while the second you can easily counter with dust/wards and a myriad of abilities so basically no.
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I'm on the fence as to whether or not the new scout is overpowered.
Or (in dota) getting it with TB, fighting rosh till way low, then ulting and dagoning in their woods.
Hamlet will be Hamlet
An ineffable tragedy of the human spirit that still resonates, even today.
In my experience with TB, there is little space between "not being hit at all" and "dead."
He is at least very good, which is nice, because he was pretty much a wasted slot before.
Its a build for pubs. you just kinda assume you're better and faster than those you're up against.
Hamlet will be Hamlet
An ineffable tragedy of the human spirit that still resonates, even today.
He is overpowered to me. Of course, so many noobs play scout that its easy to say he sucks because they are hopeless players but...
And he makes nighthound practically useless as a carry over him. His disarm needs an internal cooldown at least.
Also I've found out that I love Succubus more than any character. Ever... for now.
Terrorblade.
Also, Scout is pretty overpowered right now. It is the only time that I have ever gone 20-0-6. Granted... the other team was horrible beyond words.
I've used scout a few times since the patch, and I wouldn't really say hes overpowered. He can't just roll up on any hero and expect to win. But when fighting melee heroes, hes a beast. Heroes like Predator or Madman would be wise to not fight a good Scout now that he has Disarm. Combine Disarm with a Basher and he's pretty nasty. But once hes blown his load he's kinda meh. Like any carry, you just have to gank him early and often.
Casters still give him trouble, and if your team is smart they'd get a gem or pestilence to counter scout.
I love succubus with Puzzle box, or Bane with necronomicon from dota,
mez your target, summon your minions, cast hold while your summons lay a smack down, then finish up with heartache. The minions are super helpful with true sight as well.