Oh man I wasnt really getting into Regular Show. But then I about died watching The Power. That was such a great episode and if they do more of that I am defienitly a fan.
And then rest of you better watch out! Or you will get some hambonin'!
Limited animation was originally founded as an artistic device, though it was soon used widely as a cost-cutting measure rather than an aesthetic method. The UPA studio made the first serious effort to abandon the keyframe heavy approach perfected by Disney. Their first effort at limited animation, Gerald McBoing-Boing, won an Oscar, and it provided the impetus for this animation method to be accepted at the major Hollywood cartoon studios, including Warner Brothers and MGM. However, the real attraction of limited animation was the reduction in costs: because limited animation doesn't require as many drawings as fully keyframed animations, it is much less expensive to produce. The 1950s saw all of the major cartoon studios change their style to limited animation, to the point where painstaking detail in animation occurred only rarely.
Limited animation techniques in America were used during the 1960s and 1970s to produce a great number of inexpensive Saturday morning cartoons. Such TV series as Clutch Cargo are known for being produced on extremely low budgets, with camera tricks used in place of actual animation. Despite the low quality of the animation, the TV cartoon studios Hanna-Barbera, Jay Ward and Filmation thrived during this period. The desire of the time to emulate full animation with limited animation led to many highly apparent visual issues.
Syncro-Vox (sometimes spelled Synchro-Vox) is a filming method which combines static images with moving images, the most common effect of which is to simulate talking lips on a photograph of a celebrity or a cartoon drawing. It is one of the most extreme examples of the cost-cutting strategy of limited animation. The method was developed by cameraman Edwin "Ted" Gillette in the 1950s in order to simulate talking animals in television commercials. Gillette filed the technique on February 4, 1952, and obtained patent #2,739,505 on March 27, 1956.[1]
Because animating a mouth in synchronization with sound was difficult, Syncro-Vox was soon used as a cheap animation technique, most famously in the cartoons produced by Cambria Studios: Clutch Cargo, Space Angel, and Captain Fathom, in which actors' lips voicing the scripted dialogue were laid over the animated figures.[2]
They were that cheap. I think I prefer mouths animated by shoddy Korean animators to that.
Oh man I wasnt really getting into Regular Show. But then I about died watching The Power. That was such a great episode and if they do more of that I am defienitly a fan.
And then rest of you better watch out! Or you will get some hambonin'!
Which is a bit weird, because The Power was the first episode!
John K has some good rants on his blog about a few of those studios. I forget which studio it was now, but one of them encouraged animators to trace the characters right off the model sheets.
Even as a kid I thought the Fleischer Superman cartoons were awesome. I always hated when crap like Superfriends would come on because I knew nothing was ever going to happen.
I even remember one episode of Fantastic Four where Richards beat Magneto by making a gun out of wood, then betting Magneto he couldn't control it. Magneto over strained his powers and collapsed. To my 5 year old mind that was the cheapest shit ever, and I always hated Fantastic Four after that.
Fantastic Four has almost always been shit regardless of medium, with a few exceptions and parodies that stand as the exception to the rule. Namely Marvel 1602, where they were a little cool.
Can we blame Hanna-Barbara for shit cartoons during the 60s onward? Is that whose to blame.
HB can be really terrible but they had decently funny writing at times
and their huge crossover movies were awesome
Mr. Barbera made a comment before they started on Yogi-Bear in Space (1978) - wondering why even he couldn't stand his own companies work.
Honestly - since the 40's the US industry has never really recovered from the many mergers and economic depressions that tend to hurt animation production. What also hurts is that the animators union is not a performer based union like sag and wga are (you have to make a certain amount of money to get there healthcare benefits which means you actually have to bust your behind in order to be apart of the union)
Honestly the drop in animation quality for TV was universal... we all gripe about how crap H-B looked, but that's largely because they were so prolific and remembered. Even Warner Bros. clamped down pretty damn hard on their animators, and it's not as if they were untalented hacks. (Remember the lousy late 60s Road Runner/Speedy Gonzalez cartoons?)
Things didn't really start improving until the 80s, and even then the improvement was gradual.
What's interesting is that the switch to digital animation (drawing on computers rather than drawing on cels) has made it nigh-impossible to make a traditionally-drawn show that looks bad. Though poorly-done Flash and CGI can look pretty crap, though.
Honestly the drop in animation quality for TV was universal... we all gripe about how crap H-B looked, but that's largely because they were so prolific and remembered. Even Warner Bros. clamped down pretty damn hard on their animators, and it's not as if they were untalented hacks. (Remember the lousy late 60s Road Runner/Speedy Gonzalez cartoons?)
Things didn't really start improving until the 80s, and even then the improvement was gradual.
What's interesting is that the switch to digital animation (drawing on computers rather than drawing on cels) has made it nigh-impossible to make a traditionally-drawn show that looks bad. Though poorly-done Flash and CGI can look pretty crap, though.
Wasn't that mostly attributed to Japan though? Most shows seems to me to be either imports from Japan or outsourced there during that decade.
Honestly the drop in animation quality for TV was universal... we all gripe about how crap H-B looked, but that's largely because they were so prolific and remembered. Even Warner Bros. clamped down pretty damn hard on their animators, and it's not as if they were untalented hacks. (Remember the lousy late 60s Road Runner/Speedy Gonzalez cartoons?)
Things didn't really start improving until the 80s, and even then the improvement was gradual.
What's interesting is that the switch to digital animation (drawing on computers rather than drawing on cels) has made it nigh-impossible to make a traditionally-drawn show that looks bad. Though poorly-done Flash and CGI can look pretty crap, though.
Wasn't that mostly attributed to Japan though? Most shows seems to me to be either imports from Japan or outsourced there during that decade.
Do you mean the 80s? The anime boom didn't really hit the mainstream till the late 90s, and pretty much every animated TV show outsourced their animation to Korea starting in the late 60s.
Honestly the drop in animation quality for TV was universal... we all gripe about how crap H-B looked, but that's largely because they were so prolific and remembered. Even Warner Bros. clamped down pretty damn hard on their animators, and it's not as if they were untalented hacks. (Remember the lousy late 60s Road Runner/Speedy Gonzalez cartoons?)
Things didn't really start improving until the 80s, and even then the improvement was gradual.
What's interesting is that the switch to digital animation (drawing on computers rather than drawing on cels) has made it nigh-impossible to make a traditionally-drawn show that looks bad. Though poorly-done Flash and CGI can look pretty crap, though.
Wasn't that mostly attributed to Japan though? Most shows seems to me to be either imports from Japan or outsourced there during that decade.
Do you mean the 80s? The anime boom didn't really hit the mainstream till the late 90s, and pretty much every animated TV show outsourced their animation to Korea starting in the late 60s.
Correction, they moved to Korea starting in the mid/late 70's.
As for the anime boom - their were three major ones: mid 1960's - late 1970's, mid 90's to 2007 the latter being the longest.
Honestly the drop in animation quality for TV was universal... we all gripe about how crap H-B looked, but that's largely because they were so prolific and remembered. Even Warner Bros. clamped down pretty damn hard on their animators, and it's not as if they were untalented hacks. (Remember the lousy late 60s Road Runner/Speedy Gonzalez cartoons?)
Things didn't really start improving until the 80s, and even then the improvement was gradual.
What's interesting is that the switch to digital animation (drawing on computers rather than drawing on cels) has made it nigh-impossible to make a traditionally-drawn show that looks bad. Though poorly-done Flash and CGI can look pretty crap, though.
Wasn't that mostly attributed to Japan though? Most shows seems to me to be either imports from Japan or outsourced there during that decade.
Do you mean the 80s? The anime boom didn't really hit the mainstream till the late 90s, and pretty much every animated TV show outsourced their animation to Korea starting in the late 60s.
Correction, they moved to Korea starting in the mid/late 70's.
As for the anime boom - their were three major ones: mid 1960's - late 1970's, mid 90's to 2007 the latter being the longest.
Actually I distinctively recall seeing an ep of Scooby Doo made in 1969, and was surprised to find out in the credits it was animated in Korea (by Akom, actually).
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And then rest of you better watch out! Or you will get some hambonin'!
Most of the shit went from theaters to TV shows with an insane drop in the budget.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_animation#History
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFnLirXjjto
This is probably the worst of the lot.
but not the mouths
the mouths are just
i
how
EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HenZ4Z7w0qM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncro-Vox They were that cheap. I think I prefer mouths animated by shoddy Korean animators to that.
Which is a bit weird, because The Power was the first episode!
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the incredibles had an amazing parody of a Synchro Vox cartoon as an easter egg on the DVD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JxsZEZPkYE
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Even as a kid I thought the Fleischer Superman cartoons were awesome. I always hated when crap like Superfriends would come on because I knew nothing was ever going to happen.
I even remember one episode of Fantastic Four where Richards beat Magneto by making a gun out of wood, then betting Magneto he couldn't control it. Magneto over strained his powers and collapsed. To my 5 year old mind that was the cheapest shit ever, and I always hated Fantastic Four after that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nszz_g8EDKk
...I'd honestly be a bit surprised if the goons didn't inspire the Piantas in Super Mario Sunshine.
* I know there were comics before that, but the cartoons are easier to come by.
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can we just nominate pixar as the greatest cartoon studio ever
HB can be really terrible but they had decently funny writing at times
and their huge crossover movies were awesome
I don't think we have to.
They win by default.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EFupFkMWVc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vhzr6ASkBE
That's not even the best part! They also had an in character COMMENTARY for the cartoon! Frozone was...not pleased.
Edit: Here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R44MvXeEQw&feature=related
yeah, I was disappointed that they lacked the commentary on that vid
Mr. Barbera made a comment before they started on Yogi-Bear in Space (1978) - wondering why even he couldn't stand his own companies work.
Honestly - since the 40's the US industry has never really recovered from the many mergers and economic depressions that tend to hurt animation production. What also hurts is that the animators union is not a performer based union like sag and wga are (you have to make a certain amount of money to get there healthcare benefits which means you actually have to bust your behind in order to be apart of the union)
Things didn't really start improving until the 80s, and even then the improvement was gradual.
What's interesting is that the switch to digital animation (drawing on computers rather than drawing on cels) has made it nigh-impossible to make a traditionally-drawn show that looks bad. Though poorly-done Flash and CGI can look pretty crap, though.
Wasn't that mostly attributed to Japan though? Most shows seems to me to be either imports from Japan or outsourced there during that decade.
Do you mean the 80s? The anime boom didn't really hit the mainstream till the late 90s, and pretty much every animated TV show outsourced their animation to Korea starting in the late 60s.
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Correction, they moved to Korea starting in the mid/late 70's.
As for the anime boom - their were three major ones: mid 1960's - late 1970's, mid 90's to 2007 the latter being the longest.
this is either a very good joke or a tragic misunderstanding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRsXU4Q6a0Q
There isn't much action at all.
Actually I distinctively recall seeing an ep of Scooby Doo made in 1969, and was surprised to find out in the credits it was animated in Korea (by Akom, actually).
haha, it's fine, I couldn't find the commentary video either, else I'd have posted it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLxPTk1QEJI
Did you guys know there was a Russian version of Winnie the Pooh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuBzKV6XgvA
Pretty adorable.