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[Let's Read] Rifts: A Wide Wide World of Weirdness

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  • brentoddbrentodd Registered User
    ... It just seemed obvious to me that a Juicer would eschew mechanical trappings in favor of his/her own hyped up reflexes and strength.

    Think about it: being trapped in a walking/plodding tank that has to take the time to kneel down every time it wants to fire off a round is the opposite of what most Juicers would want to be doing with their time. ...

    That was (jokingly) my point though - getting in the power armor doesn't make them slower - it makes them faster! I get what you're saying, and agree - it's just that the rules as written are so silly that they make the opposite of sense.

  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Look, if wrapping a Buick around yourself to fight faster is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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  • lodgerlodger Registered User regular
    But... but can you even begin to imagine the awesome power of a Juicer in LEAF ARMOR?!?!?!?!111///1?

    Sorry about that.... I was just sad that no one had updated this thread in so long.

  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    I agree. I had almost forgotten about it, to be honest. Still need to get on here and add some stuff, but I find there is so little time these days.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    WE NEED MORE RIFTS.

    OR at least more Palladium sillyness.

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    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

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  • ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    I saw someone's trying to make a Rifts conversion out of Fallout: New Vegas.

    Doubt they'll ever get that off the ground, but it would be interesting, to say the least.

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  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Fallout: New Vegas isn't NEARLY broken enough for Rifts.

    Even the Deathclaws would be easy meat.

    evilthecat wrote: »
    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    No, they'd need to be bionic deathclaws with missile launchers, built-in plasma/particle beam cannons, and a jetpack... maybe two.

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  • brentoddbrentodd Registered User
    No, they'd need to be bionic deathclaws with missile launchers, built-in plasma/particle beam cannons, and a jetpack... maybe two.

    That right there is a metric fuck-ton of awesome. Is Kevin Long still alive? We need him to draw this shit.

  • Boring7Boring7 Registered User regular
    brentodd wrote:
    No, they'd need to be bionic deathclaws with missile launchers, built-in plasma/particle beam cannons, and a jetpack... maybe two.

    That right there is a metric fuck-ton of awesome. Is Kevin Long still alive? We need him to draw this shit.

    It makes me sad inside that the first freaking page of GIS "deathclaw" has Deathclaw-cock on it.

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  • Xenogear_0001Xenogear_0001 Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    So! I'm finally getting some people together for a proper campaign! I know, madness!

    So far, the group consists of a True Atlantean Headhunter, a Sea Titan Wilderness Scout who's also a Master Psychic (she rolled randomly for that last part), a purely human Operator who's essentially a mix of the guy from Breaking Bad and Gordon Freeman (ie: he's going to be kicking ze ass on a regular basis), and an obsessive compulsive Glitterboy Pilot who's going to just get along so well with the Operator in the party. All in all, a pretty conservative roster as far as the setting goes.

    Whelp, let's see if I can wrangle this broken system into something approximating workable.

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  • PACPAC Registered User
    One of the previous posts offered the hypothetical case of a Phaeton Juicer piloting Glitter Boy power armor to illustrate how the Rifts rules easily permit Level 1 characters to be God-like killing machines.

    I'll share a real world example that I still remember from years ago: A relatively new Rifts player in our old RPG group decided to run his own adventure. He instructed players to create their characters using only OCCs / RCCs from the main manual, but otherwise imposed no restrictions (i.e., skills, equipment, spells, etc. could be utilized from other Rifts supplements). His exact words were, "I think the characters from the first book should be plenty to keep the power level low."

    Big mistake.

    Players showed up with all manner of insanely powerful first-level characters. The GM (to his credit) kept rejecting one after another. When the last player finally presented his character, the GM sighed and smiled when told it was a Vagabond. Poor fool. It was a Vagabond, all right... with the following superpowers from Conversion Book:

    - Gravity manipulation
    - Growth
    - Invulnerability
    - Healing factor
    - Extraordinary physical strength

    As a hint to how off-the-charts this character was, here's a calculation for the average damage done in a single melee action by just lifting and throwing something heavy:

    Extraordinary physical strength affords an average PS of 23, but grants double the typical supernatural carrying capacity (x100 instead of x50).

    Healing factor yields an average PE of 24. Invulnerability increases PE by an average of 3, raising the PE value to 27. Growth increases your PS by 2 points per PE point (27 x 2 = 54).

    So far, base PS of 23 + bonus of 54 = 77. With double the carrying capacity this means you could carry and throw 77 x 100 lbs. = 7,700 lbs.

    Now add in gravity manipulation to further multiply your strength by 100, for a total carrying capacity of 770,000 lbs. or 385 tons.

    Assuming there are some large monsters and/or robot vehicles nearby (and when are there not, in Rifts) you could simply pick one up, throw it, and - if it equaled 385 tons - inflict an average of 11,550 MD... in a single action.

    After similarly working through the above calculation and realizing he was out of players the GM abruptly canceled his session. He never ran his adventure.



  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    "I think the characters from the first book should be plenty to keep the power level low."

    Famous last words!

    I'd say Rifts won that particular adventure.

    evilthecat wrote: »
    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

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  • skyknytskyknyt Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I cannot stop laughing (and coughing, because I am sick), over that story.

    If I die from this, put the RIFTS logo on my tombstone.

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  • piLpiL Registered User regular
    PAC wrote:
    After similarly working through the above calculation and realizing he was out of players the GM abruptly canceled his session. He never ran his adventure.
    Oddly enough, this is how just about every GURPS game I ever played went.

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Orca wrote:
    "I think the characters from the first book should be plenty to keep the power level low."

    Famous last words!

    I'd say Rifts won that particular adventure.
    Rifts wins every adventure.

    Usually through some combination of unintelligible rules gibberish and long range plasma missiles.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. On Hiatus!

    Any gamers in the Danville, PA area? PM me if you're interested in some tabletop gaming.
  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Or some new splatbook with this awesome sounding new gear you just can't wait to try out.

    evilthecat wrote: »
    "Bioware I want to suck on your teets of gamingness".

    The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Techno-Wizard Power Armor that runs on souls!

    Of Rifts players!

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. On Hiatus!

    Any gamers in the Danville, PA area? PM me if you're interested in some tabletop gaming.
  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    Did we ever do an article on the combat rules in Rifts?

    If not, it demands to be done.

    Yes, I am still angry
  • PACPAC Registered User
    While on the subject of the souls of Rifts players, an excellent website that addresses (and attempts to resolve) various issues within Rifts is Pete Overton's, Quality in Rifts:

    http://spleen.mearcair.net/rifts/rifts.htm

    The website presents a diverse collection of essays and opines, many of which prove thoughtful and humorous. IMO, it ranks among the most helpful and entertaining of online Rifts resources.

    A prolonged lack of updates, however, eventually prompted an Internet search that sadly revealed Pete's death. Hopefully his soul fares well.

  • llywelynllywelyn Registered User
    edited February 2012
    Another first time poster. Thanks for a great thread.

    Someone earlier asked about Kevin Long: he's not dead. He's working for Activision on Call of Duty.

    As for the burster scarecrow, there are places like the Library of Bletherad on Palladium that do damage to magical beings just for being there.

    And while Glitterboys needed some serious nerfing (of all the places to use a %ile table in that book, wear-and-tear on a 300 year old hand-me-down should've been at the top of the list; the pylons should have taken actions or rounds to deploy; the barrel of the guns should've needed constant repair), I don't get the hate on MDC at all. Nanotubes are made from ridiculously abundant carbon that simply need the tech to be processed (and one cheap way would be to use GM bacteria from Lone Star).

    You've got to have some common sense that the lasers punching through a pinkie aren't going to kill a guy, but get that down and you're good to go. Juicers being squishy is the balance to other characters not knowing they should have rifted in from Ninjas & Superspies.

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  • llywelynllywelyn Registered User
    edited February 2012
    Re: CJ Carella.

    I was never interested in South America at all so I never checked out those books, but he's the guy behind GURPS Imperial Rome and that was an absolute blast.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    So apparently Palladium put out a screenplay for a Rifts movie.

    Some guys decided to read it.

    Also Optimus Zed should get back on this.

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