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    an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    I wouldn't hold your breath... they're STILL selling the Go at $200...

    I've been meaning to pick up a PSP at some point to finally play my small stack of PSP exclusives so I took a quick check at Canadian prices - still $130 for a PSP, but only $170 for a 3DS. I really thought there would be an effort to clear out old tech this close to the Vita launch, but I guess this is Sony we're talking about.

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    Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I know it sounds like a terrible name - but I do love fighting games with character customizing. What else has Kung Fu Factory made?

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I know it sounds like a terrible name - but I do love fighting games with character customizing. What else has Kung Fu Factory made?

    Supremacy MMA

    Which was apparently godawful

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    Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote:
    I know it sounds like a terrible name - but I do love fighting games with character customizing. What else has Kung Fu Factory made?

    Supremacy MMA

    Which was apparently godawful

    Ah - I figured they didn't have a great fighting game background when I didn't find a wiki page for them.

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Maddoc wrote:
    GirlFight will probably garner more attention

    but SkullGirls is actually looking to be a good, mechanically sound fighting game

    DoA is a pretty solid fighting game as well but isn't free from criticism.

    Only picking on SkullGirls because I've seen plenty of attempts to segregate it from exploitation in games. Problem is, gratuitous bouncing titties are gratuitous bouncing titties. Having a woman on the art and asset team doesn't mean it's not sexually exploitative.

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    Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I think I've become impervious to the exploitation found in fighting games. Every fighting title is just chock full of bad stereotypes and you just somehow block it out - I think everyone that used to create wrestler characters from the 80's somehow ended up designing fighting games. Evil drunk Russians, Native Americans with tomahawks and headdresses, Bruce Lee guy, giant fat blob guy who attacks with gross body fluids/odors, buxom girls, super bad German guy who's totally not a you-know-what - they're so common in the genre I hardly notice as long as it's a good game.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Put me down as someone embarrased at Skullgirls rudeass titties but not enough to want to experince its high quality gameplay. I would equate it to the higher quality DoA games.

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    RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Hasn't boosted hardware sales any, but it's nice to see that my prediction of Gravity Rush being the first big release for the system in Japan is holding true.

    EDIT: Bleh. #2 means only 43k sales.

    http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-02-15/newest-genso-suikoden-gravity-rush-sell-61784-and-43462
    1 PSP Gensō Suikoden: Tsumugareshi Hyaku-nen no Toki Konami February 9 61,784 61,784
    2 PSV Gravity Daze/Gravity Rush SCE February 9 43,462 43,462 93
    3 3DS Resident Evil Revelations CAPCOM January 26 26,106 216,241 82
    4 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo December 1 23,758 1,484,507 71
    5 3DS Monster Hunter 3 G (Including Bundled Edition) CAPCOM December 10 21,318 1,232,343 81
    6 3DS Super Mario 3D Land Nintendo November 3 19,673 1,330,984 83
    7 PS3 Gran Turismo 5 Spec II SCE February 2 12,613 34,028 80
    8 PS3 Armored Core V From Software January 26 11,673 206,354 50
    9 PSV Ragnarok Odyssey GungHo Online Entertainment February 2 8,117 41,614 80
    10 Wii Just Dance Wii Nintendo October 13 7,896 534,946 67
    11 PS3 Soul Calibur V Bandai Namco Games February 2 7,519 41,847 70
    12 PSP Photo Kano Kadokawa Games February 2 7,361 41,456
    13 3DS Inazuma Eleven GO Shine/Dark Level-5 December 15 7,099 386,863 80
    14 PSP Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (PSP the Best)) CAPCOM September 22 5,955 191,808 87
    15 3DS Rhythm Kaitō R: Kōtei Napoleon no Isan Sega January 19 5,888 61,925 83
    16 Wii Wii Sports Resort (Including Edition Bundled with Wii Remote Control Plus Pack) Nintendo November 11,
    2010 5,867 867,985 75
    17 Wii Mario Kart Wii Nintendo April 10,
    2008 5,527 3,505,695 74
    18 PS3 Dragon Age II Spike February 2 5,308 25,236 85
    19 PSP VitaminX Detective B6 (Including Limited Edition) D3 Publisher February 9 5,073 5,073
    20 Wii Wii Party (Including Bundled Edition) Nintendo July 08,
    2010 4,654 2,289,196

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Kyougu wrote:
    #gamechanger!

    I really want the Vita to succeed but damn if Sony is incompetent sometimes.

    Sometimes?

    When their only strategy is to win by brute force, it kind of means that when they fail to win, they are incompetent. If I have to pull a number out of my ass (Hey! The same way SONY does things!), I'd say they're only successful maybe 50% of the time.

    I know I wouldn't ask them for betting tips.

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    I think I've become impervious to the exploitation found in fighting games. Every fighting title is just chock full of bad stereotypes and you just somehow block it out - I think everyone that used to create wrestler characters from the 80's somehow ended up designing fighting games. Evil drunk Russians, Native Americans with tomahawks and headdresses, Bruce Lee guy, giant fat blob guy who attacks with gross body fluids/odors, buxom girls, super bad German guy who's totally not a you-know-what - they're so common in the genre I hardly notice as long as it's a good game.

    Concur.

    I don't particularly care either way. However, "serious gamers on the internet" often do. I just noticed that Skullgirls seemed to be defended more often than, say, DoA.

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    Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    because unlike skullgirls, DoA knows it is shameless sex appeal, hence the two games where you just molest womenplay volleyball

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    amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    jothki wrote:
    I like flip phones simply because I can pull them out anywhere without needing to worry about breaking them when I inevitably drop them. My last phone ended up horrifically scratched but still completely functional, and my latest phone is fairly heavy-duty.

    When my friend drops their smartphone they're like "Oh no! Now I have to get the screen replaced!"

    When I drop my phone I'm like "Oh No! Now I have to bend down and pick it up."
    I dropped my smartphne, facedown, on the sidewalk a couple weeks ago. The battery cover popped off to. The screen doesn't have a single scratch on it, the battery cover looks awful.

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    LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Nothing wrong with making a game that's basically softcore porn as long as your honest about it, IMO. Things like this or the DOA Vollyball stuff is a lot less bothersome to me compared to "serious" games that cram in weird, out of place sexualization. Kind of how I don't find porn offensive, but am bothered when the female characters in a dramatic TV show are treated as sex objects first and characters second. Even then I think "fanservice" is fine as long as the women are well-rounded characters beyond their sex appeal.

    Honestly if I end up not liking this game it's going to be more likely because the gameplay has a good chance of sucking.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sony-scraps-psp-comic-service/091274
    Time has been called on the Comics section of the PSP’s PlayStation Store.

    Andriasang reports that no additional content will be added to the service after March 15th. The Comics section of PSN will disappear completely from September.

    Users will be able to access and download any existing of new comic purchases before the service is terminated. The comic reader app will also remain available until termination.

    However, after that point all purchases will become unavailable. Sony has recommended the use of its Media Go software to back up their existing comic purchases.
    If I had purchased anything from it, I would be kind of mad.

    In other news, none of my fucking D2D games have shown up as available for install on Gamefly's fucking app.

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    AllforceAllforce Registered User regular
    Maybe that Girl Fight game will at least be brutal and violent like the Fight Night or UFC games, I'm talking bruises and deep bloody cuts on the girls faces, chunks of hair missing, broken bones and bruised... *fapfapfapfapfapfapfap*

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Nothing wrong with making a game that's basically softcore porn as long as your honest about it, IMO. Things like this or the DOA Vollyball stuff is a lot less bothersome to me compared to "serious" games that cram in weird, out of place sexualization. Kind of how I don't find porn offensive, but am bothered when the female characters in a dramatic TV show are treated as sex objects first and characters second. Even then I think "fanservice" is fine as long as the women are well-rounded characters beyond their sex appeal.

    Honestly if I end up not liking this game it's going to be more likely because the gameplay has a good chance of sucking.

    This is how I feel as well. Skullgirls annoys me because the game looks solid, and thus I was expecting to take it seriously. I play DOA to have some cheap thrills and feel guilty about it later.

    Edit - I unironically liked Extreme Beach Volleyball on the oXbox.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote:
    The 3G model was just a bad, bad, bad, bad idea and nobody I've spoken to about it is even remotely interested in it.

    At best, I have heard things like "Well you can use near and the GPS even if you don't have a data plan, and I'd rather have the 3G and not need it than need the 3G and not have it"

    In short, the only people I know even possibly buying the 3G model don't plan to keep a data plan active.

    From what I've read, Japan isn't too crazy about the 3G model either.

    I thought I'd read recent quotes from Sony that said the 3G model was the better selling one in Japan, though that may have been some sort of weird spin...I'll see if I can find it.

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    RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    Allforce wrote:
    Maybe that Girl Fight game will at least be brutal and violent like the Fight Night or UFC games, I'm talking bruises and deep bloody cuts on the girls faces, chunks of hair missing, broken bones and bruised... *fapfapfapfapfapfapfap*

    This guy. This fuckin' guy.

    Made me lol for real.

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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    because unlike skullgirls, DoA knows it is shameless sex appeal, hence the two games where you just molest womenplay volleyball

    The volleyball in Extreme Beach Volleyball was actually pretty solid. Extreme Beach 2, on the other hand, is awful in every way.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    because unlike skullgirls, DoA knows it is shameless sex appeal, hence the two games where you just molest womenplay volleyball

    The volleyball in Extreme Beach Volleyball was actually a pretty solid. Extreme Beach 2, on the other hand, is awful in every way.

    Yeah. I would've preferred the camera in XBV1 was better. Otherwise, it was more-or-less pretty fun to play. I still wish it was on the BC list for the 360.

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Turkey wrote:
    Edit - I unironically liked Extreme Beach Volleyball on the oXbox.

    Me too. I still have DoAX2, but I'm afraid to play it lest people on my firendslist think less of me.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Here it is:
    GB: You have to convince people on faith that this is going to be a good thing.

    SY: Yes. A leap of faith, and extra money. So we’ve found a much higher ratio of sales for the 3G version against the Wi-Fi version for the Japanese launch, because the core gamers tend to opt for the highest model. But we are coming to see more of a one-to-one kind of sell-through in Japan. That’s how, in the US and Europe, we’ve tweaked it a little bit to sweeten the deal for the 3G SKU. Instead of keeping on saying that 3G is good for you, we added some content that people can immediately see the value of, like adding the memory card, adding free game content to download. The hardware is a bit lower now, so they’re willing to try it.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Oh, huh, I could have sworn it was the other way around, interesting.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote:
    Turkey wrote:
    Edit - I unironically liked Extreme Beach Volleyball on the oXbox.

    Me too. I still have DoAX2, but I'm afraid to play it lest people on my firendslist think less of me.

    People already think I'm scum...

    The reason I don't have or play XBV2 is that I've heard they fucked up the game part of it. I'd simply rather not have anything to do with it.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Here it is:
    GB: You have to convince people on faith that this is going to be a good thing.

    SY: Yes. A leap of faith, and extra money. So we’ve found a much higher ratio of sales for the 3G version against the Wi-Fi version for the Japanese launch, because the core gamers tend to opt for the highest model. But we are coming to see more of a one-to-one kind of sell-through in Japan. That’s how, in the US and Europe, we’ve tweaked it a little bit to sweeten the deal for the 3G SKU. Instead of keeping on saying that 3G is good for you, we added some content that people can immediately see the value of, like adding the memory card, adding free game content to download. The hardware is a bit lower now, so they’re willing to try it.

    So, because the 3G version is selling so well in Japan, they're adding incentives to U.S. buyers to pick it up?

    Uh.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Here it is:
    GB: You have to convince people on faith that this is going to be a good thing.

    SY: Yes. A leap of faith, and extra money. So we’ve found a much higher ratio of sales for the 3G version against the Wi-Fi version for the Japanese launch, because the core gamers tend to opt for the highest model. But we are coming to see more of a one-to-one kind of sell-through in Japan. That’s how, in the US and Europe, we’ve tweaked it a little bit to sweeten the deal for the 3G SKU. Instead of keeping on saying that 3G is good for you, we added some content that people can immediately see the value of, like adding the memory card, adding free game content to download. The hardware is a bit lower now, so they’re willing to try it.

    So, because the 3G version is selling so well in Japan, they're adding incentives to U.S. buyers to pick it up?

    Uh.

    Sounds like spin to me. Without numbers it means nothing.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    They're saying at launch the sales numbers were in favor of the 3G, but immediately following the launch it evened out.

    So in order to try and keep the 3G as the leading SKU, they're adding stuff to it in the Western launches.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Yeah I'm kind of confused there. The sentence after it saying "but," and trying to decipher what that means in context of the first sentence. They expected a higher ratio of sales for 3G, but people are buying in a more 1:1 ratio? That would make sense.

    EDIT: Yeah that makes sense too Maddoc.

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    Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote:
    Turkey wrote:
    Edit - I unironically liked Extreme Beach Volleyball on the oXbox.

    Me too. I still have DoAX2, but I'm afraid to play it lest people on my firendslist think less of me.

    People already think I'm scum...

    The reason I don't have or play XBV2 is that I've heard they fucked up the game part of it. I'd simply rather not have anything to do with it.

    The "butt fight" minigame, and waterslide are kind of lame. Tug o War is ok, imo the volleyball is the same as the first game, only now, you don't have to partner with Lisa all the time. Its kind of funny though, most of my time spent with the game was with poker/blackjack.

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    I'd be more interested in the Vita if it had TV out or had some sort of reverse remove play. The original PSP has lots of meaty titles, but I don't like playing longer games while on the go.

    Same with the 3DS. I'm dissapointed we didn't have a DS Player for the Wii this gen.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Speaking of Sony being terrible...

    http://www.itworld.com/it-consumerization/249784/sony-shows-power-outlets-can-control-electricity-user-device-or-source

    And to clarify, I can see the applications for it, but it being Sony just makes me assume they'll find a way to fuck me over with it.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    MuddBudd wrote:
    Speaking of Sony being terrible...

    http://www.itworld.com/it-consumerization/249784/sony-shows-power-outlets-can-control-electricity-user-device-or-source

    And to clarify, I can see the applications for it, but it being Sony just makes me assume they'll find a way to fuck me over with it.

    Oh man, and you thought data allotments for internet was bad...

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    Turkey wrote:
    I'd be more interested in the Vita if it had TV out or had some sort of reverse remove play. The original PSP has lots of meaty titles, but I don't like playing longer games while on the go.

    Same with the 3DS. I'm dissapointed we didn't have a DS Player for the Wii this gen.

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    AllforceAllforce Registered User regular
    That TV was the bane of my existence for like 2 months, wife wanted "a white TV' for our master bedroom and there's literally like 2 of them ever made. Looks like you got the other one.

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    Werewolf2000adWerewolf2000ad Suckers, I know exactly what went wrong. Registered User regular
    Another depressing thing about that Girl Fight game - One of the companies responsible bought the rights to the Microprose name.

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote:
    Maddoc wrote:
    If Sony hadn't pushed back the US release so far, I feel like they would be in a much better position.

    Why did they even do that, anyway? The impression I had initially gotten from EA was that it was supposed to be a simultaneous worldwide release.

    Right, February is a pretty ludicrous time to release hardware, since people are still recovering from Christmas.

    Though it's also tax time, when people have money they don't know what to do with, and something new and shiny looks good.

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    TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2012
    @maximumzero I'd heard about the PSP having a TV out, but I didn't think it looked good on an HD display. I also didn't know it supported normal playstation controllers. If it does, I just might grab one.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Renzo wrote:
    Allforce wrote:
    Maybe that Girl Fight game will at least be brutal and violent like the Fight Night or UFC games, I'm talking bruises and deep bloody cuts on the girls faces, chunks of hair missing, broken bones and bruised... *fapfapfapfapfapfapfap*

    This guy. This fuckin' guy.

    Made me lol for real.

    Or if Soul Calibur had chicks from the 1600s with the old styles of clothing and hairy legs and armpits.

    Also, Skullgirls gameplay looks pretty solid. With all the pace of MvC and Guilty Gear but with Mike Z at the helm, the game has anti infinites and all those ragequit inducing problems in check.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    Turkey wrote:
    @maximumzero I'd heard about the PSP having a TV out, but I didn't think it looked good on an HD display. I also didn't know it supported normal playstation controllers. If it does, I just might grab one.

    It's a tricky situation.

    To begin with, only the PSP Go supports the Dualshock 3, as it's the only PSP model to have built-in Bluetooth support.

    The PSP 3000 and 2000 both support TV-Out via a cable connected to the headphone jack area.
    The 3000 supports both 480i and 480p TVs, whereas the 2000 supports only Progressive Scan sets.

    Finally, the PSP OS and PSX titles run full-screen, but PSP software isn't scaled, so it's often in a small box on your TV. Some TVs have scaling options to fix this, though not all.

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    HyperAquaBlastHyperAquaBlast Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote:
    Everyone knows that girlfights end in kissin'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrL9z3Kvww

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