Will put a vote out then in the spirit of figuring things out a little earlier, though not adverse to long debates and last minute vote-switching either.
Figgy for becoming noticeably more active and trying to summarize/report on what's been happening. Just get the sense that your trying to aim the village, which I suppose you would be whichever side you were on, but well that's my suspicion.
Also going to be amused if somehow the SK manages to eliminate everyone while being wide out in the open, would be a first I think.
It would be a first because it would be impossible. If it gets down to 3 people (1 maj, 1 min, me) then I guarantee the other two vote for me.
I can't see a way for the SK to win once out in the open.
Will put a vote out then in the spirit of figuring things out a little earlier, though not adverse to long debates and last minute vote-switching either.
Figgy for becoming noticeably more active and trying to summarize/report on what's been happening. Just get the sense that your trying to aim the village, which I suppose you would be whichever side you were on, but well that's my suspicion.
Also going to be amused if somehow the SK manages to eliminate everyone while being wide out in the open, would be a first I think.
It would be a first because it would be impossible. If it gets down to 3 people (1 maj, 1 min, me) then I guarantee the other two vote for me.
I can't see a way for the SK to win once out in the open.
In that scenario voting for you would guarantee mafia victory since they could kill the remaining majority member and your kill is 50/50 for hitting them. Either that or host victory. But yea I suppose at that point the majority can't win unless minority and SK kill each other off, so maybe you just play for the host victory. Thinking out loud now, don't mind me, would like to see you pull it off.
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Figgy for becoming noticeably more active and trying to summarize/report on what's been happening. Just get the sense that your trying to aim the village, which I suppose you would be whichever side you were on, but well that's my suspicion.
Only thing I can really say to that is it's a combo of 1) I'm starting to "get the hang of things" and 2) this phalla seems very inactive, and I'm trying to at least be one of the few making it interesting.
I'm thinking the majority vig can only hit on even numbered days as he only killed people on day 2 and 4.
I think he got a kill day 1 as well. Majority kill on Baidol (who was targeted by both sides) and then someone killed Skull Man. I'm assuming it was our majority vig. Remember the narration said that the town drunk "started hollering at some of the muscle today" and he turned around and shot him. I'm assuming "muscle" refers to the mafia majority.
Now, for more analysis that apparently makes me look suspicious. I don't care. Someone has to do it:
Smoove Operator was inactive yesterday. Since he hasn't posted since the host called him out on it, I'm assuming he'll be inactive again tonight. I'm going to assume he is part of the vanilla majority. He might as well be dead at this point, since he won't be giving us a vote. That means four majority, four minority, and one neutral. Four unified votes today should be the minority, then? I know it shouldn't be that simple. It probably isn't.
So either SeG and Flarne are part of the remaining minority, or me and Assuran are. Or, the mafia aren't bothering trying to swing the vote today because it would be much more obvious with so few people left. And then we have nothing. Not that we had much otherwise.
FiggyFighter of the night manChampion of the sunRegistered Userregular
Was Spoit's spreadsheet public? Anyone have a link? I'm kind of tinkering with Excel myself, and I'd like to see how he set his up and what kind of info he collects.
And if I do get voted off tonight, hopefully I can just link back to this phalla whenever someone suspects me because I'm active.
!smoove
minority only has to sit back and kill us for the last two days and if obi is right about 4—5 minority then having a non vocal person makes sense to me.
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!smoove
minority only has to sit back and kill us for the last two days and if obi is right about 4—5 minority then having a non vocal person makes sense to me.
Non-vocal is one thing, but entirely inactive is going to get him killed off by the host.
!smoove
minority only has to sit back and kill us for the last two days and if obi is right about 4—5 minority then having a non vocal person makes sense to me.
Yea there's no reason to vote for smoove until he shows up since he will be dead anyway.
!smoove
minority only has to sit back and kill us for the last two days and if obi is right about 4—5 minority then having a non vocal person makes sense to me.
Non-vocal is one thing, but entirely inactive is going to get him killed off by the host.
Don't steal my thunder! I'm hoping he votes 10mins before close and validates my hunch.
!smoove
minority only has to sit back and kill us for the last two days and if obi is right about 4—5 minority then having a non vocal person makes sense to me.
Non-vocal is one thing, but entirely inactive is going to get him killed off by the host.
Don't steal my thunder! I'm hoping he votes 10mins before close and validates my hunch.
But why would he have gone inactive last night? For all he knew, the host could have killed him off today. In fact, if he was a minority, I bet the host would have killed him off for 1 day of inactivity, given that they are crushing us and on the verge of victory.
If he's a majority, the host gives him a bit of leeway, because killing him off for inactivity would have ended the game.
Hosts don't (or shouldn't) change how they handle inactivity based on a players role/alignment. I think the Rysk rule was you get one day of inactivity warning and then your eliminated on the 2nd but I'm too lazy to go look it up.
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SeGa, you might want to edit you post up higher where you quoted the vote for smoove. Could be misinterpreted as a vote for smoove.
For the record, I'm not super-devoted to my Cayrus vote - just sort of left it there because I quoted myself to exonerate myself of the host's scurrilous charge of inactivity.
That said, I do still think he's on the wrong side of whatever we're calling the law in this game. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise...
It may not have been explicitly stated, but you get two days of inactivus. I'd never change that policy based on game progress or player role. If the hero goes afk day 1, cest la vie.
I support the decision of the majority of the majority. Ketbra.
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ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Ok, we know the majority has one last vig remaining. Please come talk to me. I really don't want to accidentally vig you tonight. Because if I do, we both lose.
I would like to remind the hypothetical remaining vig that obifett is the serial killer, and while accidentally getting killed by him would suck, getting purposefully killed by him would suck even more.
Yes because not dying totally makes me suspicious.
Yeah I know. The SK pulling the vote off of you for the second day in a row isn't totally suspicious at all.
Honestly I'm completely lost so take this as tongue in cheek.
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ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Right now we have 7 people on Cayrus.
So either:
1. Cayrus is a majority and the minority are content to ride the vote because they know this.
2. Cayrus is a minority and...
a) the minority are 4 strong, so they know they can't swing the vote.
b) the minority are 5 strong and they are gonna swing the vote late to force a tie or possibly force the vote onto a majority if the majority isn't unified.
c) the minority are being careful to not reveal themselves and are ok with Cayrus dying
I am really afraid of 1, but we can't change our vote based on that because the minority could be waiting for us to do that.
I hope it is 2.a If 2.b happens we could be screwed, so everyone in the majority NEEDS to get on the Cayrus vote. Like now.
I can only see 2.c happening if Cayrus is a minority but doesn't have power. Again, getting rid of any minority right now is better than no minority.
1. Cayrus is a majority and the minority are content to ride the vote because they know this.
2. Cayrus is a minority and...
a) the minority are 4 strong, so they know they can't swing the vote.
b) the minority are 5 strong and they are gonna swing the vote late to force a tie or possibly force the vote onto a majority if the majority isn't unified.
c) the minority are being careful to not reveal themselves and are ok with Cayrus dying
I am really afraid of 1, but we can't change our vote based on that because the minority could be waiting for us to do that.
I hope it is 2.a If 2.b happens we could be screwed, so everyone in the majority NEEDS to get on the Cayrus vote. Like now.
I can only see 2.c happening if Cayrus is a minority but doesn't have power. Again, getting rid of any minority right now is better than no minority.
Pretty sure that if there were 5 people left in the minority the game would already be over. IMO it's got to be either option 1 or option 2a
ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Still don't see any harm in preventing a late vote switch shenanigan.
Current vote status:
cayrus 7
ketbra 2
figgy 1
If 3 of the minority are in our current vote pool of 7, all they would have to do is do a late vote switch to ketbra and all of a sudden ketbra is out by the vote.
We need all the majority on the Cayrus vote. Badly.
ObiFettUse the ForceAs You WishRegistered Userregular
Other situations:
- If 2 of the minority are in the Cayrus vote of 7 and the figgy vote is the minority, then they can switch it late and cause a tie between ketbra and cayrus.
- If 2 of the minority are in the Cayrus vote of 7 and both remaining ketbra votes are minority then all they need to do is switch to figgy late and we have another tie.
Ties are bad, and leaving possible openings for late vote switches is really bad, considering its happened twice this game.
If you are part of the majority, you NEED to switch to Cayrus. There really is no good reason not to at this point.
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This hasn't happened yet. With my luck I will accidentally kill our last vig tonight.
It would be a first because it would be impossible. If it gets down to 3 people (1 maj, 1 min, me) then I guarantee the other two vote for me.
I can't see a way for the SK to win once out in the open.
In that scenario voting for you would guarantee mafia victory since they could kill the remaining majority member and your kill is 50/50 for hitting them. Either that or host victory. But yea I suppose at that point the majority can't win unless minority and SK kill each other off, so maybe you just play for the host victory. Thinking out loud now, don't mind me, would like to see you pull it off.
Only thing I can really say to that is it's a combo of 1) I'm starting to "get the hang of things" and 2) this phalla seems very inactive, and I'm trying to at least be one of the few making it interesting.
I think he got a kill day 1 as well. Majority kill on Baidol (who was targeted by both sides) and then someone killed Skull Man. I'm assuming it was our majority vig. Remember the narration said that the town drunk "started hollering at some of the muscle today" and he turned around and shot him. I'm assuming "muscle" refers to the mafia majority.
Now, for more analysis that apparently makes me look suspicious. I don't care. Someone has to do it:
Smoove Operator was inactive yesterday. Since he hasn't posted since the host called him out on it, I'm assuming he'll be inactive again tonight. I'm going to assume he is part of the vanilla majority. He might as well be dead at this point, since he won't be giving us a vote. That means four majority, four minority, and one neutral. Four unified votes today should be the minority, then? I know it shouldn't be that simple. It probably isn't.
ObiFett - neutral
SeGaTai - votes Figgy
Figgy - votes Ketbra
DumpShock
Smoove Operator - inactive
Flarne - votes Figgy
shalmelo - votes Cayrus
Cayrus
Assuran - votes Ketbra
Ketbra
So either SeG and Flarne are part of the remaining minority, or me and Assuran are. Or, the mafia aren't bothering trying to swing the vote today because it would be much more obvious with so few people left. And then we have nothing. Not that we had much otherwise.
We really need you to not go inactivus on us tonight.
And if I do get voted off tonight, hopefully I can just link back to this phalla whenever someone suspects me because I'm active.
minority only has to sit back and kill us for the last two days and if obi is right about 4—5 minority then having a non vocal person makes sense to me.
Non-vocal is one thing, but entirely inactive is going to get him killed off by the host.
Yea there's no reason to vote for smoove until he shows up since he will be dead anyway.
Don't steal my thunder! I'm hoping he votes 10mins before close and validates my hunch.
!Ketbra
to break the tie.
But why would he have gone inactive last night? For all he knew, the host could have killed him off today. In fact, if he was a minority, I bet the host would have killed him off for 1 day of inactivity, given that they are crushing us and on the verge of victory.
If he's a majority, the host gives him a bit of leeway, because killing him off for inactivity would have ended the game.
That said, I do still think he's on the wrong side of whatever we're calling the law in this game. But I'm willing to be convinced otherwise...
ketbra 3
figgy 2
cayrus 1
And we are missing 4 votes (ketbra, cayrus, smoove, obifett).
Henri Emmanuel Gratien St Pierre in Where No Man Has Gone Before
Lord Augustus Cumberbatch in Eclipse Phase
Day will continue until normal time.
Cayrus is better than ketbra
Cayrus
If Ketbra is evil, I'm going to be so freaking mad.
you and me both.
If ketbra ends up being minority, I will never trust anything ketbra says, ever. For all games always.
I would like to remind the hypothetical remaining vig that obifett is the serial killer, and while accidentally getting killed by him would suck, getting purposefully killed by him would suck even more.
I guess people are voting for Cayrus?
It's ok everyone, I'm here now.
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!Cayrus
Obi you better vig Ketbra because that's 2 days in a row that they escaped the vote and that just seems odd.
Honestly I'm completely lost so take this as tongue in cheek.
So either:
1. Cayrus is a majority and the minority are content to ride the vote because they know this.
2. Cayrus is a minority and...
b) the minority are 5 strong and they are gonna swing the vote late to force a tie or possibly force the vote onto a majority if the majority isn't unified.
c) the minority are being careful to not reveal themselves and are ok with Cayrus dying
I am really afraid of 1, but we can't change our vote based on that because the minority could be waiting for us to do that.
I hope it is 2.a
If 2.b happens we could be screwed, so everyone in the majority NEEDS to get on the Cayrus vote. Like now.
I can only see 2.c happening if Cayrus is a minority but doesn't have power. Again, getting rid of any minority right now is better than no minority.
Pretty sure that if there were 5 people left in the minority the game would already be over. IMO it's got to be either option 1 or option 2a
Current vote status:
cayrus 7
ketbra 2
figgy 1
If 3 of the minority are in our current vote pool of 7, all they would have to do is do a late vote switch to ketbra and all of a sudden ketbra is out by the vote.
We need all the majority on the Cayrus vote. Badly.
- If 2 of the minority are in the Cayrus vote of 7 and the figgy vote is the minority, then they can switch it late and cause a tie between ketbra and cayrus.
- If 2 of the minority are in the Cayrus vote of 7 and both remaining ketbra votes are minority then all they need to do is switch to figgy late and we have another tie.
Ties are bad, and leaving possible openings for late vote switches is really bad, considering its happened twice this game.
If you are part of the majority, you NEED to switch to Cayrus. There really is no good reason not to at this point.