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The Winchester Boys

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    fun fact

    I shit blood pretty much daily
    days where I wipe and do not see any blood actually make me nervous

    enjoy

    STEAM
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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I was discussing with my wife how funny it is that when someone dies, regardless of how, some blood will come out of their mouth. That's like the universal symbol for death on Supernatural.

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    that is how everyone dies for real raijin

    I work in a hospital so you gotta believe me on this

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    6 episodes left to season 4. Gonna get a few of those in tonight.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    the show uses a boatload of tropes both incidentally and a lot of the time in a tongue in cheek manner

    that is one of many

    STEAM
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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm ok with it and I was pretty sure it was intentional. It almost always makes me laugh though.

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    uh

    thanks for the spoiler warning, harry

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I missed the spoiler in the middle of all of that. Whew!

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    IF YOU'RE A GHOST, YOU BETTER STAY DEAD

    OR WE'RE GONNA KILL YOU

    STEAM
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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Dean just learned what slash fiction is.

  • ZonugalZonugal Freelance Bio-Exorcist Adam Maitland's Model TownRegistered User regular
    Oh man I missed the sociology discussion regarding a show about ghost & demons?

    Damn... Just damn...

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Pharezon wrote: »
    Goatmon wrote: »
    Skull Man, you're being silly.

    The show has had its share of people in it all the same. Mortal or otherwise. Some of which are recurring characters!
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    You missed the point pretty hard. The proportion of black people who are bad/good/nuanced vs. the proportion of white people who are bad/good/nuanced is incredibly unequal to the point that it is problematic.

    A couple things.

    One, there are more white badguys than anything else on the show.
    Two, Skull pointed out that the first appearance of a black dude in the show with a significant plot role happened to be a pyschopath. This is ignoring that the character was fitting in numerous themes (succumbing to the instincts of the monster and becoming the monster) while being a play on Blade. Maybe Skull would rather the character be cast as a white guy, since the character fit in perfectly with the narrative (as hackneyed as it is at times). Menacing the girl with a knife? Has something to do with the fact that cutting of their heads is the only way to kill.

    And the only reason why Dean didn't kill the girl was because he was proving a point of loyalty to Sam. One thing about the show I've noticed is that nobody is able to resist the monster urges. That vamp girl that they captured?
    Spoiler:

    Oh, the first black guy on the show was a badguy. There have been a shitton of black guys and gals since then and there has been as much variance as the rest of the cast.

    And hey, at least there are black actors on the show as opposed to asians who get basically zero representation at all.

    Keep in mind that by season six
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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    And holy shit, what a dick move by Harry.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon AHOY! I'M ADMIRAL ZHAO!Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    fun fact

    I shit blood pretty much daily
    days where I wipe and do not see any blood actually make me nervous

    enjoy

    I have a hemorrhoid, so I get blood on my toilet paper regularly.

    Anytime I get bad diarrhea is a fucking nightmare.

    Goatmon on
  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    munkus the point is that literally the first black male character in something like 25 hours of the show was an unsympathetic psychopath who spent the climax of the episode menacing a white woman

    there can be a dozen reasons for it and justifications or whatever but the point is that they chose to break the whitewashing by featuring a totally negative character who was worse than the monsters and it's a little rich to try to swallow the idea that it wasn't some innocent, non-subconsciously-racist decision when, as I mentioned, he was the first black male in 25 hours

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    i never really picked up on any racism in this show, and i'm pretty hypersensitive to that sorta stuff

    it's just a very white person show which i guess could be argued is inherently racist, but the actual black characters seem varied and distinct and nonstereotypical which is actually sorta refreshing

    i think it'd be easier to argue the show has some seriously sexist elements to it

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  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    believe it or not it actually has both

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    can I just say for the record that I really like this show, warts and all

  • Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    my tv show won't have any black people

    too risky

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Some episodes of the show are casually sexist in a "tough men roll into town and save the pretty woman"

    and I mean, that is a staple of the kind of horror that Supernatural is based off and plays around with

    which is not an excuse, just an observation

    it doesn't bother me, but isn't that pretty much the dictionary definition of privilege? food for thought.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    So yeah I wouldn't say that Supernatural is actively racist or sexist

    but it does show privilege on the part of writers, at times

    not that it is by any means worse than arguably most shows on tv

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Finale of season 4 starts...right now!

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    the thing about privilege is you can find it in literally everything if you are looking, and pretending that there is any goddamn way to please everyone is a fool's errand. Unless it is being actively, consciously, and aggressively denigrating, it all comes off like you are looking for a fight, even if you aren't. because, at the end of the day, it is no one's job to protect your feelings.

  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    believe it or not it actually has both

    i sure as hecks don't think they're mutually exclusive

    however i, like skull man, fuckin' love this show and deffo don't think it needs to be particularly condemned or anything. also all the former x-files actors that show up are rad.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    the thing about privilege is you can find it in literally everything if you are looking, and pretending that there is any goddamn way to please everyone is a fool's errand. Unless it is being actively, consciously, and aggressively denigrating, it all comes off like you are looking for a fight, even if you aren't. because, at the end of the day, it is no one's job to protect your feelings.

    I agree wholeheartedly.

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    how much I like a character on this show is pretty much in direct proportion to how good of an actor they are

    good god I dislike demons

    Season 5 Spoilers
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    Skull Man on
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    hey.

    season 3 ruby was good!

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    oh yeah that's right
    Spoiler:

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    munkus the point is that literally the first black male character in something like 25 hours of the show was an unsympathetic psychopath who spent the climax of the episode menacing a white woman

    there can be a dozen reasons for it and justifications or whatever but the point is that they chose to break the whitewashing by featuring a totally negative character who was worse than the monsters and it's a little rich to try to swallow the idea that it wasn't some innocent, non-subconsciously-racist decision when, as I mentioned, he was the first black male in 25 hours

    It really doesn't matter when, in the grand scheme of the show, it was just the first black character. Especially since his character fit part and parcel perfect with the themes of the fucking show. That character was gonna be made regardless. The only thing placating your upset sensibilities would accomplish would be one less job for that actor.

    Boo hoo, the first character was a badguy. In a show where half the characters are darkside. He wasn't even a straight up badguy, just an overzealous guy. (And since [season 6 spoiler]
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    On a sidenote (s5 spoilers)
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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    oh yeah that's right
    Spoiler:

    Hey, that "worse actress" is Jared Padalecki's wife!

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    yeah well so is Kate Capshaw

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Wait, did you hate Azazel, Skull?

    Azazel was awesome!

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    oh yeah that's right
    Spoiler:
    Spoiler:

  • PeccaviPeccavi oh... oh my!Registered User regular
    They sure use carry on wayward son a lot in this show.

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  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    Wait, did you hate Azazel, Skull?

    Azazel was awesome!

    oh yeah he was rad too

    good god he really carried the mythology of
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    similar to how
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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    That is not a song that can be overused.

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Was morethanbrothers.net ever an actual website? There's nothing there now.

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    god I want to watch more of the show

    but season 5's finale was so perfect

    maybe if I can just compartmentalize everything that comes after as "really good fanfiction"

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