[Xenoblade Chronicles] is a pretty good game. Good enough to get a Wii U sequel.

Rami

If you think that shit is weird wait till you finish the game.

jothki

I'm kind of curious, what happens if you die during a plot fight? Do you get kicked back to before the plot event?

Xenogears of Bore

nope, you walk in and refight the boss.

The Wolfman

Just reached Central Factory.

Spoiler:

After changing Fiora's armor and seeing how drastically she changed, it finally dawned on me.

She's friggin' KOS-MOS.

Tragic as all hell what happened to her. But she's steadily becoming so damn awesome. Her one talent art, the one that says "Does a 10 hit combo on one enemy"? Yeah, that may as well say "raperaperaperaperaperaperaperaperaperape".

Oh, and I think I need some damn help with Dunban, since I must be doing something wrong. Dude can't tank for shit. I have his special naked talents. I have Melia's no gem talent linked. But Shulk and Seven can pull aggro off him with their auto attack alone. What specific arts do I need to put on the guy, because I'm guessing that's the weak link? And for the record, no I do not have on the aura that drops his aggro.

Xenogears of Bore

He needs two auras to tank properly. Serene Heart is his keep the enemy from killing him aura, and Battle Eye forces the enemy to attack him (and vice versa)

If you're controlling him you can also use Soaring Tempest to get some group aggro and boost dat talent gauge.

jothki

I tank using Peerless, it provides a nice AoE aggro burst when you trigger it. Between that, the strength boost, and Dunban's normal damage, you should be fine even without the naked boost. I suspect you're probably better off loading him up with gems, as well.

Edit: If you're going to have Shulk in your party, he should probably be the main, so that you don't have to fiddle around with Warning him to use the Monado skills. If you have control of him then grabbing aggro should be a non-issue, since he's moderately durable and can just drop aggro with Shadow Eye.

Xenogears of Bore

At central factory? No way. Unadorned beauty plus naked tank tree is godly at that point. Hell unadorned beauty is probably the best bet for all physical attackers besides CHARACTER REDACTED at that point.

jothki

Just cleared the Core.

Spoiler:

Holy shit the game has a good memory for old cutscenes.

Rubycat

I guess I need to continue toward the end some more, cause all these new quests showing up are out of my league on every level. even seemingly simple ones like getting an item is guarded by something lv 90+

jothki

Now that I can make Rank VI gems, I really should get in the habit of saving before a big combine.

Oh well, at least I have a -71% spike gem now. I assume the max is -75%?

Chen

That's correct. Skill link Dunban's spike resistance skill for an extra gem slot.

While Serene Heart is nice, you don't need it if you stack agility/HP gems and skills, which you're going to want anyway. Similarly, Battle Eye only locks on one enemy. Peerless is what you need to sustain aggro of enemy groups and if the AI is controlling him, that's the only aura you want. If you're controlling Shulk, use Shadow Eye whenever you can. Jaws of Death is sometimes useful in difficult boss/unique battles, but if he has the right setup of items, gems and skills, he'll be the last to survive when the rest of your party is already down. Dunban's best weapon is the Wyvern Cutlass and his best armour is a mix of Lancelot and Glory. You definitely want the Glory Arms for the Haste bonus, since it's normally a weapon gem, so it frees up a weapon slot for more Aggro Up gems if you so desire. If not, there are always more gems you want than you have slots, such as Double Attack, Critical Up, Topple Plus, Night Vision. As for skills, load up on every agility and double attack skill you can find, then link the skill that turns every double attack into a critical hit (you can find it on 7th). Whatever you have left, use it on utility skills like EXP, AP, HP healed and movement speed if you're playing as him. If you still have coins left, more strength or physical damage reduction doesn't hurt depending on what you want.

Xenogears of Bore

Naw its all about Serene Heart. It's the second biggest agility boost in the game behind Monado Speed.

Tcheldor

I found serene heat is useful against a few bosses, but otherwise isn't needed.

Can we talk about awesome lines from the game? I have a personal favorite, and it's the line Shulk says when he uses Enchant.
"You're not invincible! Monado Enchant."

The reason I really like this line is the way the VA delivers it. It's the note of desperation in his voice that I love. You can just tell how the Homs feel about the menace of the Mechons and the way the Monado is the only thing they can use to fight it. It's great.

Xenogears of Bore

What's the name of that sword again?

Oh right, THE MONADO.

Zephiran

Adam makes it sound like Shulk is about ten years older than he's supposed to be, and it's a great thing.

Maz-

Shulk: Now we're working as one!
Sharla: And as one..
Shulk: ..we're unbeatable!

Blackjack

I like to imagine that Dunban and Fiora's parents taught them that being awesome meant being as over the top as possible.

"Let's press on AND ON AND ON!"

"BORN INTO A WORLD OF STRIFE! AGAINST THE ODDS! WE CHOOSE TO FIGHT!"

Zephiran

I love it when Reyn shows disappointment over the fact that his awesome attack only did 1 point of damage to the Mechon he was targetting.

It's like, he gets so caught up in it that he forgets he can't harm them, and just seems so honestly dumbfounded every time.

"Eh!?!"

That takes talent.

Blackjack

Maybe he just thought he was in a cutscene.

Zephiran

Funnily enough, Shulk does it as well in certain fights.

Come to think of it, he really should've kept that sword he made out of junk around. Just like Geralt he needs one sword for ROWBAHTS and another for HYOOMINS.

Rubycat

Oh Melia, your AI is so bad.

Spoiler:

Several times trying to beat Lorithia I just gave up and controlled Melia myself to make it slightly less painfull.. "Why yes Melia; all those elements you summoned look smashing above your head, now please lob them at the angry floating clouds!."

Blackjack

Yeah, Melia's AI is horrible. It's too bad, too, since she is amazing when used right.

Speaking of, what are people's strategies with her? Currently I bring up the Fire and Wind buffs then lob lightning at the enemy. Between Summon Lightning and Summon Copy she can do it pretty consistently.

Rubycat

I summon Wind then Lighting and then Copy for another Lightning then lob as I see fit. and use Elemental burst if her talent gauge is full. then chain attack elemental Burst and watch that aoe damage fly.
-however she doesn't even have 4k health in my team so if something so much as looks at her right now she crumples-
Lighting is great single damage.

The Wolfman

God bless everyone for the Dunban tips. I guess Peerless was the missing link. Now the dude can actually keep that red ring around his ass.

Now I just wish they had put in an armor class that is classified as being naked, but still shows up on the character model. I don't mind him being in his trunks in battle, but when I'm coming up to a story bit, I'll actually go out of my way to put them on, because having him like that in cutscenes looks rightfully silly.

Chen

I've never used Dunban naked and he has been awesome throughout the game. Don't listen to XoB and his manic ways.

Vyolynce

Wii arrived home last night, no data loss. The sidequesting has been resumed in earnest!

Progress? What?

The Dude With Herpes

So I decided to take a bit to go dork around and see if I could level up some on the 70-ish enemies that were floating around in colony 9 and Bionis Leg; turns out I can pretty well. Got a couple levels already.

However, something odd sprung up. I was getting Lancelot hats from the low 70's enemies in Colony 9. I was under the impression that the Lancelot gear was the "best" medium armor that was slotted and not Unique.

It feels weird that the "best" armor, you can get in your 70s. Is there really nothing better at like 99?

jothki

Chen wrote: »

I've never used Dunban naked and he has been awesome throughout the game. Don't listen to XoB and his manic ways.

If Dunban was meant to be naked, most light armor wouldn't have made him look like a Sky Pirate.

Xenogears of Bore

You really can get the best armor for every slot fighting level 70 monsters.

Except for gloves. The best gloves are Unique and drop off level 97+ monsters.

lionheart_m

ARGH....is there somewhere I can reliably farm Juicy Brocolli?

EDIT: Or at least a viable route where I can find tons of white orbs on the Bionis Leg.

Xenogears of Bore

Pretty sure it isn't rare.

The Wolfman

Getting real tired of having every fight in Agniratha turn into a 5 man brawl when shit from the lower level decides to join in.

Krathoon

It is always kind of surreal when you die in a boss fight and go back. The world just plugs on without you, but that instance is suspended until you get back to it.

So, you can just die, goof around with some other things, and then meander back to the fight.

Xenogears of Bore

Pfft, it's even better when you can drag a few from the top part or sub basement in and get a real fight going.

Krathoon

About Fiora:

Spoiler:

I assume she gets resurrected at some point? It is kind of odd she is in the art with all of the team members.

Glenn565

Krathoon wrote: »

About Fiora:

Spoiler:

I assume she gets resurrected at some point? It is kind of odd she is in the art with all of the team members.

Spoiler:

Yeah, she does. They don't even try to hide that she returns later.

Satanic Jesus

Quick question about skill links: Do skills stack, like Counter Rage and Vendetta (both increase chances of a counter attack)

jothki

At the final dungeon now.

Spoiler:

I loved the music transition at the start.

Also, I only just realized that I had had an aggro up skill linked to Fiora since halfway through Agniratha (or I suppose ever since I first got her back), when I moved her from a tank to a rogue. Anyone who complains about Dunban's ability to hold aggro is just wrong.

Tcheldor

7th can easily take hate from him if they try to have a tank off, but Dunban has better survivability by far.

Rubycat

Alright. Time to go after the really hard stuff now that I've beaten the game and seen the ending (was about lv 79)