iMessage is the biggest fuck you to the carriers ever
you mean, since Google Voice?
iMessage is baked in, tied directly to your iTunes account (which you probably already had if you bought music ever in the past 10 or so years)
How many people do you think ported their number over to GV? If they didn't, you've got to text a separate number, etc. It might have been there sooner, but it's far from a great or well-integrated experience (I actually use GV Mobile+ on iOS, I bought it back when it was a jailbreak app on iOS!)
Once again, the nerd/layperson distinction. Google Voice was around for (IIRC) years before iMessage, and I remember Blackberry messenger being advertised well before iMessage came out, but it wasn't until after iMessage hit that the carriers started forcing everyone onto unlimited texting plans.
Are you trying to say there isn't a distinction between a person who knows what the hell Google Voice is and one who doesn't? Really?
As for Blackberry Messenger...RIM's circling the drain, so you can see how concerned the carriers were about it.
iMessage completely bypasses the carriers regarding SMS and MMS, and again, I'm not saying it was there first, but the way it was an 'Oh by the way' after the announcements for iOS 5 is what I mean by admiring the 'fuck you' to the carriers. Apple didn't bother letting any of the carriers know they were about to remove a healthy chunk of their SMS/MMS business.
After updating to iOS 5, literally millions of phones (and iPads!) suddenly had free texting and MMS, without any real work on the users part. Can Google Voice claim the same? (I guess maybe that deal with Sprint they had could count?)
edit: I'm also not saying iMessage is perfect, one of the weird quirks it would have is alerting all of your iMessage-enabled devices at the same time when you received a message, and continuing to do so, even though you answered from one device. I think they've mostly worked that out though and it figures out what device you're chatting on and just starts sending the messages to it. Not to mention the messages carry over from one device to another! (though I hear iMessage on OSX is still a disaster)
How many of those devices can run Jellybean, or ICS, for that matter?
It really doesn't matter. Much of the new functionality comes from google's apps. And those update back to like, 2.1 or even earlier. My Desire (I gave away) is running a 2.3.5 android and there is no app on the market I'd want on it that didn't run yet.
So to the "dumb end user" you talk about here, it doesn't matter fuck all. Their phones work flawlessly, they can install the same apps their friends can.. For them a switch to ICS would be almost cosmetic, and even worse if it's a low end phone.
anything on that list can run build 40 of AOKP which is ICS with a few extra options unlocked
anything earlier than that just doesn't have the hardware/isn't used widely enough to warrant fucking around with it
asking about jellybean is a dumb question, we haven't seen source code for it yet so the only thing running it is the gnex (and that, poorly, because again: hasn't officially been released)
it's like asking what runs iOS whatever-version-is-in-beta
edit: also the device is just old and nobody's buying it anymore and it's EOLed just like with the carrier, they actually announced they're dropping a couple HTC phones and the Fire today
3GS, 4, 4S, iPad 2 & 3. Oh and the iPhone 5, when its announced. And maybe the iPad mini if it materializes.
anything on that list can run build 40 of AOKP which is ICS with a few extra options unlocked
anything earlier than that just doesn't have the hardware/isn't used widely enough to warrant fucking around with it
asking about jellybean is a dumb question, we haven't seen source code for it yet so the only thing running it is the gnex (and that, poorly, because again: hasn't officially been released)
it's like asking what runs iOS whatever-version-is-in-beta
edit: also the device is just old and nobody's buying it anymore and it's EOLed just like with the carrier, they actually announced they're dropping a couple HTC phones and the Fire today
3GS, 4, 4S, iPad 2 & 3. Oh and the iPhone 5, when its announced. And maybe the iPad mini if it materializes.
Which is still a dumb thing to say because as he said Jellybean isn't even really developer released yet
As an avid apple fan boy who owns pretty much every apple related
anything on that list can run build 40 of AOKP which is ICS with a few extra options unlocked
anything earlier than that just doesn't have the hardware/isn't used widely enough to warrant fucking around with it
asking about jellybean is a dumb question, we haven't seen source code for it yet so the only thing running it is the gnex (and that, poorly, because again: hasn't officially been released)
it's like asking what runs iOS whatever-version-is-in-beta
edit: also the device is just old and nobody's buying it anymore and it's EOLed just like with the carrier, they actually announced they're dropping a couple HTC phones and the Fire today
3GS, 4, 4S, iPad 2 & 3. Oh and the iPhone 5, when its announced. And maybe the iPad mini if it materializes.
While accurate, only two of those devices can utilize the entirety of iOS6.
God I am about as in love with the S3 as you can be with a piece of tech. It's beautiful, fast, has a huge battery, the camera is great.. I got the one with "only" 16 GB internal memory, but that's a godsend compared to the 380-ish the Desire had after installing a custom rom, and with the 32GB microsd card.. So far 48 GB have been enough.
God I am about as in love with the S3 as you can be with a piece of tech. It's beautiful, fast, has a huge battery, the camera is great.. I got the one with "only" 16 GB internal memory, but that's a godsend compared to the 380-ish the Desire had after installing a custom rom, and with the 32GB microsd card.. So far 48 GB have been enough.
wally you are making the wait for mine to come interminable
God I am about as in love with the S3 as you can be with a piece of tech. It's beautiful, fast, has a huge battery, the camera is great.. I got the one with "only" 16 GB internal memory, but that's a godsend compared to the 380-ish the Desire had after installing a custom rom, and with the 32GB microsd card.. So far 48 GB have been enough.
wally you are making the wait for mine to come interminable
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Tell me how you like it after a few days! Especially the battery, want to know whether that's just my imagination or whether it really is that much of a difference.
Which one are you getting, US version?
yeah, I'm in the US of A so we're getting the dual core version
what do you mean about the battery? are you referring to this?
huh, no. I meant that it lasts for ages. so far I haven't noticed a short battery life, and cell standby is always very low in the list. will have a look at it later today though
Edit:
This mod will fix the wrong reporting of "cell stand by "usage to some extent. If your mobile has actual drain due to signal issues or some other issues do not blame me or any other for not fixing this.
it seems this is only a reporting issue anyways, as the thread on xda seems to indicate. so you should not see a lower battery life through this
Edit2: Nice how the original article completely misunderstands the point :P
anything on that list can run build 40 of AOKP which is ICS with a few extra options unlocked
anything earlier than that just doesn't have the hardware/isn't used widely enough to warrant fucking around with it
asking about jellybean is a dumb question, we haven't seen source code for it yet so the only thing running it is the gnex (and that, poorly, because again: hasn't officially been released)
it's like asking what runs iOS whatever-version-is-in-beta
edit: also the device is just old and nobody's buying it anymore and it's EOLed just like with the carrier, they actually announced they're dropping a couple HTC phones and the Fire today
3GS, 4, 4S, iPad 2 & 3. Oh and the iPhone 5, when its announced. And maybe the iPad mini if it materializes.
so the current gen, the previous gen (to a limited extent), and tablets
and the next gen that hasn't been announced yet
why does that sound so familiar
(it's because this is how android works, there just happen to be more phones not included in the previous gen category because there are way more phones to begin with)
Sweet. I finally got cyanogenmod running on my Pandigital Novel (thanks to the Slatedroid forums). Now I have Froyo on it! (It was super cheap, shut up. Also, I won't cry if I brick it messing with the firmware.)
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...i was agreeing with you. chill out.
So to the "dumb end user" you talk about here, it doesn't matter fuck all. Their phones work flawlessly, they can install the same apps their friends can.. For them a switch to ICS would be almost cosmetic, and even worse if it's a low end phone.
3GS, 4, 4S, iPad 2 & 3. Oh and the iPhone 5, when its announced. And maybe the iPad mini if it materializes.
Which is still a dumb thing to say because as he said Jellybean isn't even really developer released yet
As an avid apple fan boy who owns pretty much every apple related
You need to take a step back and breathe, man.
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(nobody read me and Uriel's last page or so of posts)
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While accurate, only two of those devices can utilize the entirety of iOS6.
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unless the iphone 5 is made out of handjobs
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Gonna get silly up in here with my tech purchases
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it will be an iTunes device
Well I'm going to bed and if you geese get this thread locked there will be heck to pay
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because there's only one other word for hell
(symbian)
(/smug)
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Full tower PCs are excellent foot rests when you have raised desks.
Oh, I finally bought a Core i3 2120 and a motherboard.
*doesn't know where to go from there, because turn-by-turn navigation isn't supported in a phone that came out this decade for some reason*
*BUT IT IS NOW*
Oh, did they change that for iphone 4?
wally you are making the wait for mine to come interminable
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oh
no
get a new phone peasant
Interestingly, this has never been a problem because I am not a small child and can generally get myself someplace just fine on my own
Y'all kids rely too much on this space age techno junk!!!!
(thank god they're updating maps finally)
Which one are you getting, US version?
Also
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/6/3141926/galaxy-nexus-ban-temporarily-suspended-while-appeals-court-issues
what do you mean about the battery? are you referring to this?
Edit:
it seems this is only a reporting issue anyways, as the thread on xda seems to indicate. so you should not see a lower battery life through this
Edit2: Nice how the original article completely misunderstands the point :P
so the current gen, the previous gen (to a limited extent), and tablets
and the next gen that hasn't been announced yet
why does that sound so familiar
(it's because this is how android works, there just happen to be more phones not included in the previous gen category because there are way more phones to begin with)
THANK YOU. Jeez they just don't understaaaaand.
It's like green texts are some sort of lesser person
if it hadn't been for Google Nav, I would have gotten so lost in Seattle
I get lost very easily
they are
we've been over this
Also so excited for a nexus 7 even though I really can't afford it
edit: lack of expandable memory is unfortunate though
Uber is awesome.