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    MyDcmbrMyDcmbr PEWPEWPEW!!! America's WangRegistered User regular
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Audi 5cyl... mmmmmm.

    Steam
    So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
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    krushkrush Registered User regular
    MyDcmbr wrote: »
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Audi 5cyl... mmmmmm.

    Volvo's old turbo i5 from the T5R >>>>>>>>>> all other i5's

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Until you need to drive through a snowstorm in Chicago.

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    krushkrush Registered User regular
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Until you need to drive through a snowstorm in Chicago.

    at which time I would gladly take a 4WD car over a FWD.

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    L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    So, my sister's car blew a head gasket. How delightful.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    krush wrote: »
    MyDcmbr wrote: »
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Audi 5cyl... mmmmmm.

    Volvo's old turbo i5 from the T5R >>>>>>>>>> all other i5's

    Pfft. Audi's 5cyl Turbo, the UR quattro. Volvo can suck it, they banned the Audi motor because it was dominant in the Trans AM stuff, and pretty solid in group B, but that stuff was basically just waiting to kill people (and did), and after they switched everything to group A, Peugot started melting faces. They kinda bowed out of the WRC stuff and SCCA and stuck to DTM.

    Well, and the noise the Audi 5cyl makes is delightful, if you find ferocious fire breathing fury delightful (and i do).


    krush wrote: »
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Until you need to drive through a snowstorm in Chicago.

    at which time I would gladly take a 4WD car over a FWD.


    Sure, and most people would rather just have a simpler, lighter FWD car for daily use (and would be correct in doing so). Neither my old Accord nor my old Civic ever got stuck in snow worth driving in. As a matter of fact, the only time I've ever bee stuck in snow was in my lifted 4x4 Cherokee. Turns out It can't drive out of snow up to it's windscreen.




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    So, my sister's car blew a head gasket. How delightful.


    That sucks. What sort of car? I just put used engines in blown headgaskets now, unless it's something really new.

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    SliderSlider Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Nice looking Audi S4, but I'm sick and tired of assholes that take pictures of their car and then tell you that the tires are only available if you pay $2,000 more.

    Also, what is the fucking point of putting a price on every single modification that was done to the car? When I sell a car, I list the mods, but I don't expect anybody to pay more for them. If I modify my car, I'm doing it for myself.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    So you're just ignoring unanimous consensus to buy an unmodified car? Then post modded cars for opinions? I don't understand.

    So, one last time. FIND A STOCK CAR.

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    SliderSlider Registered User regular
    I'm trying, but most of the cars I'm attracted to happen to be modified. Like this one.

    I'll keep looking.

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    L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    So, my sister's car blew a head gasket. How delightful.


    That sucks. What sort of car? I just put used engines in blown headgaskets now, unless it's something really new.

    2002 (?) Mazda Protege. It sounds like she's going to take it to a garage. I'm kind of happy, because that means I won't have to do it. I'm also kinda ambivalent because I won't have to do it.
    It'll be like $800+ for them to do it.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    Slider wrote: »
    I'm trying, but most of the cars I'm attracted to happen to be modified. Like this one.

    I'll keep looking.

    Just to point something out. The suspension geometry on an Audi B5 or B6 chassis is sophisticated and highly effective. A group of anal Germans set that car up to scream, and it does. Some dipshit car guy decides he wants it too look good, and slams it to the ground does not mean he has improved the car, in fact he has changed every angle in the suspension, and thrown off the weight balance.

    I can see stiffer springs or whatever on a commuter car like the civic, it needs it. An S4, does not.

    Make a small list of cars you really want, it seems like you want something a bit luxury, and sporty. The regular 325/A4 both make around 200hp, and are fun to drive. Whatever you settle on, Be patient, keep an eye on ebay/clist/whatever and be ready to jump on whatever good pops up. The worst thing you can do when buying a used car is get impatient. Wait for the right one, they are out there.
    So, my sister's car blew a head gasket. How delightful.


    That sucks. What sort of car? I just put used engines in blown headgaskets now, unless it's something really new.

    2002 (?) Mazda Protege. It sounds like she's going to take it to a garage. I'm kind of happy, because that means I won't have to do it. I'm also kinda ambivalent because I won't have to do it.
    It'll be like $800+ for them to do it.


    Fixing the gasket? I don't like doing that but hey, it's not too bad if it didn't overheat. That's not a bad price.

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    LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    So you're just ignoring unanimous consensus to buy an unmodified car? Then post modded cars for opinions? I don't understand.

    So, one last time. FIND A STOCK CAR.

    This is why he can't post in H/A anymore.

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    krushkrush Registered User regular
    krush wrote: »
    MyDcmbr wrote: »
    krush wrote: »
    as far as I'm concerned, anything other than an i4 or i5 in a FWD car is retarded.


    ... Then too, I look at FWD cars as retarded as well.

    Audi 5cyl... mmmmmm.

    Volvo's old turbo i5 from the T5R >>>>>>>>>> all other i5's

    Pfft. Audi's 5cyl Turbo, the UR quattro. Volvo can suck it, they banned the Audi motor because it was dominant in the Trans AM stuff, and pretty solid in group B, but that stuff was basically just waiting to kill people (and did), and after they switched everything to group A, Peugot started melting faces. They kinda bowed out of the WRC stuff and SCCA and stuck to DTM.

    Well, and the noise the Audi 5cyl makes is delightful, if you find ferocious fire breathing fury delightful (and i do).

    1997volvo850r3cl6.jpg

    I rather like the Volvo T5-R. Yes, I know it's FWD, but it's one I would gladly drive.

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    DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    So I learned a valuable lesson that I feel silly for not knowing.

    That gauge that wasn't working? Blown fuse. Apparantly a blown fuse can still power things (my other two gauges) with one side if it is blown.

    The more you know!

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    MyDcmbrMyDcmbr PEWPEWPEW!!! America's WangRegistered User regular
    OMG OMG OMG

    Wankel coming back!

    Steam
    So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
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    L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    So, my sister's car blew a head gasket. How delightful.


    That sucks. What sort of car? I just put used engines in blown headgaskets now, unless it's something really new.

    2002 (?) Mazda Protege. It sounds like she's going to take it to a garage. I'm kind of happy, because that means I won't have to do it. I'm also kinda ambivalent because I won't have to do it.
    It'll be like $800+ for them to do it.


    Fixing the gasket? I don't like doing that but hey, it's not too bad if it didn't overheat. That's not a bad price.

    Nope. It overheated. That is how we found out.
    I'm of the opinion of just getting a new one, since she won't have the money for a new engine outright, and the costs for the garage to fix it are going to be stupid expensive. Sell it for $800 or whatever, and let someone else throw an engine in there, or fix the gasket, and get something else. It's not like she even bothers with basic maintenance anyway.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    MyDcmbr wrote: »


    So hawt. That's like porn, put a NSFW tag on it.
    So, my sister's car blew a head gasket.  How delightful.








    That sucks.  What sort of car?  I just put used engines in blown headgaskets now, unless it's something really new.




    2002 (?) Mazda Protege.  It sounds like she's going to take it to a garage.  I'm kind of happy, because that means I won't have to do it.  I'm also kinda ambivalent because I won't have to do it.
    It'll be like $800+ for them to do it.








    Fixing the gasket?  I don't like doing that but hey, it's not too bad if it didn't overheat. That's not a bad price.
     




    Nope.  It overheated.  That is how we found out.
    I'm of the opinion of just getting a new one, since she won't have the money for a new engine outright, and the costs for the garage to fix it are going to be stupid expensive.  Sell it for $800 or whatever, and let someone else throw an engine in there, or fix the gasket, and get something else.  It's not like she even bothers with basic maintenance anyway.


    Ahh, we must have the same sister.

    You know. My sister has killed many cars. All bought for her, or she got help. I have killed no cars, but have to buy em all myself. Who's the better investment here? I'm a bit old for my parents to buy me a car.....no, I'd take one.




    And, that is a sexy Volvo, I'd drive it. Those wheels look great.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Are there signs the head gasket has blown prior to overheating? When mine went everything was totally fine and normal and then bam engine overheats and Im stuck on the side of the freeway.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    Not really, it depends on how it blows, and where it's leaking. Sometimes it'll leak into a cylinder, which will suck some coolant, and make poor compression, the car would run like shit then. Usually they don't just blow, unless something else happens to overheat the block and warp the head. But, some cars suck, and they just pop.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Yeah, I think my car had over 215,000 miles on it and it wasnt like I constantly babied it. Plus, I bought it used and Im sure the previous owner beat on it as well. Oh well, semi nice to know I probably didnt miss any signs that it was going to go.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    Just saw a new Toyota 86 in the wild. Kinda ugly, but not, since I know what's under the hood.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    I kinda like them, but I think Id rather get the Subaru. Then again I'm not sure I could go back to a car that small.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited August 2012
    I could be wrong, I only caught it from the side. It seemed to have a different front valence from the pics I'm looking at. I'm a huge proponent of small cars, I think people drive things that are too damn big and heavy. One of the reasons I like older cars, they are not so bloated. I'm 6'4" and fit comfortably in most small cars, I just can't see the use in a huge land boat. Don;t even get me started on SUVs. Abominations.

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    MajorElintMajorElint Registered User regular
    Not really, it depends on how it blows, and where it's leaking. Sometimes it'll leak into a cylinder, which will suck some coolant, and make poor compression, the car would run like shit then. Usually they don't just blow, unless something else happens to overheat the block and warp the head. But, some cars suck, and they just pop.

    When mine blew it basically started dumping water out of the back of the block. At first I thought it was a hose or the heater core, still could have been I suppose, I am starting to really not trust the shop my dad insists we take our cars to.

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    SliderSlider Registered User regular
    Found it. I just need the price lowered to around $15k.

    Any of you have anything negative to say about the Mazdaspeed3?

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    I could be wrong, I only caught it from the side. It seemed to have a different front valence from the pics I'm looking at. I'm a huge proponent of small cars, I think people drive things that are too damn big and heavy. One of the reasons I like older cars, they are not so bloated. I'm 6'4" and fit comfortably in most small cars, I just can't see the use in a huge land boat. Don;t even get me started on SUVs. Abominations.

    Yeah, Im the same height and while Im sure I can fit in the BRZ/FT-86 or whatever the Scion is called just fine, its basically a 2 seater at that point. Although hey, maybe its more spacious than my 240 despite being roughly the same size. Its basically everything I wished my 240 was - more power, safer to drive, more reliable.

    I dunno, Im pretty sure my next car is going to be a Prius as a daily and something fun for when I want it (probably a 510 wagon). Or mabye I'll get a WRX wagon. Or an older Legacy wagon. I really want a wagon.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Slider wrote: »
    Found it. I just need the price lowered to around $15k.

    Any of you have anything negative to say about the Mazdaspeed3?

    Assuming the car checks out, it looks pretty good to me (given my cursory glance). The Mazdaspeed3 is pretty sweet.

    Id totally try to talk them down to below 15k, especially if you already have financing and can just offer them 15k in cash right then.

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    MyDcmbrMyDcmbr PEWPEWPEW!!! America's WangRegistered User regular
    I had an 86 Fiero with the Iron Duke in it that popped a headgasket. It was dumping water into the cylinders. I managed to limp it a couple miles home and called my friend over. Just for fun we revved the engine and it was blowing water out of the exhaust pipes, a large quantity of it.

    I was sad and impressed.

    Sold it on Craigslist that day to a guy for $200 who wanted to restore it.

    Steam
    So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    emp123 wrote: »
    I could be wrong, I only caught it from the side. It seemed to have a different front valence from the pics I'm looking at. I'm a huge proponent of small cars, I think people drive things that are too damn big and heavy. One of the reasons I like older cars, they are not so bloated. I'm 6'4" and fit comfortably in most small cars, I just can't see the use in a huge land boat. Don;t even get me started on SUVs. Abominations.

    Yeah, Im the same height and while Im sure I can fit in the BRZ/FT-86 or whatever the Scion is called just fine, its basically a 2 seater at that point. Although hey, maybe its more spacious than my 240 despite being roughly the same size. Its basically everything I wished my 240 was - more power, safer to drive, more reliable.

    I dunno, Im pretty sure my next car is going to be a Prius as a daily and something fun for when I want it (probably a 510 wagon). Or mabye I'll get a WRX wagon. Or an older Legacy wagon. I really want a wagon.

    I always tell people not to buy the Prius. They are getting cheaper, I think 24k base msrp for 48/51. But a Corolla comes in at 16k, 27/34. The gas savings in the Prius would take something like 10 years to recoup the purchase premium. And after ten years, you'll be looking at the battery, wondering when it's going to die.

    Now, if you're being all environmentally friendly, sure, I think the Prius is the cheapest hybrid out there right now. But if you just want economical, I'd go for a Corolla, or similar. Jetta TDIs get 43mpg or something, or a Golf. 140 horse and 236 torques in a Golf, hah.

    I agree with the wagon :rotate: We need more RS4 Avant action over here.

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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    There are a lot of new generation diesels that deliver essentially the same economy and emissions as a Prius, and are significantly cheaper (Renault Megane, Volvo C30, Hyundai i30, etc). They pretty much all do around 90mpg (using UK gallons) and emit around 90 g/km of CO2. Plus you don't have to worry about the environmental impact of the heavy metals in the battery.

    It does kind of make me wonder why there isn't a diesel Prius, though.

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    SliderSlider Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Found it. I just need the price lowered to around $15k.

    Any of you have anything negative to say about the Mazdaspeed3?

    Assuming the car checks out, it looks pretty good to me (given my cursory glance). The Mazdaspeed3 is pretty sweet.

    Id totally try to talk them down to below 15k, especially if you already have financing and can just offer them 15k in cash right then.

    Nevermind. It's gone.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    japan wrote: »
    There are a lot of new generation diesels that deliver essentially the same economy and emissions as a Prius, and are significantly cheaper (Renault Megane, Volvo C30, Hyundai i30, etc). They pretty much all do around 90mpg (using UK gallons) and emit around 90 g/km of CO2. Plus you don't have to worry about the environmental impact of the heavy metals in the battery.

    It does kind of make me wonder why there isn't a diesel Prius, though.


    I don't think he's in the UK. (Based on the cars he's mentioned, could be wrong.) Here in the States we don't get any of that cool stuff. We do have 15 different gigantic SUV models though. Cause they are so great. The Hyundai is coming over, sans Diesel options, that's par for the course. If you want a diesel car, you're basically stuck with VW.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    I could be wrong, I only caught it from the side. It seemed to have a different front valence from the pics I'm looking at. I'm a huge proponent of small cars, I think people drive things that are too damn big and heavy. One of the reasons I like older cars, they are not so bloated. I'm 6'4" and fit comfortably in most small cars, I just can't see the use in a huge land boat. Don;t even get me started on SUVs. Abominations.

    Yeah, Im the same height and while Im sure I can fit in the BRZ/FT-86 or whatever the Scion is called just fine, its basically a 2 seater at that point. Although hey, maybe its more spacious than my 240 despite being roughly the same size. Its basically everything I wished my 240 was - more power, safer to drive, more reliable.

    I dunno, Im pretty sure my next car is going to be a Prius as a daily and something fun for when I want it (probably a 510 wagon). Or mabye I'll get a WRX wagon. Or an older Legacy wagon. I really want a wagon.

    I always tell people not to buy the Prius. They are getting cheaper, I think 24k base msrp for 48/51. But a Corolla comes in at 16k, 27/34. The gas savings in the Prius would take something like 10 years to recoup the purchase premium. And after ten years, you'll be looking at the battery, wondering when it's going to die.

    Now, if you're being all environmentally friendly, sure, I think the Prius is the cheapest hybrid out there right now. But if you just want economical, I'd go for a Corolla, or similar. Jetta TDIs get 43mpg or something, or a Golf. 140 horse and 236 torques in a Golf, hah.

    I agree with the wagon :rotate: We need more RS4 Avant action over here.

    I know I said Prius, but I kinda meant any hybrid since I assume Im going to be doing a lot of city driving (depends on where I end up working and if I end up living in the area I would like to live in) so getting 44+ in the city sounds nice. Apparently they make a Prius hatchback thing, its kinda ugly but its starting price is $18,950 and it gets slightly better mileage in the city (53 vs the normal Prius's 51).

    Id kill for a RS4 Avant. Like, kill. Okay, maybe not kill, but Id definitely consider doing some unspeakable things.

    Slider wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    Slider wrote: »
    Found it. I just need the price lowered to around $15k.

    Any of you have anything negative to say about the Mazdaspeed3?

    Assuming the car checks out, it looks pretty good to me (given my cursory glance). The Mazdaspeed3 is pretty sweet.

    Id totally try to talk them down to below 15k, especially if you already have financing and can just offer them 15k in cash right then.

    Nevermind. It's gone.

    :(

    japan wrote: »
    There are a lot of new generation diesels that deliver essentially the same economy and emissions as a Prius, and are significantly cheaper (Renault Megane, Volvo C30, Hyundai i30, etc). They pretty much all do around 90mpg (using UK gallons) and emit around 90 g/km of CO2. Plus you don't have to worry about the environmental impact of the heavy metals in the battery.

    It does kind of make me wonder why there isn't a diesel Prius, though.


    I don't think he's in the UK. Here in the States we don't get any of that cool stuff. We do have 15 different gigantic SUV models though. Cause they are so great. The Hyundai is coming over, sans Diesel options, that's par for the course. If you want a diesel car, you're basically stuck with VW.

    Yeah, I think thats our (and by our I mean California's) fault. We set really strict emissions standards for diesels since our air quality was so fucking poor in SoCal (and really, in the Inland Empire/San Bernadino county area it still is. Its gross.) but now I think diesels are starting to pass under California's regulations which is really nice, the only downside being diesel fuel isnt as easy to come by as it was even just 15 years ago. On the plus side though, you can no actually see downtown Los Angeles from Griffith Park, clear as day (we're talking a 4 mile distance as the crow flies that at one point wasnt visible).

    While I would consider a diesel, finding gas stations to fill my tank would definitely be a consideration.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    Still, if you break the math down, the gas savings versus price of entry takes years to equalize. And there's the battery, one of my regulars just had to replace one in his '02, that was over 4k. (I think, foggy memory, I thought 6k initially, but that's way too much, we didn't do the work, we were just chatting about it.) His ABS controller just died too, that was $2200 or something. It went from awesome nearly maintenance free to obscenely expensive in a year. I don't claim that's an accurate measure of the Prius' reliability, just my experience with one.

    I guess the batteries have dropped a bit recently, looks like around 3k.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Well, I also dont know if I could be happy with a Corolla; I think Id prefer another Civic (especially since the Civic is available with a manual above the base trim) and then prices start to sort of even out (but I also dont know if I could be happy with a base Prius-c, and the look of its automatic center console thing bugs me). Really, Im so far away from buying a new car that this is barely idle speculation.

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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    edited September 2012
    I couldn't be prodded into spending that much for a Civic or a Corolla with high voltage. I mean, they are just compacts, good mileage, low maintenance. I look at cars like that as tools, and there is no reason not to just buy an older one for $7500 or something. I look at a 2000 Civic as basically baseline perfect for that type of car. It's incredibly easy to work on, attractive, spacious interior and trunk, super cheap parts, great gas mileage. After that Honda started screwing them up, and Toyota nor Nissan ever managed to get to that point. For what it does, it does perfectly.

    I'm always looking for something new though, sometimes idly, sometimes really idly. I get bored with my cars too easily.

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    Gearing up for my winter project. I'm picking up a 91 Jeep Cherokee with a blown transmission from a buddy for $300. Going to pull out the 4.0 high Output straight six and going to convert it to a 4.7L stroker motor and put it into my current '89 Cherokee. Going to put a 3" lift and some stronger drivetrain mechanicals and call it a day. Should see a decent high RPM performance gain and an absolute shit ton of low end torque.

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    MyDcmbrMyDcmbr PEWPEWPEW!!! America's WangRegistered User regular
    Just got done my first real roadtrip in the Genesis sedan.

    300 miles on the interstate at 70mph averaged 32.1 mpg. :D

    Steam
    So we get stiff once in a while. So we have a little fun. What’s wrong with that? This is a free country, isn’t it? I can take my panda any place I want to. And if I wanna buy it a drink, that’s my business.
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    Wicked Uncle ErnieWicked Uncle Ernie Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Gearing up for my winter project. I'm picking up a 91 Jeep Cherokee with a blown transmission from a buddy for $300. Going to pull out the 4.0 high Output straight six and going to convert it to a 4.7L stroker motor and put it into my current '89 Cherokee. Going to put a 3" lift and some stronger drivetrain mechanicals and call it a day. Should see a decent high RPM performance gain and an absolute shit ton of low end torque.

    This is a project I wholeheartedly approve of. I seriously doubt you'll see any high rpm anything, as that's not a high rpm motor, and the stroker kit (or however you're doing it, guts from the 4.2?) will lower that range even more. Still, we took one out to the track and it ran a decent 15 on 31s. The Ford Turbo Diesel on 40s ran much the same. Which was hilarious.

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    webguy20webguy20 I spend too much time on the Internet Registered User regular
    webguy20 wrote: »
    Gearing up for my winter project. I'm picking up a 91 Jeep Cherokee with a blown transmission from a buddy for $300. Going to pull out the 4.0 high Output straight six and going to convert it to a 4.7L stroker motor and put it into my current '89 Cherokee. Going to put a 3" lift and some stronger drivetrain mechanicals and call it a day. Should see a decent high RPM performance gain and an absolute shit ton of low end torque.

    This is a project I wholeheartedly approve of. I seriously doubt you'll see any high rpm anything, as that's not a high rpm motor, and the stroker kit (or however you're doing it, guts from the 4.2?) will lower that range even more. Still, we took one out to the track and it ran a decent 15 on 31s. The Ford Turbo Diesel on 40s ran much the same. Which was hilarious.

    well high RPM relatively speaking. I've heard of decent power increases at highway speeds, like for passing and such. Also yes, the guts from a 4.2, gonna see if I can scrounge a manual transmission as well, though I don't know how hard it is to convert an auto to manual.

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