webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Huzzah.
Pretty sure my drivers side brake has seized on the crown victoria. The burning brake pad smell and enormous amount of heat, along with no slop like if a bearing goes, has me almost convinced. I'll pull the wheel off tomorrow to confirm. there's about $250 worth of parts and a morning to fix. Gah.
Pretty sure my drivers side brake has seized on the crown victoria. The burning brake pad smell and enormous amount of heat, along with no slop like if a bearing goes, has me almost convinced. I'll pull the wheel off tomorrow to confirm. there's about $250 worth of parts and a morning to fix. Gah.
Why is that $250 in parts? Do you have to replace just 1 caliper or is it more than that?
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
It's generally recommended to replace both calipers one the axle at the same time when one siezes. Also, inspect the rotor and pads for abnormal wear, with possible new brake pads and rotor.
It's generally recommended to replace both calipers one the axle at the same time when one siezes. Also, inspect the rotor and pads for abnormal wear, with possible new brake pads and rotor.
Bah! Go the cheap route. What could go wrong?
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
It's generally recommended to replace both calipers one the axle at the same time when one siezes. Also, inspect the rotor and pads for abnormal wear, with possible new brake pads and rotor.
Bah! Go the cheap route. What could go wrong?
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The rotor looks damaged from what I can see, so yea, thats two rotors, two calipers and two sets of pads along with two bearings, because if your changing out everything on one side to new parts, especially with brakes, you should change out the other side as well to match.
It is annoying when stuff like this happens. Wrenching for fun is a blast, wrenching to get to work is a pain in the ass.
L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
Ouch. My sympathies bro.
I figured I'd do the unsmart thing last month, when one of my calipers froze. I replaced the affected one. The other one then stopped working.
At least now I have two new calipers. The rest of my brakes are OK though. But yeah, it's a pain in the rear.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Ouch. My sympathies bro.
I figured I'd do the unsmart thing last month, when one of my calipers froze. I replaced the affected one. The other one then stopped working.
At least now I have two new calipers. The rest of my brakes are OK though. But yeah, it's a pain in the rear.
I'll take discs over drums any day though. Blegh drum brakes.
Ouch. My sympathies bro.
I figured I'd do the unsmart thing last month, when one of my calipers froze. I replaced the affected one. The other one then stopped working.
At least now I have two new calipers. The rest of my brakes are OK though. But yeah, it's a pain in the rear.
I'll take discs over drums any day though. Blegh drum brakes.
There's a 1965 Mustang 289 up the street from me, for sale, $9500. Super clean. One of the reasons I haven't bought it is it's got drum brakes all around. I looked at disk swaps and realized it would merely be the first of many upgrades and fixes, I don't feel like having a hole in my pocket yet.
Ouch. My sympathies bro.
I figured I'd do the unsmart thing last month, when one of my calipers froze. I replaced the affected one. The other one then stopped working.
At least now I have two new calipers. The rest of my brakes are OK though. But yeah, it's a pain in the rear.
I'll take discs over drums any day though. Blegh drum brakes.
At some point in the near future I will have to replace the read drum pads on my wife's civic. On a scale from 1 to FUCK NO what would you guys rate doing that job? I've done disc brakes a few times and looked up the directions for drum brakes. It looks more complicated but I'm just wondering if it is easy to fuck up?
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Donovan PuppyfuckerA dagger in the dark isworth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered Userregular
Ouch. My sympathies bro.
I figured I'd do the unsmart thing last month, when one of my calipers froze. I replaced the affected one. The other one then stopped working.
At least now I have two new calipers. The rest of my brakes are OK though. But yeah, it's a pain in the rear.
I'll take discs over drums any day though. Blegh drum brakes.
At some point in the near future I will have to replace the read drum pads on my wife's civic. On a scale from 1 to FUCK NO what would you guys rate doing that job? I've done disc brakes a few times and looked up the directions for drum brakes. It looks more complicated but I'm just wondering if it is easy to fuck up?
Drum shoes aren't hard. Just require a tool to help you lever the return springs off. Whether you buy a special tool from autozone for a couple of bucks or just butcher a screwdriver is up to you. There is almost guaranteed to be a video on Youtube showing the procedure for your exact model and year Civic.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
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Alright folks, pulled off the wheel of the crown vic and the brake caliper is seized up. I can still turn the disc If I get it a bit of muscle, so it isn't terrible.
Here's the question, the disc still looks to be in good shape, can I get away without changing them and just go with the new calipers and pads?
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As long as the disc isn't below minimum thickness, has no cracks, and it not warped, you're o.k.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
yea I used a straight edge on it, and it seemed flat. Happily it seems the brakes didn't seize up with an emergency stop level of force, so while there was a shit ton of heat, it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
yea I used a straight edge on it, and it seemed flat. Happily it seems the brakes didn't seize up with an emergency stop level of force, so while there was a shit ton of heat, it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
You can take em to Napa or whatever and have them cut as well.
yea I used a straight edge on it, and it seemed flat. Happily it seems the brakes didn't seize up with an emergency stop level of force, so while there was a shit ton of heat, it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
You can take em to Napa or whatever and have them cut as well.
Eh, skimming discs is a rort. Unless they are seriously fucked up/warped (in which case you should be replacing them anyway), all it actually does is take a bit more life out of them. You can rough a glaze off with some sandpaper and your hand if they're too glossy.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
ehhh I just bought new ones. They weren't that expensive.
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Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I actually got a caliper replaced at the dealership recently, they only did the one IIRC.
Feeling more dicked than usual.
If the car is still pretty low miles I wouldn't worry about it. Mine has 160k and used to be a taxi, so lots of hard use on the brakes, I wanted to be safe than sorry. dual caliper failures are pretty rare on normal commuter cars unless there is a larger problem in the brake system. My jeep is at 268k miles on its original calipers and running strong.
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
In Southern California, all the bolts come out like that on the first try....
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webguy20I spend too much time on the InternetRegistered Userregular
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
In Southern California, all the bolts come out like that on the first try....
Well now you've just gone and made me jealous. I hope you're happy.
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
In Southern California, all the bolts come out like that on the first try....
Well now you've just gone and made me jealous. I hope you're happy.
He forgot to mention soaking the whole car in a penetrene dip bath for 48 hours first, don't worry...
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
In Southern California, all the bolts come out like that on the first try....
Well now you've just gone and made me jealous. I hope you're happy.
He forgot to mention soaking the whole car in a penetrene dip bath for 48 hours first, don't worry...
Nah, California has no salt and no moisture. Cars remain in pristine shape, they just get dusty.
Aaaaand just changed them out this morning. Of course it doesn't go as easy as the youtube videos show.
I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
In Southern California, all the bolts come out like that on the first try....
Well now you've just gone and made me jealous. I hope you're happy.
He forgot to mention soaking the whole car in a penetrene dip bath for 48 hours first, don't worry...
Nah, California has no salt and no moisture. Cars remain in pristine shape, they just get dusty.
Well, apart from sun bleached paint and cracked leather interiors.
Anywhere really, the one I'm looking at is 5 hours away.
Anyone know some good ~10k buys? I never liked Honda but the RSX fit so many needs perfectly.
Was looking at some WRXs, GTi wasn't bring up much of anything good.. I actually drove a Cooper S the other day but was not thrilled by it.
I love my '11 WRX, but the blue book is like 20k on that year. They hold their value well, I'd suspect because those that have one don't want to get rid of it.
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L Ron HowardThe duckMinnesotaRegistered Userregular
You have to get pretty old to find a WRX in that range. Maybe the '02s? If you want the Subaru turbo+AWD combo, they also have the lesser-known Baja GTs and Legacy GTs. You could try there.
Finding an unmolested RSX-S is a Sysphean task. Well, finding anything decently fun is going to be hard, for that price.
If you're American you should be able to easily get a decent WRX in that price range. My 2005 Saab 9-2x Aero (basically a 2005 WRX with a Saab badge) was $10,500 CDN when I bought it a year ago. It's if you go for the WRX STi that big bucks start to be asked for.
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Pretty sure my drivers side brake has seized on the crown victoria. The burning brake pad smell and enormous amount of heat, along with no slop like if a bearing goes, has me almost convinced. I'll pull the wheel off tomorrow to confirm. there's about $250 worth of parts and a morning to fix. Gah.
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Why is that $250 in parts? Do you have to replace just 1 caliper or is it more than that?
Bah! Go the cheap route. What could go wrong?
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Let's see if they say anything.
EDIT: Nope, not a peep.
The rotor looks damaged from what I can see, so yea, thats two rotors, two calipers and two sets of pads along with two bearings, because if your changing out everything on one side to new parts, especially with brakes, you should change out the other side as well to match.
It is annoying when stuff like this happens. Wrenching for fun is a blast, wrenching to get to work is a pain in the ass.
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I figured I'd do the unsmart thing last month, when one of my calipers froze. I replaced the affected one. The other one then stopped working.
At least now I have two new calipers. The rest of my brakes are OK though. But yeah, it's a pain in the rear.
I'll take discs over drums any day though. Blegh drum brakes.
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There's a 1965 Mustang 289 up the street from me, for sale, $9500. Super clean. One of the reasons I haven't bought it is it's got drum brakes all around. I looked at disk swaps and realized it would merely be the first of many upgrades and fixes, I don't feel like having a hole in my pocket yet.
But it's so pretty...
At some point in the near future I will have to replace the read drum pads on my wife's civic. On a scale from 1 to FUCK NO what would you guys rate doing that job? I've done disc brakes a few times and looked up the directions for drum brakes. It looks more complicated but I'm just wondering if it is easy to fuck up?
Drum shoes aren't hard. Just require a tool to help you lever the return springs off. Whether you buy a special tool from autozone for a couple of bucks or just butcher a screwdriver is up to you. There is almost guaranteed to be a video on Youtube showing the procedure for your exact model and year Civic.
Here's the question, the disc still looks to be in good shape, can I get away without changing them and just go with the new calipers and pads?
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You can take em to Napa or whatever and have them cut as well.
Eh, skimming discs is a rort. Unless they are seriously fucked up/warped (in which case you should be replacing them anyway), all it actually does is take a bit more life out of them. You can rough a glaze off with some sandpaper and your hand if they're too glossy.
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I was lucky I had a friend come out to help. Right out the gate I snapped an 18mm socket on the bolts holding the caliper bracket on. Had to run into town to buy a better one. Caliper wouldn't come off the driver side until I used a breaker bar on it to pry it loose. One of the pistons would not depress. not sure what went wrong, but it had to have been inside the caliper, as the other piston depressed no problem. so got that side done and hooked up, then on the passenger side I had to use the breaker bar to get the disc off, as it was apparently bonded to the spindle. After it was all said and done it took me about 3 hours to do both front brakes and bleed the system.
Damn if those new brakes aren't grippy as fuck though. Hello stopping!
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Feeling more dicked than usual.
If the car is still pretty low miles I wouldn't worry about it. Mine has 160k and used to be a taxi, so lots of hard use on the brakes, I wanted to be safe than sorry. dual caliper failures are pretty rare on normal commuter cars unless there is a larger problem in the brake system. My jeep is at 268k miles on its original calipers and running strong.
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I'm sure this is pretty much everyone's experience with car repair. Should take X amount of time and it really takes 3X or more because some stupid bolt or something refuses to come off. CURSE YOU RUST.
Exactly, what the youtube videos don't tell you a lot of the time is they record on the 2nd try, after they've already broken everything free and re-installed it.
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In Southern California, all the bolts come out like that on the first try....
Well now you've just gone and made me jealous. I hope you're happy.
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Untappd ID: Discgolfer1981
He forgot to mention soaking the whole car in a penetrene dip bath for 48 hours first, don't worry...
Nah, California has no salt and no moisture. Cars remain in pristine shape, they just get dusty.
Well, apart from sun bleached paint and cracked leather interiors.
Anyone know some good ~10k buys? I never liked Honda but the RSX fit so many needs perfectly.
Was looking at some WRXs, GTi wasn't bring up much of anything good.. I actually drove a Cooper S the other day but was not thrilled by it.
Finding an unmolested RSX-S is a Sysphean task. Well, finding anything decently fun is going to be hard, for that price.
It has a 6x6 original shape range rover sitting in it
Hmm
Hmmmm
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No. That way lies pain and ruination.
Stay the course.