Definitely buying NFS and Ass Creed for vita Day one. (Will put me over the top for the $20 back promotion) However I'll probably need to make room before I can install them. Is it possible to delete the game data, but not the save for a digital game? If not, that is a serious design issue. (I assume I would have to back it up to a ps3 or windows/MAC)
I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
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It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
To be fair, I was okay with Resistance: Burning Skies, and it wasn't offensively bad, but it could've been, well, good instead of "Well I don't regret it, but..."
I thought Resistance was not great, but still good. That doesn't leave me lots of confidence about COD:BOD either though. I think that cross buy makes sense for small games that don't need a whole lotta work to do a proper vita port. For something like NFS however I would be willing to buy both versions if you got a hefty discount. (Like $20 off for example)
I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
So I'm pretty much deadset on re-purchasing a vita, after mine was stolen. Probably going to pick up the White AC3 bundle. Did they finally put ps1 games on the vita completely? I know they started with a few, has the library been fully transfered?
CorriganX on Steam and just about everywhere else.
It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Mind explaining why? To me that'd incentivise PS3 software sales over Vita software sales. Though I suppose there's also the perspective of essentially giving PS3 users "free" Vita games to push them to buy the system.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
So... Nihilistic is "reorganizing" after they release COD:BOD into a downloadable and mobile games developer, moving away from retail releases.
That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
I actually like the way it worked with The Show 2012: buy them both for $80. That way I'm not forced into the digital release of the Vita game, but I still get a nice discount on both.
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So at some point it seems the general feeling of "Crossbuy Vita games will definitely provide a PS3 Digital Copy" has shifted to "that probably won't happen" :P
Still no PS All-Star Smash Bros demo for us EU plebs either. Seems it mistakenly was restricted to PS+ despite the very clear "will be available to all Vita users, not just PS+" claims. :I
I have to say - as a lifelong XBox user, who's never even considered a PS3, I am damn near on the brink of buying one after just under a month of the Vita.
I love this thing, and the advantages of PS+ and crossbuy (along with the promise of remote play for niche things like Tokyo Jungle) have me really, really looking forward to black friday.
Also - can anyone recommend some good PSP games I may have missed out on over the years? I got a good deal on Patapon 2, and holy shit. How did I never play this?
I've seen things like flOw, Echochrome...they sound familiar and I'm not sure if they're worth the price. Also, the old GTA PSP games.
It's SO obvious the quality of the graphics dips on PSP games, but the art in Patapon makes it much less irritating. Any advice on some good PSP games for the Vita would be appreciated!
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I've got an enormous list in the OP but my short list would be Killzone: Liberation, Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror, LoH: Trails in the Sky, Half Minute Hero, Tactics Ogre, FFT: War of the Lions, Dissidia 012 (has the original Dissidia packed in, you don't need both), PixelJunk Monsters Deluxe and Persona 3: Portable. Oh and Jeanne d'Arc, though I only ever played the physical version (never got a PAL release).
flOw and Echochrome are the same games that appear on the PS3, so if you're interested, they should be fine. One benefit the PSP version of flOw has is that you don't need to use the Sixaxis sensors to control movement like the PS3 version (though you get used to that anyway).
Remember that you can also press down on the screen in a PSP game to access emulator options that let you remap buttons around, add bilinear filtering and a few other options. Tips are mentioned in the OP.
What type of genres are youn interested in mxmarks? The PSP was -the- RPG/SRPG console "last" gen so if you say one of those the list will probably be a mile long with sub-categeories. It helps to be specefic with your tastes so we can give recomendations that match up. 2D Platformers? 3D Platformers? Action/Adventure games? Rhythm games?
I have to say - as a lifelong XBox user, who's never even considered a PS3, I am damn near on the brink of buying one after just under a month of the Vita.
I love this thing, and the advantages of PS+ and crossbuy (along with the promise of remote play for niche things like Tokyo Jungle) have me really, really looking forward to black friday.
Also - can anyone recommend some good PSP games I may have missed out on over the years? I got a good deal on Patapon 2, and holy shit. How did I never play this?
I've seen things like flOw, Echochrome...they sound familiar and I'm not sure if they're worth the price. Also, the old GTA PSP games.
It's SO obvious the quality of the graphics dips on PSP games, but the art in Patapon makes it much less irritating. Any advice on some good PSP games for the Vita would be appreciated!
Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Crimson Gem Saga
Gungnir
Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 1-3 (more specifically 3)
Wild Arms XF (disclaimer: it's preachy)
Z.H.P.
Yggdra Union
I'm a sucker for real quirky stuff. Patapon has me hooked, and since this is my first Sony device since the PSX (my roomate had a PS2 so I did get to play some gems there...) I'm looking for the stuff that never went cross platform, and stuff I remember reading about here and there.
So far I've picked up Little Big Planet (which, on an unrelated note, i feel like I'm collecting WAY more than actually is available to my sackboy...is some costume stuff only in build mode? I havent touched anything but story yet), Uncharted and Katamari - stuff I couldn't get on my XBox (well, Katamari I just couldn't resist).
I enjoy JRPG's and RPG's, and am up to pretty much try anything. Past favorite games include stuff ranging from Alan Wake and Deadly Premonition, to Elite Beat Agents, Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright.
Thanks for the help everyone!
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It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Mind explaining why? To me that'd incentivise PS3 software sales over Vita software sales. Though I suppose there's also the perspective of essentially giving PS3 users "free" Vita games to push them to buy the system.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
So... Nihilistic is "reorganizing" after they release COD:BOD into a downloadable and mobile games developer, moving away from retail releases.
That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
Because I don't see as many publishers willing to do both for one price. Getting the Vita version free with the more expensive PS3 purchase just makes more sense than being forced to price both versions the same, when the two platforms do not have the same prices as a rule.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
I'd say the bigger problem will be getting third parties to do crossbuy in the first place. Not only will most of them be hesitant to give away a second game for free, but there's also the added cost of doing another day and date port with essentially no compensation.
I'm a sucker for real quirky stuff. Patapon has me hooked, and since this is my first Sony device since the PSX (my roomate had a PS2 so I did get to play some gems there...) I'm looking for the stuff that never went cross platform, and stuff I remember reading about here and there.
So far I've picked up Little Big Planet (which, on an unrelated note, i feel like I'm collecting WAY more than actually is available to my sackboy...is some costume stuff only in build mode? I havent touched anything but story yet), Uncharted and Katamari - stuff I couldn't get on my XBox (well, Katamari I just couldn't resist).
I enjoy JRPG's and RPG's, and am up to pretty much try anything. Past favorite games include stuff ranging from Alan Wake and Deadly Premonition, to Elite Beat Agents, Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright.
Thanks for the help everyone!
If you like Elite Beat Agents check out the Vita DJ Max game that's coming out soon. Patapon 3 plays very differently than 1 and 2 so I can't fully recomend it like I recomend those.
Since you like both Horror and puzzles with your almost-visual novels take a look at Corpse Party for the PSP (creepy as hell horror VN) and Virtue's Last Reward (Puzzle-slash-Horror VN) for Vita/3DS after you play the prequel 999 for the DS.
For Stragety RPGs (oh lord, there's way more than this): Growlancer: Wayfarer of Time, Gungnir (and the other STING games), and the Valkyria Chronicles series (play the first one on PS3 before you play 2) are what's at the top of non-traditional SRPGs for the system. For the FFT-like take a look at Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than FFT), Wild Arms XF (hex based, focuses on synergy/custom-created class combos), and FFT: War of the Lions (way better than the PS1 version of the game.
There's also the quirky Disgaea series. 1 and 4 (PS3) are by far the best and the sony-portable remakes of 1-3 are better than their console counterpoarts. They're fun parody SRPGs that break the 4th wall and have decent sized main-storylines then completly overfill on bonus/post-game/alternate-ending/alternate-scenereo content.
For regular RPGs: Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky takes the crown prize for characters and world-building (though we're still waiting on the sequels). There's also Persona series... 2: IS, Persona 2: EP (if it gets localized) are old-school RPGs while 3+4 are modern ones with different gameplay mechancis. For 3 you have the option of Portable on the PSP (improved gameplay mechanics from 4 and an aditional non-canon alternate female protagonist choice4, but a reduced-to-menu-format world navigation) or FES on the PS2/3 avilable on the PSN (which isn't cut down, has all the origonal cutscnes, is harder, and has the canon epilogue 20-30 hour epilogue chapter that's needed to understand the story in P4Arena).
Not sure if you like Metal Gear or God of War, but there's good games in those series too as far as action goes.
Then if you get a PS3 look at the exclusive 1st party games, RPGs, and PSN releases... but that would be another post.
Its a shame Crisis Core never got a digital release, because that belongs to the short list of "JRPG games I actually like". (Up there with FFT, Jeanne D'arc, Valkyria Chronicles etc)
I’ll tell you what happens in Demon’s Souls when you die. You come back as a ghost with your health capped at half. And when you keep on dying, the alignment of the world turns black and the enemies get harder. That’s right, when you fail in this game, it gets harder. Why? Because fuck you is why.
I don't know if it will be getting an international release, but Sora no Kiseki (Trails in the Sky) is getting an HD facelift, so you might want to wait on that if you are thinking about getting a PS3. However, if you're like me and find you finish RPGs easier on handhelds, go crazy.
I am pumped for the 30th. I've got AC coming in the mail, going go get NFS on PSn and I'm considering Ragnarok. I'm hoping I get really sick or something so I can take some days off to play games!!
It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Mind explaining why? To me that'd incentivise PS3 software sales over Vita software sales. Though I suppose there's also the perspective of essentially giving PS3 users "free" Vita games to push them to buy the system.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
So... Nihilistic is "reorganizing" after they release COD:BOD into a downloadable and mobile games developer, moving away from retail releases.
That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
Because I don't see as many publishers willing to do both for one price. Getting the Vita version free with the more expensive PS3 purchase just makes more sense than being forced to price both versions the same, when the two platforms do not have the same prices as a rule.
I can see both of you guys POV on this, and sorry fro starting a debate with my comment. But the reason I said what I did was because I feel with a game like NFS, cross buy SHOULD be used, for the simple fact that they have repeatedly stated that the entirety of the console version is squeezed into the portable. So I feel like I'm getting ripped off if I pay for the same thing twice. If the game makes no use of communication between the systems, and/or is an entirely different game, then I dont feel entitled to cross buy. But if it is the same game, and you can switch playing the same save between the two systems, I feel a little entitled to only pay once. Just my .02
edit: like for example, I am ok with Ubisoft not throwing both Assassins Creeds at me just because I fancy the idea of cross buy. They are different games, therefore I should have to pay for them. However, if they want to, that quite alright with me too.
It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Mind explaining why? To me that'd incentivise PS3 software sales over Vita software sales. Though I suppose there's also the perspective of essentially giving PS3 users "free" Vita games to push them to buy the system.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
So... Nihilistic is "reorganizing" after they release COD:BOD into a downloadable and mobile games developer, moving away from retail releases.
That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
Because I don't see as many publishers willing to do both for one price. Getting the Vita version free with the more expensive PS3 purchase just makes more sense than being forced to price both versions the same, when the two platforms do not have the same prices as a rule.
I can see both of you guys POV on this, and sorry fro starting a debate with my comment. But the reason I said what I did was because I feel with a game like NFS, cross buy SHOULD be used, for the simple fact that they have repeatedly stated that the entirety of the console version is squeezed into the portable. So I feel like I'm getting ripped off if I pay for the same thing twice. If the game makes no use of communication between the systems, and/or is an entirely different game, then I dont feel entitled to cross buy. But if it is the same game, and you can switch playing the same save between the two systems, I feel a little entitled to only pay once. Just my .02
edit: like for example, I am ok with Ubisoft not throwing both Assassins Creeds at me just because I fancy the idea of cross buy. They are different games, therefore I should have to pay for them. However, if they want to, that quite alright with me too.
...which is exactly the compromise that I think Sony nailed with MLB: The Show this year. Same game, but no cross-buy? Well, if you buy them both, we'll spot you a Jackson ($20).
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Anyone know if there's any Vita skins or anything out there that sort of partition off the areas on the back touch panel that count as L2/R2 on default? Because, playing FF8 and running into the T-Rex thing without time to plink away at it means I kind of need those and it seems like I fumble around for a few seconds before actually finding them.
It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Mind explaining why? To me that'd incentivise PS3 software sales over Vita software sales. Though I suppose there's also the perspective of essentially giving PS3 users "free" Vita games to push them to buy the system.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
So... Nihilistic is "reorganizing" after they release COD:BOD into a downloadable and mobile games developer, moving away from retail releases.
That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
Because I don't see as many publishers willing to do both for one price. Getting the Vita version free with the more expensive PS3 purchase just makes more sense than being forced to price both versions the same, when the two platforms do not have the same prices as a rule.
I can see both of you guys POV on this, and sorry fro starting a debate with my comment. But the reason I said what I did was because I feel with a game like NFS, cross buy SHOULD be used, for the simple fact that they have repeatedly stated that the entirety of the console version is squeezed into the portable. So I feel like I'm getting ripped off if I pay for the same thing twice. If the game makes no use of communication between the systems, and/or is an entirely different game, then I dont feel entitled to cross buy. But if it is the same game, and you can switch playing the same save between the two systems, I feel a little entitled to only pay once. Just my .02
edit: like for example, I am ok with Ubisoft not throwing both Assassins Creeds at me just because I fancy the idea of cross buy. They are different games, therefore I should have to pay for them. However, if they want to, that quite alright with me too.
...which is exactly the compromise that I think Sony nailed with MLB: The Show this year. Same game, but no cross-buy? Well, if you buy them both, we'll spot you a Jackson ($20).
That was retail(disc) copies though, right? That I'd be cool with, but if it is digital I feel like a bigger discount would be nicer. I can see not getting a completely free hard copy because that shit cost money to make, distribute and it would take profits from the retailers. So, yeah, good point and also good info to have for future reference.
Anyone know if there's any Vita skins or anything out there that sort of partition off the areas on the back touch panel that count as L2/R2 on default? Because, playing FF8 and running into the T-Rex thing without time to plink away at it means I kind of need those and it seems like I fumble around for a few seconds before actually finding them.
I don't think so. Sony will probably add a complete remapping of buttons to the emulator at one point, so that'll probably be the best alternative. Though it took them a while to add that functionality to the PSP emulator, so who knows when they'll get around to adding to the PS1 one.
Anyone know if there's any Vita skins or anything out there that sort of partition off the areas on the back touch panel that count as L2/R2 on default? Because, playing FF8 and running into the T-Rex thing without time to plink away at it means I kind of need those and it seems like I fumble around for a few seconds before actually finding them.
I believe the L2/R2 area is located towards the top and middle of the back touch pad. My problem however is with the L3/R3 located near the lower area. I don't know why they mapped Start, R3, and any input to the right stick, to bring up first-person view in Vagrant Story. More remapping options would be really nice though, including mapping anything to the right stick.
It seems like a unidirectional cross buy system would work better for publishers. Like, buy the 50/60 dollar PS3 game, get the 40 dollar Vita game free, but not the other way around.
Mind explaining why? To me that'd incentivise PS3 software sales over Vita software sales. Though I suppose there's also the perspective of essentially giving PS3 users "free" Vita games to push them to buy the system.
I just cant imagine many games doing cross buy. Its such a huge sales loss in the long run.
Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
So... Nihilistic is "reorganizing" after they release COD:BOD into a downloadable and mobile games developer, moving away from retail releases.
That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
Because I don't see as many publishers willing to do both for one price. Getting the Vita version free with the more expensive PS3 purchase just makes more sense than being forced to price both versions the same, when the two platforms do not have the same prices as a rule.
I can see both of you guys POV on this, and sorry fro starting a debate with my comment. But the reason I said what I did was because I feel with a game like NFS, cross buy SHOULD be used, for the simple fact that they have repeatedly stated that the entirety of the console version is squeezed into the portable. So I feel like I'm getting ripped off if I pay for the same thing twice. If the game makes no use of communication between the systems, and/or is an entirely different game, then I dont feel entitled to cross buy. But if it is the same game, and you can switch playing the same save between the two systems, I feel a little entitled to only pay once. Just my .02
edit: like for example, I am ok with Ubisoft not throwing both Assassins Creeds at me just because I fancy the idea of cross buy. They are different games, therefore I should have to pay for them. However, if they want to, that quite alright with me too.
...which is exactly the compromise that I think Sony nailed with MLB: The Show this year. Same game, but no cross-buy? Well, if you buy them both, we'll spot you a Jackson ($20).
See $80 seems way too high for me. In that case I'd just not buy anything and wait a couple months to get one of the versions for twenty bucks.
Cross play is a novelty at best, I can't see many people stoked to pay for the same game twice, even at a discount.
Maybe make it so you get the Vita version as a download if you have Plus? I dunno.
An Assassin's Creed 3 "ultimate set" or "complete edition" would be really nifty. Get the complete story at a slight discount and/or with bonus stuff for buying them together. They don't make sense as a cross-buy title, but as a pair-buy title they might move some units.
About the emulators, I'm still waiting for them to allow full customization (mapping a specific button to a specific other button - not sets of buttons to other sets of buttons). Anyone that has tried VC2 on a Vita knows what I'm talking about.
Thing is, games make small enough margins when they aren't blockbusters.
There is very little Sony can afford to offer anyone to develop a game they'll literally see no return on.
Making NFS run just like the console version on the Vita probably cost them a farm. The mentality that them doing a superior and amazing port job should be rewarded with them not getting paid is...?
Thing is, games make small enough margins when they aren't blockbusters.
There is very little Sony can afford to offer anyone to develop a game they'll literally see no return on.
Making NFS run just like the console version on the Vita probably cost them a farm. The mentality that them doing a superior and amazing port job should be rewarded with them not getting paid is...?
What are you talking about? If people buy just one version of the game, they'll get money. The number of people that will actually buy two versions of a game is tiny. Completely irrelevant. Go take a look at the PSP's multiplatform software sales if you want proof of this. The idea behind something like cross-buy isn't about giving a free game away, it's about providing more value to the game. It helps incentivise people that are on the fence or weren't interested in it into buying the game just because it seems like a deal. The idea that separate versions == more money is the kind of logic you'd get from a robot/accountant and doesn't really hold up that well under scrutiny.
Out of curiosity, do you complain about SteamPlay? Because Valve came up with this idea first. They sell a number of PC and Mac games as just one purchase, instead of separately.
Edit: Just as anecdotal evidence, if NFS MW were a cross-buy game, I would've bought it, despite of my problems with EA. As it is, I'm happy to wait for the price to drop significantly.
On the other hand, I'll probably buy PS All Stars and R&C FFS/QF when they come out and a large reason for that is them being cross-buy games. Same thing goes with most cross-buy games actually, aside from the ones that just don't appeal at all to me (pinball, darts, bowling, etc.). And the ones I would've bought anyway, I only would've bought for one system normally.
A Mac and a PC are essentially the same hardware though. I know that that is a somewhat simplistic viewpoint, but the Mac/PC relationship is much different than PS3/Vita or even PS3/360.
A Mac and a PC are essentially the same hardware though. I know that that is a somewhat simplistic viewpoint, but the Mac/PC relationship is much different than PS3/Vita or even PS3/360.
Yeah, they are different. PS3/Vita have basically the same software environment, so code can be ported across relatively easily. PC/Mac don't and porting between those can involve a crapload of work.
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Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
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That gives me lots of confidence in the quality of their final retail release.
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To be fair, I was okay with Resistance: Burning Skies, and it wasn't offensively bad, but it could've been, well, good instead of "Well I don't regret it, but..."
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
Did you play Resistance? Because that should've told you what to expect with COD, ie: not good.
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Why is it a huge sales loss? Because SO many people buy two different versions of the exact same game? I call rubbish. I think they're far better off adding more value to the one (probably full price) purchase by offering both versions of the game. I mean, hell, Valve did this first!
To be fair, I doubt it's specifically because of CoD: BOD. I think they've just paid attention to the reactions to their games, seen the writing on the wall and are trying to get out while they still can. I think it's fair enough and wish them the best.
This is my PSN ID— Radthanael
Still no PS All-Star Smash Bros demo for us EU plebs either. Seems it mistakenly was restricted to PS+ despite the very clear "will be available to all Vita users, not just PS+" claims. :I
I love this thing, and the advantages of PS+ and crossbuy (along with the promise of remote play for niche things like Tokyo Jungle) have me really, really looking forward to black friday.
Also - can anyone recommend some good PSP games I may have missed out on over the years? I got a good deal on Patapon 2, and holy shit. How did I never play this?
I've seen things like flOw, Echochrome...they sound familiar and I'm not sure if they're worth the price. Also, the old GTA PSP games.
It's SO obvious the quality of the graphics dips on PSP games, but the art in Patapon makes it much less irritating. Any advice on some good PSP games for the Vita would be appreciated!
flOw and Echochrome are the same games that appear on the PS3, so if you're interested, they should be fine. One benefit the PSP version of flOw has is that you don't need to use the Sixaxis sensors to control movement like the PS3 version (though you get used to that anyway).
Remember that you can also press down on the screen in a PSP game to access emulator options that let you remap buttons around, add bilinear filtering and a few other options. Tips are mentioned in the OP.
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Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky
Crimson Gem Saga
Gungnir
Growlanser: Wayfarer of Time
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 1-3 (more specifically 3)
Wild Arms XF (disclaimer: it's preachy)
Z.H.P.
Yggdra Union
Also, I'm a little biased towards RPGs.
So far I've picked up Little Big Planet (which, on an unrelated note, i feel like I'm collecting WAY more than actually is available to my sackboy...is some costume stuff only in build mode? I havent touched anything but story yet), Uncharted and Katamari - stuff I couldn't get on my XBox (well, Katamari I just couldn't resist).
I enjoy JRPG's and RPG's, and am up to pretty much try anything. Past favorite games include stuff ranging from Alan Wake and Deadly Premonition, to Elite Beat Agents, Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright.
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Because I don't see as many publishers willing to do both for one price. Getting the Vita version free with the more expensive PS3 purchase just makes more sense than being forced to price both versions the same, when the two platforms do not have the same prices as a rule.
If you like Elite Beat Agents check out the Vita DJ Max game that's coming out soon. Patapon 3 plays very differently than 1 and 2 so I can't fully recomend it like I recomend those.
Since you like both Horror and puzzles with your almost-visual novels take a look at Corpse Party for the PSP (creepy as hell horror VN) and Virtue's Last Reward (Puzzle-slash-Horror VN) for Vita/3DS after you play the prequel 999 for the DS.
For Stragety RPGs (oh lord, there's way more than this): Growlancer: Wayfarer of Time, Gungnir (and the other STING games), and the Valkyria Chronicles series (play the first one on PS3 before you play 2) are what's at the top of non-traditional SRPGs for the system. For the FFT-like take a look at Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than FFT), Wild Arms XF (hex based, focuses on synergy/custom-created class combos), and FFT: War of the Lions (way better than the PS1 version of the game.
There's also the quirky Disgaea series. 1 and 4 (PS3) are by far the best and the sony-portable remakes of 1-3 are better than their console counterpoarts. They're fun parody SRPGs that break the 4th wall and have decent sized main-storylines then completly overfill on bonus/post-game/alternate-ending/alternate-scenereo content.
For regular RPGs: Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky takes the crown prize for characters and world-building (though we're still waiting on the sequels). There's also Persona series... 2: IS, Persona 2: EP (if it gets localized) are old-school RPGs while 3+4 are modern ones with different gameplay mechancis. For 3 you have the option of Portable on the PSP (improved gameplay mechanics from 4 and an aditional non-canon alternate female protagonist choice4, but a reduced-to-menu-format world navigation) or FES on the PS2/3 avilable on the PSN (which isn't cut down, has all the origonal cutscnes, is harder, and has the canon epilogue 20-30 hour epilogue chapter that's needed to understand the story in P4Arena).
Not sure if you like Metal Gear or God of War, but there's good games in those series too as far as action goes.
Then if you get a PS3 look at the exclusive 1st party games, RPGs, and PSN releases... but that would be another post.
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I can see both of you guys POV on this, and sorry fro starting a debate with my comment. But the reason I said what I did was because I feel with a game like NFS, cross buy SHOULD be used, for the simple fact that they have repeatedly stated that the entirety of the console version is squeezed into the portable. So I feel like I'm getting ripped off if I pay for the same thing twice. If the game makes no use of communication between the systems, and/or is an entirely different game, then I dont feel entitled to cross buy. But if it is the same game, and you can switch playing the same save between the two systems, I feel a little entitled to only pay once. Just my .02
edit: like for example, I am ok with Ubisoft not throwing both Assassins Creeds at me just because I fancy the idea of cross buy. They are different games, therefore I should have to pay for them. However, if they want to, that quite alright with me too.
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...which is exactly the compromise that I think Sony nailed with MLB: The Show this year. Same game, but no cross-buy? Well, if you buy them both, we'll spot you a Jackson ($20).
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That was retail(disc) copies though, right? That I'd be cool with, but if it is digital I feel like a bigger discount would be nicer. I can see not getting a completely free hard copy because that shit cost money to make, distribute and it would take profits from the retailers. So, yeah, good point and also good info to have for future reference.
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I don't think so. Sony will probably add a complete remapping of buttons to the emulator at one point, so that'll probably be the best alternative. Though it took them a while to add that functionality to the PSP emulator, so who knows when they'll get around to adding to the PS1 one.
I believe the L2/R2 area is located towards the top and middle of the back touch pad. My problem however is with the L3/R3 located near the lower area. I don't know why they mapped Start, R3, and any input to the right stick, to bring up first-person view in Vagrant Story. More remapping options would be really nice though, including mapping anything to the right stick.
See $80 seems way too high for me. In that case I'd just not buy anything and wait a couple months to get one of the versions for twenty bucks.
Cross play is a novelty at best, I can't see many people stoked to pay for the same game twice, even at a discount.
Maybe make it so you get the Vita version as a download if you have Plus? I dunno.
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About the emulators, I'm still waiting for them to allow full customization (mapping a specific button to a specific other button - not sets of buttons to other sets of buttons). Anyone that has tried VC2 on a Vita knows what I'm talking about.
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There is very little Sony can afford to offer anyone to develop a game they'll literally see no return on.
Making NFS run just like the console version on the Vita probably cost them a farm. The mentality that them doing a superior and amazing port job should be rewarded with them not getting paid is...?
What are you talking about? If people buy just one version of the game, they'll get money. The number of people that will actually buy two versions of a game is tiny. Completely irrelevant. Go take a look at the PSP's multiplatform software sales if you want proof of this. The idea behind something like cross-buy isn't about giving a free game away, it's about providing more value to the game. It helps incentivise people that are on the fence or weren't interested in it into buying the game just because it seems like a deal. The idea that separate versions == more money is the kind of logic you'd get from a robot/accountant and doesn't really hold up that well under scrutiny.
Out of curiosity, do you complain about SteamPlay? Because Valve came up with this idea first. They sell a number of PC and Mac games as just one purchase, instead of separately.
Edit: Just as anecdotal evidence, if NFS MW were a cross-buy game, I would've bought it, despite of my problems with EA. As it is, I'm happy to wait for the price to drop significantly.
On the other hand, I'll probably buy PS All Stars and R&C FFS/QF when they come out and a large reason for that is them being cross-buy games. Same thing goes with most cross-buy games actually, aside from the ones that just don't appeal at all to me (pinball, darts, bowling, etc.). And the ones I would've bought anyway, I only would've bought for one system normally.
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Yeah, they are different. PS3/Vita have basically the same software environment, so code can be ported across relatively easily. PC/Mac don't and porting between those can involve a crapload of work.