Not exactly. Sony just pulled the Christmas Day release, because having moviegoers irrationally avoid theaters during the holidays is worse for business than a few weeks delay on the release of a 2nd tier comedy. Besides, South Korean activists are already ballooning localized DVD copies over the DMZ into best korea.
Edit: speaking of, it seems the death scene for Kim Jong Un from The Interview has now been uploaded. Without further ado and the power of the Streissand Effect, here's what Best Korea has been trying to keep from being shown in theaters for the past month (of course, spoilers):
It could still very well get a theatrical release. Just not on Christmas Day, which is a pretty big movie release day.
They'll probably put it out in January of February. Things are typically a lot slower at the box office around that time of year, so if people decide to avoid theaters then, it'll have a much lower financial impact overall.
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"Huh? Wuzzat? That studio with the movie I'm in got hacked? Uh..took you long enough to notice, foolish Americans! Yea! It was me, I told the..guys to do the thing. Super hacked. That'll learn ya."
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Hilariously, it probably wasn't even North Korea that did the hack.
Having read about how terrible the security was on Sony's server, I think anybody could have hacked it after a few hours of reading up on hacking.
They literally had a file named "Passwords" with unencrypted passwords in it. You would have thought after the whole PSN fiasco they'd have beefed up their cyber-security somewhat, but I guess not!
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Hilariously, it probably wasn't even North Korea that did the hack.
Having read about how terrible the security was on Sony's server, I think anybody could have hacked it after a few hours of reading up on hacking.
They literally had a file named "Passwords" with unencrypted passwords in it. You would have thought after the whole PSN fiasco they'd have beefed up their cyber-security somewhat, but I guess not!
Different subset of Sony.
I know they are one mega-conglomerate but still they all act as different entities and have separate cyber security groups and IT departments.
Why do people think that North Korea wasn't behind the hack?
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Total speculation
North Korea has the reputation of a bumbling nation, unable to do much of anything right. When journalists visited the country, they found people staring at computers, but either not allowed or unable to use them. The reputation isn't exactly unfair, and so with a hack like this, that gets away with so much information, people assume that NK is not only not responsible, but incapable.
Of course we know that the hack was not terribly sophisticated, but the lay person doesn't.
there pretty sophisticated I mean their counterfeit currency is some of the best in the world. some theorize north korea bought the services of chinese hackers which is entirely plausible.
I sort of assume that while it's obvious the country is starving and such, some of the more relevant stuff that foreigners are allowed to see is kind of a Potemkin Village for tourists
I mean it could be that they just merc'd a hack via China or something, but I also imagine that they've invested a bit into their own capabilities; the stuff that we've seen via Vice documentaries and diplomatic visits and stuff is probably not accurate, at least in regards to their capabilities
I sort of assume that while it's obvious the country is starving and such, some of the more relevant stuff that foreigners are allowed to see is kind of a Potemkin Village for tourists
I mean it could be that they just merc'd a hack via China or something, but I also imagine that they've invested a bit into their own capabilities; the stuff that we've seen via Vice documentaries and diplomatic visits and stuff is probably not accurate, at least in regards to their capabilities
was on The Daily Show last week talking about it and implied that while she was undercover there teaching the future elite of the country, it was like 10 years ago or something and they didn't even know about the internet.
I have to believe that most North Koreans don't know about the Internet, because North Korea projects an image of the world to its citizens that things outside their borders are even worse. If there's one thing to invalidate that, it's the existence of the Internet, an invention so incredible that I think it's something you couldn't convince someone from a hundred years ago would actually exist.
I have to believe that most North Koreans don't know about the Internet, because North Korea projects an image of the world to its citizens that things outside their borders are even worse. If there's one thing to invalidate that, it's the existence of the Internet, an invention so incredible that I think it's something you couldn't convince someone from a hundred years ago would actually exist.
The one thing I've realized reading accounts of North Koreans who have escaped the country is that they are actually pretty media savvy. Tons of bootleg DVDs and other materials flow through the Chinese border and watching/trading Asian and Western movies is a national pasttime.
Of course, it's also highly illegal and could get a person killed or thrown in a concentration camp, but everyone does it anyway. That right there is highly suggestive of the actual relationship between North Koreans and their government. They are isolated, but they are not programmed robots who only know of Dear Leader.
* The massive number of organized Chinese smugglers and other criminals in the country are apparently another unintentional source of education for North Koreans. When you are surrounded by criminal foreigners who have more freedom, better clothes and massive amounts of money to bribe local officials with, you can't help but wonder about the government's message that you are the best off people in the world.
Honestly I don't think anything is going to happen. North Korea doesn't have nuclear weapons, but it doesn't need it. It has the equivalent of a nuke: the fuckton of artillery aimed at Seoul. At any time, if the world does nothing and North Korea collapses on its own, Kim Jong Un can snap his fingers and end 500 billion dollar trade and spread havoc upon 25 million people. He will never win, but he can definitely drag the whole world down with him. But as long as North Korea doesn't outright threaten to blow up Seoul if the movie comes out (suicidally), I see no reason The Interview can't be released.
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North Korea has called for a joint investigation with the US into the hack.
Cause they promise they totally did it. I mean didn't do it.
There's actually some reasonable specualtion that they didn't do it. If that's so, I just hope the U.S. doesn't double down to avoid looking stupid.
And honestly, someone needs to put a fucking muzzle on the FBI. If they're wrong, this is one in a multi-decade string of public declarations (Atlanta Olympics bombing, anthrax attack, Brandon Mayfield, etc.) made early in their investigations that ended up with the wrong people accused. This time, it could start a war.
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Welp, foreign crisis solved. We're all done here folks.
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We aren't declaring war on North Korea over a fucking movie hack are you kidding me ?
Not everything has military solution
Yeah, that's totally what "This time, it could start a war." means. Obviously. Only possible interpretation.
Or maybe I'm just noting that any exchange of tit for tat with a paranoid, unstable dicatorship with nukes and millions of hostages in Seoul could go wrong. Sensitive diplomatic situation, and all.
But, as you noted, I'm obviously wrong. So, close the thread down.
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Not exactly. Sony just pulled the Christmas Day release, because having moviegoers irrationally avoid theaters during the holidays is worse for business than a few weeks delay on the release of a 2nd tier comedy. Besides, South Korean activists are already ballooning localized DVD copies over the DMZ into best korea.
Edit: speaking of, it seems the death scene for Kim Jong Un from The Interview has now been uploaded. Without further ado and the power of the Streissand Effect, here's what Best Korea has been trying to keep from being shown in theaters for the past month (of course, spoilers):
It could still very well get a theatrical release. Just not on Christmas Day, which is a pretty big movie release day.
They'll probably put it out in January of February. Things are typically a lot slower at the box office around that time of year, so if people decide to avoid theaters then, it'll have a much lower financial impact overall.
Technically, isn't that every comedy?
what the hell?
Kim Jong UN is apparently a lot more sensitive about this then his father.
Having read about how terrible the security was on Sony's server, I think anybody could have hacked it after a few hours of reading up on hacking.
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They literally had a file named "Passwords" with unencrypted passwords in it. You would have thought after the whole PSN fiasco they'd have beefed up their cyber-security somewhat, but I guess not!
All is not lost. The Alamo Drafthouse will be playing Team America on Christmas Day instead.
Edit: Never mind! We're all a bunch of cowards, so that won't be showing either. Ugh...
Different subset of Sony.
I know they are one mega-conglomerate but still they all act as different entities and have separate cyber security groups and IT departments.
Also in real IR news around this.
US mulls retaliation over Sony leak
North Korea has the reputation of a bumbling nation, unable to do much of anything right. When journalists visited the country, they found people staring at computers, but either not allowed or unable to use them. The reputation isn't exactly unfair, and so with a hack like this, that gets away with so much information, people assume that NK is not only not responsible, but incapable.
Of course we know that the hack was not terribly sophisticated, but the lay person doesn't.
I mean it could be that they just merc'd a hack via China or something, but I also imagine that they've invested a bit into their own capabilities; the stuff that we've seen via Vice documentaries and diplomatic visits and stuff is probably not accurate, at least in regards to their capabilities
The lady who wrote this book:
http://www.amazon.ca/Without-You-There-Is-No/dp/0307720659
was on The Daily Show last week talking about it and implied that while she was undercover there teaching the future elite of the country, it was like 10 years ago or something and they didn't even know about the internet.
http://marcrogers.org/2014/12/18/why-the-sony-hack-is-unlikely-to-be-the-work-of-north-korea/
Edit: more in depth analysis here: https://www.riskbasedsecurity.com/2014/12/a-breakdown-and-analysis-of-the-december-2014-sony-hack/
The key thing here is that the hackers didn't mention The Interview until after the media did.
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Yeah at this moment it is best to assume the attack on Sony was from Best Korea. And proceed from there.
The one thing I've realized reading accounts of North Koreans who have escaped the country is that they are actually pretty media savvy. Tons of bootleg DVDs and other materials flow through the Chinese border and watching/trading Asian and Western movies is a national pasttime.
Of course, it's also highly illegal and could get a person killed or thrown in a concentration camp, but everyone does it anyway. That right there is highly suggestive of the actual relationship between North Koreans and their government. They are isolated, but they are not programmed robots who only know of Dear Leader.
* The massive number of organized Chinese smugglers and other criminals in the country are apparently another unintentional source of education for North Koreans. When you are surrounded by criminal foreigners who have more freedom, better clothes and massive amounts of money to bribe local officials with, you can't help but wonder about the government's message that you are the best off people in the world.
Honestly I don't think anything is going to happen. North Korea doesn't have nuclear weapons, but it doesn't need it. It has the equivalent of a nuke: the fuckton of artillery aimed at Seoul. At any time, if the world does nothing and North Korea collapses on its own, Kim Jong Un can snap his fingers and end 500 billion dollar trade and spread havoc upon 25 million people. He will never win, but he can definitely drag the whole world down with him. But as long as North Korea doesn't outright threaten to blow up Seoul if the movie comes out (suicidally), I see no reason The Interview can't be released.
So we'll hack a North Korean media conglomerate?
Maybe...
Cause they promise they totally did it. I mean didn't do it.
There's actually some reasonable specualtion that they didn't do it. If that's so, I just hope the U.S. doesn't double down to avoid looking stupid.
And honestly, someone needs to put a fucking muzzle on the FBI. If they're wrong, this is one in a multi-decade string of public declarations (Atlanta Olympics bombing, anthrax attack, Brandon Mayfield, etc.) made early in their investigations that ended up with the wrong people accused. This time, it could start a war.
Welp, foreign crisis solved. We're all done here folks.
Ok pal
We aren't declaring war on North Korea over a fucking movie hack are you kidding me ?
Not everything has military solution
Yeah, that's totally what "This time, it could start a war." means. Obviously. Only possible interpretation.
Or maybe I'm just noting that any exchange of tit for tat with a paranoid, unstable dicatorship with nukes and millions of hostages in Seoul could go wrong. Sensitive diplomatic situation, and all.
But, as you noted, I'm obviously wrong. So, close the thread down.
Snort. Is that your version of "Stop hitting yourself?"
Back to the actual news...
A look at North Korea's cyberwar capabilities