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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    To the entirety of your post Wyborn, I say Why not?

    I posit this question: Why is it okay for a woman to dress however she wants, but that same right isn't granted to artists designing female characters?
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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    I'm not usually one to buy collector's editions but if the Hyrule Warrior's one comes to America I don't think I'd be able to resist.

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  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    A lockdown on Fashion of Zelda is probably for the best.

    Link would win any theoretical fashion contest anyway since he has a lot of fans in the gay community.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    Oh I was right about the scarf. Cool.

    Yeah I finally got a chance to watch this, it's a pretty interesting discussion.

    One thought I had is that it sounds like Shia will be corrupted by Demise. I wonder if maybe she'll end up being Ganondorf's mother or something?

    They also mentioned what I said in the last thread (but sort of dismissed it), that her name is similar to Sheikah (specifically the japanese spelling - SHÎKÂ which is literally one letter off). It kind of makes sense that maybe she was part of the Sheikah if she was in charge of the Triforce. I do think comparing her design to Meg from OoT is a bit of a stretch though. I suppose there is some resemblance, but her mask reminds me much more of Helmaroc King from Wind Waker.

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  • Care Free BombCare Free Bomb Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    One thought I had is that it sounds like Shia will be corrupted by Demise. I wonder if maybe she'll end up being Ganondorf's mother or something?

    She's not quite looking like a Gerudo. Not to, uh, not to be fantasy racist or nothing.

    Speaking of, I hope we see some Gerudo in this, they were always cool.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    I guess in some interview they said there would be unexpected playable characters

    If they put in gannondorf with a sword that he can't use i'll die

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    BlueBlue wrote: »
    I guess in some interview they said there would be unexpected playable characters

    If they put in gannondorf with a sword that he can't use i'll die

    Some of the Gamexplain videos have mentioned most Warriors games allow you to play the villains in "what if" type scenarios. So I mean, if they are going to add "what if" storylines, they could technically pull in just about anything, even from other games/timelines (i.e. the Ocarina of Time sages, various popular Zelda bosses like Twinrova, etc)

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  • OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    If you can't rock out as a Dodongo while tens of enemies try to shove bombs in your mouth, I'm out.

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    If we dont' get a "what if" scenario involving Ganondorf doing battle with Demise I'm going to see it as a wasted opportunity

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  • Care Free BombCare Free Bomb Registered User regular
    I mean, if we see the Gerudo in the game and it takes place between SS and OoT we will very likely see Koume and Kotake in the base story.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    fi vs navi

    there's a 70% probability that you need to listen

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Navi wins. No matter how many times you try to get Fi to kill her in Ocarina, it never works.

  • RehabRehab Registered User regular
    Hey Link! Hey! Hey! Hey! HEY, FUCKING LISTEN! I think that witch has a crush on you!

    And when was the last time you talked to Saria?

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  • Raybies666Raybies666 Registered User regular
    Rehab wrote: »
    I would be very amused if a woman designed Shia's character, but I doubt that was the case.

    Isn't that what happened with Bayonetta?

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    So one of those environmental art pieces definitely shows Skyloft.

    I have to wonder: is it falling, or rising?

    Based on the condition of the ground under it I would say it's falling, but one cannot know for sure

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited May 2014
    Wyborn wrote: »
    So one of those environmental art pieces definitely shows Skyloft.

    I have to wonder: is it falling, or rising?

    Based on the condition of the ground under it I would say it's falling, but one cannot know for sure

    Huh? Which one? I don't see any that look like Skyloft...

    Edit: Oh, this one:
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    Odd, I hadn't seen that before....

    It's art though - I wonder if it's like a "this is the backstory of this game" thing, or if the game actually does take place BEFORE Skyward Sword. Which doesn't seem to make sense, except for this connection that Gamexplain actually found:
    http://zeldawiki.org/Hylia's_Chosen_Hero

    In that manga, Link looks almost *exactly* like he does in Hyrule Warriors. But the plot doesn't really work with what we know about Hyrule Warrior's plot - most notably that Zelda flat out did not exist until Skyward Sword. So how could she have been kidnapped here?

    I think it does take place after Skyward Sword, but probably happens very close to the ending of that game, so it makes sense to reference events of it (and maybe even events preceding it, like that manga)

    Edit 2: Oh, and speaking of screenshots I hadn't seen, I guess there are new ones again:
    http://www.famitsu.com/news/201405/23053716.html

    Mostly towards the bottom there - looks like a Wind Waker-esce story intro?

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    That could just be a sky island. Theres tons of em.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Raybies666 wrote: »
    Rehab wrote: »
    I would be very amused if a woman designed Shia's character, but I doubt that was the case.

    Isn't that what happened with Bayonetta?

    Completely different situation. Bayonetta's design was very core to her character. I very seriously doubt this character's design of TITS will be at all important in any way to her character.

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  • Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    I've gone into a degree of detail as to why I think that the design is erroneous: it is sexualized to a degree that has no real precedence in the Zelda series, as produced by Nintendo. It is visually incongruent with the rest of the designs seen in the game so far, aesthetically speaking.

    *snip*


    Aaaah why can't I both agree and awesome this post?

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  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Correction!

    In the last thread I stated that Impa's weapon is called "fat sword". That is, unfortunately, not correct.

    太 does mean fat and 刀 does mean sword, but taken together they usually mean "longsword".

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    McFlynn wrote: »
    I have almost no interest in Hyrule Warriors but I can tell it looks like a fun game. Never played any of the dynasty games, so I have no idea what it'd actually play like though.

    They're a shit load of fun. And they're good games, especially the recent entries. Lots of unique characters without being clones. Alternate-history what-if versions of the historical stories if you save your generals from dying when they're supposed to. Then the Orochi games mix Dysasty and Samurai characters together, include all kinds of crazy Gods, Western cameos (Jenne D'Arc) and awesome guest characters from other video games into the plot.

    The licensed stuff has been a mixed bag though. The One Piece games? Pretty good. The Fist of the North Star game? Not so much.

    @vagrant_winds‌ Nooooo... I loved Fist of the North Star!

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    Correction!

    In the last thread I stated that Impa's weapon is called "fat sword". That is, unfortunately, not correct.

    太 does mean fat and 刀 does mean sword, but taken together they usually mean "longsword".

    Lame.

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    That could just be a sky island. Theres tons of em.

    Do you not see the connected island with the goddess statue? :P

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    That could just be a sky island. Theres tons of em.

    Do you not see the connected island with the goddess statue? :P

    But... the end of Skyward Sword.
    The Statue was grounded. Why would it be flying again?

    Going to assume this is NOT Zelda cannon for now.

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Or the beginning of the End.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Statue's there, and Link has the Master
    sword. Yeah. Can't be reconciled to canon.

  • BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    More story details need to be revealed before I can do timeline shoehorning in my mind.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Also, this image

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    is, I'm guessing, from the game's intro and shows probably a previous Link and Zelda (in her classic, non-Skyward Sword design).

    Yeah, so far this game seems really hard to reconcile with the official timeline. If it does turn out to be a spin-off game and non-canon, I hope they go all out and let you play as characters from multiple games.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited May 2014
    Houn wrote: »
    Warlock82 wrote: »
    That could just be a sky island. Theres tons of em.

    Do you not see the connected island with the goddess statue? :P

    But... the end of Skyward Sword.
    The Statue was grounded. Why would it be flying again?

    Going to assume this is NOT Zelda cannon for now.

    I think it (the image) is either retelling the beginning or the ending of Skyward Sword, like in a story sequence at the start of the game.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I'm thinking of which literary trope to reference here. A "Crisis on Infinite Earths" alternate realities type of deal? Or maybe just straight up super time travel shenanigans. Either way, a threat to all time and space so large, it requires the combined force of every Link that's ever existed to stop it.

    It's every timeline and no timeline, since obviously nobody will remember any of it when the day is won. Problem solved, and we get a potential epic game out of it.

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    edited May 2014
    I think that gal's design could become better in our eyes if:
    1. She starts the game wearing something else before turning evil. I doubt it but she really ought to. More games need costume changes to suit the act.
    2. Her personality really suits it.

    Whats the word on Zelda getting kidnapped? I'd love to play as her for a change.

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  • BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    edited May 2014
    There is now a Hyrule Warriors game info page on the North American nintendo.com website. (Didn't know they re-designed their game info pages.)

    More screenshots, less boobs more Impa goodness. Some multi-sword special attack going on with her. It looks like the witch's localized name is "Cia."

    Description also says you can collect rupees to upgrade weapons and craft badges for ability boosts.

    Impa's attack I'm talking about:
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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    I think that gal's design could become better in our eyes if:
    1. She starts the game wearing something else before turning evil. I doubt it but she really ought to. More games need costume changes to suit the act.
    2. Her personality really suits it.

    Whats the word on Zelda getting kidnapped? I'd love to play as her for a change.

    RE: #2:
    Character profiles from Japanese website translated:
    Shia, The Black Witch
    An evil witch, who had her good soul chased out of her by dark forces. She has a strong sense of self, clearly states her desires, and a provocative and aggressive personality. She wants to make the whole world hers, but especially she wants to make Link hers.

  • Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    I guess Hyrule Warriors is the definite final title then.

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  • BronzeKoopaBronzeKoopa Registered User regular
    I think that gal's design could become better in our eyes if:
    1. She starts the game wearing something else before turning evil. I doubt it but she really ought to. More games need costume changes to suit the act.

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  • ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    The more I see of Impa the less I care that Link is even in the game.

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    The more I see of Impa the less I care that Link is even in the game.

    Yeah it'll be a nice change of pace to play as someone else.

  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    You know... I'd love a 2D Zelda that uses the art they use for the storyline stuff.

  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    I guess Hyrule Warriors is the definite final title then.

    Did you expect anything else?

    Dynasty Warriors.
    Samurai Warriors.
    Warriors Orochi.
    Dynasty Warriors: Gundam.
    One Piece: Pirate Warriors.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    Viskod wrote: »
    The more I see of Impa the less I care that Link is even in the game.

    Yeah it'll be a nice change of pace to play as someone else.

    Have Link sleep through the whole thing and wake up at the end going, "What?".

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