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[College Football] Alabama, Oregon, Florida State, Ohio State are in.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    I think where you're going to see them not do the straight top four is if this rating holds and there are four sec teams (Or any conference) there at the end.

    I mean I don't actually think that final ranking actually happens but like that's the scenario I would think they might deviate. Or even three.

    They all still have games to play against each other. By the end of the season there should be some separation there.

    Ok let's see if I can do this magic

    Alabama wins out, so they're a one loss team.
    Ole miss wins out, they're undefeated and they Lose To Georgia in sec championship
    Georgia wins out and wins the championship

    That miiiight maybe put three in the top four? Maybe?

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    I could see that. I just don't think we get 3 sec teams in the playoff. Almost certain there will be 2. But unless every other power 5 conferences best team is at 2 losses, no way of 3.

    Could see ND there too if they win out. An unbeaten marshall could make it for the weird factor. Or is it just power 5?

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Langly wrote: »
    Nirya wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    I think where you're going to see them not do the straight top four is if this rating holds and there are four sec teams (Or any conference) there at the end.

    I mean I don't actually think that final ranking actually happens but like that's the scenario I would think they might deviate. Or even three.

    They all still have games to play against each other. By the end of the season there should be some separation there.

    Ok let's see if I can do this magic

    Alabama wins out, so they're a one loss team.
    Ole miss wins out, they're undefeated and they Lose To Georgia in sec championship
    Georgia wins out and wins the championship

    That miiiight maybe put three in the top four? Maybe?

    I don't know. In that case, Alabama has 2 strikes against them for selection, both the straight up loss to Ole Miss and it being a rematch of a regular season game. Same thing for both Ole Miss and Georgia, I doubt they'd do the SEC conf rematch game.

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    The JudgeThe Judge The Terwilliger CurvesRegistered User regular
    I am enjoying the comparison of:

    Every BCS year: "There are like FOUR teams you could totally put in the title game!"

    This year: "So . . . how do we pick four without somebody burning something down . . . "

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    i don't see FSU not being in the playoff game in all honesty

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Fuck, forgot fsu. Picking today would be tough.

    Should be real seperation by the time of selection

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2014
    Langly wrote: »
    Nirya wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    I think where you're going to see them not do the straight top four is if this rating holds and there are four sec teams (Or any conference) there at the end.

    I mean I don't actually think that final ranking actually happens but like that's the scenario I would think they might deviate. Or even three.

    They all still have games to play against each other. By the end of the season there should be some separation there.

    Ok let's see if I can do this magic

    Alabama wins out, so they're a one loss team.
    Ole miss wins out, they're undefeated and they Lose To Georgia in sec championship
    Georgia wins out and wins the championship

    That miiiight maybe put three in the top four? Maybe?

    I don't know. In that case, Alabama has 2 strikes against them for selection, both the straight up loss to Ole Miss and it being a rematch of a regular season game. Same thing for both Ole Miss and Georgia, I doubt they'd do the SEC conf rematch game.
    Oh yeah.

    That'd never happen.

    Jesus did a rock bonk you and make you forget the past five years?

    Edit: hell, fucking LAST YEAR the number three team was an SEC team. And the team above them. Who they would have to play, was the team that JUST beat them. Literally iron bowl 2.0

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    After that fuckin snoozefest of a NC game, I think that is a last resort scenario.

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    The fact that the committee is going to release a poll is mind-boggling to me. What's the poll for? Why not just say "these are the 8-10 teams we are currently really looking at in no particular order"?

    I mean, I guess I do know the answer (so TV has something to talk about) but the fact it has to be a top 25 poll is still kind of weird.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    oh winston is declaring for the 2015 draft

    really following that johnny manzeil shit

    hope he goes to the browns

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    ohgod i'm dying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVZJmnDvfkM

    people really dont like FSU this season

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Mulletude wrote: »
    After that fuckin snoozefest of a NC game, I think that is a last resort scenario.

    And yet, if any of the committee uses "excitement" as a qualifier they should be fired from a cannon and replaced.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    The fact that the committee is going to release a poll is mind-boggling to me. What's the poll for? Why not just say "these are the 8-10 teams we are currently really looking at in no particular order"?

    I mean, I guess I do know the answer (so TV has something to talk about) but the fact it has to be a top 25 poll is still kind of weird.

    That's easy, for point allotment and to help them get an idea about where teams should stand after beating a team not in their top ten,

    Of course, mutliple ADs on the list have already said they can't keep up with all the games and barely the ones in their conference.

    The fact that athletic directors are allowed on the committee is utter bullshit.

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    November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    The fact that the committee is going to release a poll is mind-boggling to me. What's the poll for? Why not just say "these are the 8-10 teams we are currently really looking at in no particular order"?

    I mean, I guess I do know the answer (so TV has something to talk about) but the fact it has to be a top 25 poll is still kind of weird.

    The bids for the other four major bowl games will be determined from the committee's top 25 poll. Basically, they need a poll large enough to find the highest ranked mid-major team.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    So ECU.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    So UCF.

    Made some adjustments to that. I think it's better with 100% less mention of that team.

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    ASimPersonASimPerson Cold... and hard.Registered User regular
    ASimPerson wrote: »
    The fact that the committee is going to release a poll is mind-boggling to me. What's the poll for? Why not just say "these are the 8-10 teams we are currently really looking at in no particular order"?

    I mean, I guess I do know the answer (so TV has something to talk about) but the fact it has to be a top 25 poll is still kind of weird.

    The bids for the other four major bowl games will be determined from the committee's top 25 poll. Basically, they need a poll large enough to find the highest ranked mid-major team.

    Okay, sure, but I don't see why the poll is needed until before bowls are selected. Doing a poll, even starting in mid-season, introduces all the biases we're familiar with when it comes to polling, or as Jerry Palm put it:
    I also asked Long about whether he was concerned that by releasing rankings every week that the committee could fall into a poll mentality, which is that where teams are ranked this week largely depends on where they were last week. He said that he felt their process would not allow that because it starts over from scratch every week.

    I'm still skeptical, but the proof will be in the results, which will start coming in a few weeks.

    Palm also talked the about the data the committee members are provided: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jerry-palm/24750651/playoff-committee-data-wont-help-them-make-decisions
    So, while the basketball committee's process has always been a subjective one, guided by objective, if not overly sophisticated data, the football committee's appears to be a subjective process guided by mostly useless and even somewhat deceptive data. And in one important area, there is no credible data at all. It's hard to see how that can end well.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Oh and how some people on the committee will take winning a conference into account but still acknowledge the bastard existence of Notre dame.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Nirya wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    I think where you're going to see them not do the straight top four is if this rating holds and there are four sec teams (Or any conference) there at the end.

    I mean I don't actually think that final ranking actually happens but like that's the scenario I would think they might deviate. Or even three.

    They all still have games to play against each other. By the end of the season there should be some separation there.

    Ok let's see if I can do this magic

    Alabama wins out, so they're a one loss team.
    Ole miss wins out, they're undefeated and they Lose To Georgia in sec championship
    Georgia wins out and wins the championship

    That miiiight maybe put three in the top four? Maybe?

    Two loss teams from every conference including an FSU loss, you get a team in the SEC championship (let's say ole miss) through a convoluted tiebreaker between Alabama ole miss and miss state, each with a loss to each other.

    Then yes.

    Welcome to the SEC brand.

    Shit, people, thought we were hicks for chanting that shit. Brand development, that's what it was.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Mulletude wrote: »
    After that fuckin snoozefest of a NC game, I think that is a last resort scenario.

    And yet, if any of the committee uses "excitement" as a qualifier they should be fired from a cannon and replaced.

    Yeah, that is just my opinion.

    And really, it isn't the sec that is great. It's the sec west. Two teams from that side is the most likely unless uga runs the table through the ccg.

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    I have a bad feeling about the game on Saturday, but I'm the type of Spartan that's always waiting for the other shoe

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Nirya wrote: »
    Nirya wrote: »
    Rice is:

    A) A Stanford alum who has shown a deep love of athletics, specifically football, especially at a time when Stanford could reasonably be considered terrible (basically, she's not a fair-weather fan).
    B) Incredibly knowledgeable with regards to football.
    C) A female AND minority voice in a very white male dominated committee.

    Honestly, she is one of the best picks on the entire committee. My problem with the committee is more that the stats they'll be allowed to consider are hilariously outdated and won't provide a clear picture, and that at the end of the day we'll get something similar to the Coaches Poll. The committee really should have consisted of a rotating panel of some of the best college football writers and analysts currently around, who have the time to watch all the games and usually lack the regional biases that can be found on the current committee.

    So like... Chris Fowler and Spencer Hall?

    I'd throw in guys like Bruce Feldman, Andy Staples, Chris Brown, Bill Connelly, Matt Hinton. Guys who are basically constantly analyzing the sport with both their eyes and with stats to the point where they can make very educated guesses at the best teams based on sample sizes.

    This is a good list right here.

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    SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    Week 9

    The picks this week are sorta a random smattering of teams. Not a whole lot of giant games, but some interesting games never the less. You'll notice a certain game that belongs in ATS rather than W/L. It is my policy that the most serious of rivalries are never ATS. Sorry.

    North Carolina at Virginia (-7) - Sat, Oct 25, 12:00 PM ET
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10) - Sat, Oct 25, 12:00 PM ET
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17) - Sat, Oct 25, 12:00 PM ET
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17) - Sat, Oct 25, 3:30 PM ET
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1) - Sat, Oct 25, 3:30 PM ET
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State - Sat, Oct 25, 5:00 PM ET
    Temple at UCF (-9) - Sat, Oct 25, 5:00 PM ET
    UTEP at UTSA (-10) - Sat, Oct 25, 7:00 PM ET
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU - Sat, Oct 25, 7:15 PM ET
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State - Sat, Oct 25, 8:00 PM ET
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)- Sat, Oct 25, 10:00 PM ET


    Week 9 Easy Copy/Paste List

    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17)
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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    a5ehrena5ehren AtlantaRegistered User regular
    Week 9 Easy Copy/Paste List

    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17) - yay free point
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014


    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17)
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    Redshirt sophomore receiver Jhajuan Seales and true freshman cornerback Juwan Offray were arrested on complaints of public intoxication after allegedly being found asleep in a car in the drive-thru lane of a local Whataburger at 4 a.m. on Sunday morning, according to a story on the Tulsa World's website.

    According to the police report attained by the Tulsa World, Seales was allegedly asleep at the wheel with his foot on the brake while Offray was in the passenger seat when Stillwater, Oklahoma, police arrived.

    The police report indicated that Seales and Offray "seemed very lethargic and confused" after they were awakened and one officer reported a "strong odor associated with an alcoholic beverage coming from the car."

    Offray was also cited for hampering an officer after reportedly giving a false name initially before admitting his real name at the Stillwater jail following his arrest.

    Seales, a starter, is the Cowboys' fifth-leading receiver with 13 receptions for 236 yards and three touchdowns this season. Offray is a backup cornerback who has recorded three tackles in 2014.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    i just noticed that if I hadn't pulled a four in week two that I'd be tied or winning. curse youuuuuuu niiirrryyyaaaaa

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17)
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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    AssuranAssuran Is swinging on the Spiral Registered User regular
    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17)
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    That spread for the neb game seems awfully big. :bigfrown:

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    Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State

    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17) - I want to troll pick this one so bad but lolno
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU

    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling about the game on Saturday, but I'm the type of Spartan that's always waiting for the other shoe

    I would be shocked if Michigan keeps it within 30.

    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17)
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

    Why is LSU ranked again, btw?

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    BobbleBobble Registered User regular
    Why is LSU ranked again, btw?

    Because everyone is waiting for the voodoo game.

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    MulletudeMulletude Registered User regular
    Because les miles is a warlock

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    DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling about the game on Saturday, but I'm the type of Spartan that's always waiting for the other shoe

    I would be shocked if Michigan keeps it within 30.

    To me, it feels like the defense has been buying to their own brand a little too much and giving up big plays. I think we'll probably shut Michigan's offense down for the most part, but then they'll get a few big plays that risk momentum.

    Plus, Cook's form has been sloppy at times, so a big play by Michigan followed up by a three and out because Cook's throwing off his back foot and who knows.

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    QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    Considering the upsets this season so far, I wouldn't disregard the chances of any team.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling about the game on Saturday, but I'm the type of Spartan that's always waiting for the other shoe

    I would be shocked if Michigan keeps it within 30.

    To me, it feels like the defense has been buying to their own brand a little too much and giving up big plays. I think we'll probably shut Michigan's offense down for the most part, but then they'll get a few big plays that risk momentum.

    Plus, Cook's form has been sloppy at times, so a big play by Michigan followed up by a three and out because Cook's throwing off his back foot and who knows.

    We have no one who can make a big play outside of Funchess. Our offense is terrible. Worse than Purdue's.

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    GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    I have a bad feeling about the game on Saturday, but I'm the type of Spartan that's always waiting for the other shoe

    I would be shocked if Michigan keeps it within 30.


    Why is LSU ranked again, btw?

    Because SEC. I think they deserve to bounce in and out of the bottom 5 of the rankings personally. There is plenty of misery in store for them in the back half of this season. Let the fans enjoy their final moments of "glory".

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Mulletude wrote: »
    That spread for the neb game seems awfully big. :bigfrown:

    Rutgers is terrible. If you're not inexplicably allowing Gary Nova to be Peyton Manning for a night, anyway.

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    JimBobtheMonkeyJimBobtheMonkey Registered User regular
    Week 9 Easy Copy/Paste List

    ATS GAMES
    Texas at #11 Kansas State (-10)
    Rutgers at #16 Nebraska (-17)
    Temple at UCF (-9)
    UTEP at UTSA (-10)
    #13 Ohio State (-13.5) at Penn State
    W/L GAMES
    North Carolina at Virginia (-7)
    Michigan at #8 Michigan State (-17)
    #22 West Virginia at Oklahoma State (-1)
    #15 Arizona (-2.5) at Washington State
    #3 Ole Miss (-3.5) at #24 LSU
    GOTW (W/L)
    #20 USC at #19 Utah (E)

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