I hate griefing groups like this.
A lot of them say that they're just trying to show exploits so Valve will fix them. Yeah, but you're doing that by trying to ruin the game for a bunch of random people.
That same group exploited the shit out of snowplow on its first public release, unrelentingly griefing everyone on the official tf2maps server and giving everyone there a terrible first impression of the map, and then made a video on it claiming to be helping test. They never even remotely made an effort to contact the mappers (despite the feedback plugin set up on the server) and forced the mappers to rush like crazy to fix the map (right after crunching to do the public release) because everyone started copying the video the same day it released.
That same group exploited the shit out of snowplow on its first public release, unrelentingly griefing everyone on the official tf2maps server and giving everyone there a terrible first impression of the map, and then made a video on it claiming to be helping test. They never even remotely made an effort to contact the mappers (despite the feedback plugin set up on the server) and forced the mappers to rush like crazy to fix the map (right after crunching to do the public release) because everyone started copying the video the same day it released.
Fuck those griefing groups.
I remember one of those videos dropping... thought it was Delfy though (who absolutely is out there to grief, same difference though). In a map like snowplow, made by tf2-community mappers, not sending the info to the map developers is a dick thing, for sure.
On a valve map, where the exploit/bug has existed for a few years and has been reported countless times... I have less sympathy. I'm not saying that everyone should rush out and put a teleporter on the deathpit in frontier (seriously, still votekick the guy that does that), but there's more of a problem in that they've allowed a known problem to exist for as long as it has (same thing with the upward tele-traps).
A little bit of griefing is always hilarious. If you can't see the comedy value of dudes teleporting in and getting knocked into a pit by a sentry gun, well I'm not sure the internet is the place for you.
A new server is a few clicks away if it's that annoying, Valve's got hundreds of the things out there.
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A little bit of griefing is always hilarious. If you can't see the comedy value of dudes teleporting in and getting knocked into a pit by a sentry gun, well I'm not sure the internet is the place for you.
A new server is a few clicks away if it's that annoying, Valve's got hundreds of the things out there.
Nope fuck that.
Being a dick is being a dick, doesn't matter how easy or not it is to avoid those people's dickishness.
That same group exploited the shit out of snowplow on its first public release, unrelentingly griefing everyone on the official tf2maps server and giving everyone there a terrible first impression of the map, and then made a video on it claiming to be helping test. They never even remotely made an effort to contact the mappers (despite the feedback plugin set up on the server) and forced the mappers to rush like crazy to fix the map (right after crunching to do the public release) because everyone started copying the video the same day it released.
Fuck those griefing groups.
I remember one of those videos dropping... thought it was Delfy though (who absolutely is out there to grief, same difference though). In a map like snowplow, made by tf2-community mappers, not sending the info to the map developers is a dick thing, for sure.
On a valve map, where the exploit/bug has existed for a few years and has been reported countless times... I have less sympathy. I'm not saying that everyone should rush out and put a teleporter on the deathpit in frontier (seriously, still votekick the guy that does that), but there's more of a problem in that they've allowed a known problem to exist for as long as it has (same thing with the upward tele-traps).
Yeah you're right. I mixed up the groups. It was Delfy. Open Griefing has caused some crap it the past on the TF2Maps server so it was easy to confuse.
I used to drop an exit without an entrance into trap areas when playing as an asshole engie (wouldn't do anything, just sitting there inactive)... Occasionally I'd forget that I built that exit and plop an entrance down outside of spawn, so that I could help out the team... heh, whoops
Griefing is pretty subjective though. Some people will get upset about using well protected roofs or rocks (sometimes even poorly clipped ledges), but really, I think it comes down to a coordinated or thought out effort to play like an asshole. Griefing and hacking are pretty interchangeable to me in that regards.
OCCASIONALLY, things that can and should be considered griefing are funny.... like a teleporter into a deathpit where you nudge tunnel vision snipers/heavies onto the entrance. Just remember that it's a cartoony hat-centric game and that should never be taken too seriously
Hopefully going to have a new version of Probed up for tonight. There was another map someone from TF2maps asked me to have you guys test, too. We're becoming a useful source of quality play and feedback. Woot.
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I was kind of out of it anyway. Wasn't feeling TF2.
You'll have to trust me that it's you.
It also says what map it was taken on. Not a whole lot of games implement it.
I hate griefing groups like this.
A lot of them say that they're just trying to show exploits so Valve will fix them. Yeah, but you're doing that by trying to ruin the game for a bunch of random people.
Fuck those griefing groups.
My bad. That tends to be the excuse other groups and/or their defenders tend to use.
I remember one of those videos dropping... thought it was Delfy though (who absolutely is out there to grief, same difference though). In a map like snowplow, made by tf2-community mappers, not sending the info to the map developers is a dick thing, for sure.
On a valve map, where the exploit/bug has existed for a few years and has been reported countless times... I have less sympathy. I'm not saying that everyone should rush out and put a teleporter on the deathpit in frontier (seriously, still votekick the guy that does that), but there's more of a problem in that they've allowed a known problem to exist for as long as it has (same thing with the upward tele-traps).
A new server is a few clicks away if it's that annoying, Valve's got hundreds of the things out there.
Nope fuck that.
Being a dick is being a dick, doesn't matter how easy or not it is to avoid those people's dickishness.
inflicting it on a random public server is just mean though
But don't do that shit in a pub server, and definitely don't pretend like it's the other people that you're greifing that are the problem.
Yeah you're right. I mixed up the groups. It was Delfy. Open Griefing has caused some crap it the past on the TF2Maps server so it was easy to confuse.
Griefing is pretty subjective though. Some people will get upset about using well protected roofs or rocks (sometimes even poorly clipped ledges), but really, I think it comes down to a coordinated or thought out effort to play like an asshole. Griefing and hacking are pretty interchangeable to me in that regards.
OCCASIONALLY, things that can and should be considered griefing are funny.... like a teleporter into a deathpit where you nudge tunnel vision snipers/heavies onto the entrance. Just remember that it's a cartoony hat-centric game and that should never be taken too seriously
It's really hard to learn the ins and outs of a game when you only play for 3 minutes out of every 14 or so.
Fuck I miss arcadey mech games. But the only way to make money with mech games anymore is to capture the hard core sim crowd, and that aint me.
Thanks, Obama.
Guess what, it didn't win. But I still like it.
The effects of self promotion
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