No people are just pointing out the differences in how the police acted in these different situations. In one they over reacted, in the other they underreacted/acted as you should. One involved black people, the other involved a very dangerous situation. and yet the police response to the more dangerous situation is the more restrained response.
Okay, okay, I'll concede. Y'all are right. Police definitely treat majority white people involved in protests (seattle) and riots (any championship game in the midwest) than they do majority black people involved in protests (about police brutality) and riots (in response to abuse).
I guess we need to get the black biker gangs to go to Waco and find out just how this situation would play out, as they are completely separate incidents that really don't compare. Cause yeah, you had a shit ton of dudes sitting around guarded by guys with AR's and then in the other you had people demonstrating getting bumrushed and separated for arrest by riot police.
These are not events that really compare with each other. In one situation, you have a metropolitan area of 220k people and attendant police forces trying to de-escalate a situation, and in the other you have a metropolitan area of 2.7 million people and their longstanding police force tradition of abusing the fuck out of the black population cracking heads in response to them breaking someone's neck.
Yeah, the response was totally different. Do I sound like less of a dumbass trying to explain the way I've been considering these events? Or am I still a dumbass? Honest questions. No offense taken.
It sounds like you're taking offense for some reason at your local police being lumped in with the nation's police and lashing out in response.
But the fact that MRAPs are rusting away in warehouses after their wartime deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan was delayed due to partisan bickering, thus preventing their usage to save lives from IEDs; that pisses me off to no end.
No people are just pointing out the differences in how the police acted in these different situations. In one they over reacted, in the other they underreacted/acted as you should. One involved black people, the other involved a very dangerous situation. and yet the police response to the more dangerous situation is the more restrained response.
Okay, okay, I'll concede. Y'all are right. Police definitely treat majority white people involved in protests (seattle) and riots (any championship game in the midwest) than they do majority black people involved in protests (about police brutality) and riots (in response to abuse).
I guess we need to get the black biker gangs to go to Waco and find out just how this situation would play out, as they are completely separate incidents that really don't compare. Cause yeah, you had a shit ton of dudes sitting around guarded by guys with AR's and then in the other you had people demonstrating getting bumrushed and separated for arrest by riot police.
These are not events that really compare with each other. In one situation, you have a metropolitan area of 220k people and attendant police forces trying to de-escalate a situation, and in the other you have a metropolitan area of 2.7 million people and their longstanding police force tradition of abusing the fuck out of the black population cracking heads in response to them breaking someone's neck.
Yeah, the response was totally different. Do I sound like less of a dumbass trying to explain the way I've been considering these events? Or am I still a dumbass? Honest questions. No offense taken.
It sounds like you're taking offense for some reason at your local police being lumped in with the nation's police and lashing out in response.
I think what is happening here is DL is justifiably upset because any time something like this happens people go ha ha TEXAS amirite like those fuckin crazy assholes with their GUNS n shit just fucking BURN THAT SHIT DOWN ha ha
but is then carrying over that upset into this thread because someone started down that thread of goosery and got shut down
and now everything is just getting kind of muddled together because his point is you can't really compare the police response to this group of bikers all shooting each other to police protests - which is somewhat true - but we CAN in some ways compare because the police response to a group of bikers all shooting each other was more reasonable, which, good on the Waco cops in this instance for not being fucking chuckleheads, but it is still an overall illustration of the vast divide between societal response to black bodies and non-black bodies
for there to be a truly perfect comparison we would need, as he says, an armed group of black bikers all shooting at each other in a restaurant - but we aren't trying to make a perfect comparison, rather an extrapolation of police response variation dependent on skin color
Yeah my argument doesn't hold much water when you stop to think that they acted correctly when they were prepared, but....shouldn't a cop be prepared for any situation, spontaneous or no?
What argument?
I literally agreed the police did a good job in that situation.
I meant statement, not argument. Chose my words poorly.
The problem with Texas is we continue to sell the same image we've sold since the 1800s to the rest of America, and a good portion of our population buys into it wholeheartedly. The fact is that we're not a bunch of gun-totin', cowboy hat wearin', ranch ownin' good old boys who like to sit around and shoot people who are a different color than we are, but for some reason that's the image our state REALLY WANTS the rest of the country to see. Like the secession movement, which is still really fuckin' strong in this state, despite the fact that seceding would be the absolute worst thing we could possibly do. But it sends the rest of the country a middle finger, which is what we do because TEXAS Y'ALL.
It doesn't help that we continually put people like Rick Perry and Ted Cruz into power, despite the rest of the country responding with a resounding, "wtf are you doing?!"
But, as with any state, there's good and there's bad. We just, for some reason, fucking love to advertise the bad and never learn from it.
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At least Texas isn't governed by a mystical snake man
Nah we just have a guy who had a tree fall on him, then sued the guy whose property it was on and got a massive settlement out of it, then proceeded to support laws that make it harder for plaintiffs to win judgments in personal injury lawsuits.
EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
As a Florida Man I can confirm
It's all true. We're crazy, every last one of us.
No excuse me, I must go bury my RV and turn it into a secret survival bunker hidden beneath my second, less new RV (just to throw the others off the scent!).
EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
You just gotta divorce the idea of "Florida Man" versus actual Florida Man (or Texans or the French or whatever geographic group we are talking about at the moment). People generalize people based upon stupid regional things. It happens. It has always happened. It will always happen.
There are mean Canadians, sane and educated Floridians, progressive Alabamans, and calm and patient New Yorkers. They don't make the news.
But when Florida man decides to call the police to tell them that his meth was stolen by his illegally kept Bengal Tiger and now it's on the lose in downtown Melbourne, coaked up and hungry as hell, that's what people remember about your area.
ButtersA glass of some milksRegistered Userregular
The thing about rednecks is they're actually everywhere. Go anywhere that is far enough away from a major city and off the beaten path and you'll think you're in Bunny Kill, Alabama. This includes Canada.
EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
They don't even have to be outside of the city. A guy living in one of the downtown skyscrapers in Orlando decided he wanted to live on the "ground floor" and bought and brought up to his building level thousands of bags of dirt and sod and sodded his unit and the entire interior hallways overnight.
Once again the day is... something, thanks to Florida man!
Fucking Illinois rednecks, man...combine all the behavior you expect from a redneck with a Chicago attitude and it's an amazing thing to watch. There were some characters when I lived up there.
EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
You learn to not watch the news here. For every good story of crazy harmless stuff there are 3-4 deaths a day that involve things like beheading or coverings someone in gasoline or shooting up some old retiree's house because he stole the girlfriend of some geriatric NRA thug. If there are less than 2 suspicious deaths in the weekly news each night it is strange.
Fucking Illinois rednecks, man...combine all the behavior you expect from a redneck with a Chicago attitude and it's an amazing thing to watch. There were some characters when I lived up there.
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I suppose this applies to apc's as well.
But the fact that MRAPs are rusting away in warehouses after their wartime deployment in Iraq and Afghanistan was delayed due to partisan bickering, thus preventing their usage to save lives from IEDs; that pisses me off to no end.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
edit: I know that scrapping military hardware has it's own headaches.
I read this as ACP and got really excited
I think what is happening here is DL is justifiably upset because any time something like this happens people go ha ha TEXAS amirite like those fuckin crazy assholes with their GUNS n shit just fucking BURN THAT SHIT DOWN ha ha
but is then carrying over that upset into this thread because someone started down that thread of goosery and got shut down
and now everything is just getting kind of muddled together because his point is you can't really compare the police response to this group of bikers all shooting each other to police protests - which is somewhat true - but we CAN in some ways compare because the police response to a group of bikers all shooting each other was more reasonable, which, good on the Waco cops in this instance for not being fucking chuckleheads, but it is still an overall illustration of the vast divide between societal response to black bodies and non-black bodies
for there to be a truly perfect comparison we would need, as he says, an armed group of black bikers all shooting at each other in a restaurant - but we aren't trying to make a perfect comparison, rather an extrapolation of police response variation dependent on skin color
I meant statement, not argument. Chose my words poorly.
Mucho props
People at my high school thought I was a Crip for a significant amount of time due to me living near their territory and wearing blue jeans.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
literally every state does this and can we not do this literally 3 posts after we talked about how maybe lets not shit on texas constantly
It doesn't help that we continually put people like Rick Perry and Ted Cruz into power, despite the rest of the country responding with a resounding, "wtf are you doing?!"
But, as with any state, there's good and there's bad. We just, for some reason, fucking love to advertise the bad and never learn from it.
Florida Man. I don't think anything more need be said.
It's all true. We're crazy, every last one of us.
No excuse me, I must go bury my RV and turn it into a secret survival bunker hidden beneath my second, less new RV (just to throw the others off the scent!).
I mean, no
making fun of and stereotyping one place does not help with another place being made fun of and stereotyped
There are mean Canadians, sane and educated Floridians, progressive Alabamans, and calm and patient New Yorkers. They don't make the news.
But when Florida man decides to call the police to tell them that his meth was stolen by his illegally kept Bengal Tiger and now it's on the lose in downtown Melbourne, coaked up and hungry as hell, that's what people remember about your area.
Once again the day is... something, thanks to Florida man!
I mean that takes some effort
A list of things, should you be of the gifting persuasion
And I'm not even joking. It's horrific.
I'll take that methed out tiger any day.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
i hate illinois nazis