So Meltzer spills the beans on the alleged UT plans up till Mania, if we talk about this please use spoilers
Dave Melzer reported on Wrestling Observer Radio that the current plan for the Universal title is to have Goldberg fight Kevin Owens at WWE Fastlane (March 5). Goldberg would then move on to defend against Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 33.
Owens is set to defend against Sami Zayn at WWE live events heading into Fastlane, which would presumably become non-title after Fastlane, as they’re still scheduled. Goldberg doesn’t work live events, so if he wins the title, this will be the third year in a row a world title wasn’t defended at live events before Wrestlemania. Triple H went into Wrestlemania 32 as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion and Lesnar did the same before Wrestlemania 31. Neither worked live events at that time.
Meanwhile, Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman are set to fight at house shows leading into Wrestlemania, and their match will headline those RAW events. However, the plan is still for Reigns to fight The Undetaker at the event. It was previously reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that neither AJ Styles nor Kevin Owens would be champion heading into Wrestlemania.
So if this is true, Brock is becoming champ again unless Goldberg agrees to more stuff after Mania. And even then I don't see Lesnar losing this time.
On the flipside, Dean could be considered a bit of an asshole, even one with a code of honour, he fed Ellsworth to Brock for instance (which while funny is kayfabe brutal), but he feuded with the Miz (and maybe I'm just remembering wrong), but I don't think he ever brought up Maryse in a sexual capacity or tried to interfere in their relationship, he just called her out for cheating on Miz's behalf.
Well I mean Dean is basically a human Bugs Bunny and Bugs Bunny is basically the biggest asshole that ever existed
So Meltzer spills the beans on the alleged UT plans up till Mania, if we talk about this please use spoilers
Dave Melzer reported on Wrestling Observer Radio that the current plan for the Universal title is to have Goldberg fight Kevin Owens at WWE Fastlane (March 5). Goldberg would then move on to defend against Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 33.
Owens is set to defend against Sami Zayn at WWE live events heading into Fastlane, which would presumably become non-title after Fastlane, as they’re still scheduled. Goldberg doesn’t work live events, so if he wins the title, this will be the third year in a row a world title wasn’t defended at live events before Wrestlemania. Triple H went into Wrestlemania 32 as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion and Lesnar did the same before Wrestlemania 31. Neither worked live events at that time.
Meanwhile, Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman are set to fight at house shows leading into Wrestlemania, and their match will headline those RAW events. However, the plan is still for Reigns to fight The Undetaker at the event. It was previously reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that neither AJ Styles nor Kevin Owens would be champion heading into Wrestlemania.
So if this is true, Brock is becoming champ again unless Goldberg agrees to more stuff after Mania. And even then I don't see Lesnar losing this time.
So Meltzer spills the beans on the alleged UT plans up till Mania, if we talk about this please use spoilers
Dave Melzer reported on Wrestling Observer Radio that the current plan for the Universal title is to have Goldberg fight Kevin Owens at WWE Fastlane (March 5). Goldberg would then move on to defend against Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania 33.
Owens is set to defend against Sami Zayn at WWE live events heading into Fastlane, which would presumably become non-title after Fastlane, as they’re still scheduled. Goldberg doesn’t work live events, so if he wins the title, this will be the third year in a row a world title wasn’t defended at live events before Wrestlemania. Triple H went into Wrestlemania 32 as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion and Lesnar did the same before Wrestlemania 31. Neither worked live events at that time.
Meanwhile, Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman are set to fight at house shows leading into Wrestlemania, and their match will headline those RAW events. However, the plan is still for Reigns to fight The Undetaker at the event. It was previously reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that neither AJ Styles nor Kevin Owens would be champion heading into Wrestlemania.
So if this is true, Brock is becoming champ again unless Goldberg agrees to more stuff after Mania. And even then I don't see Lesnar losing this time.
That sounds terrible.
But you could easily see it happening sadly. However I'm fine with the
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
Finn probably won't be ready to go till March, so why would WWE give him a primo Mania spot
Because they had him beat Roman Reigns and win the UT like immediately after debuting
But then immediately got severely injured right after and torched their plans. Not that it was his fault, and I don't think WWE holds it against him, but I could see them holding off on another major run for him till he can show he won't get hurt again that quick.
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
Finn probably won't be ready to go till March, so why would WWE give him a primo Mania spot
Because they had him beat Roman Reigns and win the UT like immediately after debuting
But then immediately got severely injured right after and torched their plans. Not that it was his fault, and I don't think WWE holds it against him, but I could see them holding off on another major run for him till he can show he won't get hurt again that quick.
I mean
It wasn't because he's a fragile butterfly
He braced himself wrong while taking a move and then wrestled 2/3rds of a match with a ruined shoulder
Given that he's still all over marketing materials and games and posters and has been throughout his injury I sincerely doubt he won't have a prominent spot upon returning
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
He had a physical this weekend. If he was in any condition to do anything in-ring, he'd have been in the Rumble match. He's not going to be ready for a 20 minute match come Mania time, and I hope nobody spends 7 hours of their free time expecting it the day of or Mania 32 will have a far better reception than this one.
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
He had a physical this weekend. If he was in any condition to do anything in-ring, he'd have been in the Rumble match. He's not going to be ready for a 20 minute match come Mania time, and I hope nobody spends 7 hours of their free time expecting it the day of or Mania 32 will have a far better reception than this one.
Speaking of, Mania card
Goldberg/Brock Universal title
Bray/Orton World title
Reigns/Taker: Goodbye Taker edition
Cena/Joe
Shane/Styles
Show/Shaq
Jericho/Owens US title
Seth/HHH
Nikki/Mickie womens
Charlotte/Bayley/Sasha/Nia womens
ARMBAR
IC title multiman clusterfuck
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
He had a physical this weekend. If he was in any condition to do anything in-ring, he'd have been in the Rumble match. He's not going to be ready for a 20 minute match come Mania time, and I hope nobody spends 7 hours of their free time expecting it the day of or Mania 32 will have a far better reception than this one.
Speaking of, Mania card
Goldberg/Brock Universal title
Bray/Orton World title
Reigns/Taker: Goodbye Taker edition
Cena/Joe
Shane/Styles
Show/Shaq
Jericho/Owens US title
Seth/HHH
Nikki/Mickie womens
Charlotte/Bayley/Sasha/Nia womens
ARMBAR
IC title multiman clusterfuck
It seems very out of place for them to reward a guy that just got popped on (multiple?) PED violations with the big boy belt.
I sincerely doubt that Brock is winning anything
WWE isn't UFC
It still looks bad. Especially since they want to be perceived as legitimate to ESPN and the like.
They just did a big tribute to a person who very likely killed his wife, and got away with it in court twice. That looks worse than ignoring roids, which they've done basically every time but immediately post-Benoit
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
He had a physical this weekend. If he was in any condition to do anything in-ring, he'd have been in the Rumble match. He's not going to be ready for a 20 minute match come Mania time, and I hope nobody spends 7 hours of their free time expecting it the day of or Mania 32 will have a far better reception than this one.
Speaking of, Mania card
Goldberg/Brock Universal title
Bray/Orton World title
Reigns/Taker: Goodbye Taker edition
Cena/Joe
Shane/Styles
Show/Shaq
Jericho/Owens US title
Seth/HHH
Nikki/Mickie womens
Charlotte/Bayley/Sasha/Nia womens
ARMBAR
IC title multiman clusterfuck
Other than
AJ v Shane, fucking seriously WWE is it that hard to put an actual wrestler with Styles at your biggest show of the year
If you want the ensure everyone hates Roman forever having him retire Taker is the best way to do it. In fact I wouldn't be surprise if he gets a garbage shower Ala nWo era WCW if that happens. The only way it would ever work is for Taker to go out on top.
If you want the ensure everyone hates Roman forever having him retire Taker is the best way to do it. In fact I wouldn't be surprise if he gets a garbage shower Ala nWo era WCW if that happens. The only way it would ever work is for Taker to go out on top.
Assuming Roman doesn't change his character before or after beating Taker, yeah he'd be hated in the wrong way forever by WWE fans.
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
He had a physical this weekend. If he was in any condition to do anything in-ring, he'd have been in the Rumble match. He's not going to be ready for a 20 minute match come Mania time, and I hope nobody spends 7 hours of their free time expecting it the day of or Mania 32 will have a far better reception than this one.
Speaking of, Mania card
Goldberg/Brock Universal title
Bray/Orton World title
Reigns/Taker: Goodbye Taker edition
Cena/Joe
Shane/Styles
Show/Shaq
Jericho/Owens US title
Seth/HHH
Nikki/Mickie womens
Charlotte/Bayley/Sasha/Nia womens
ARMBAR
IC title multiman clusterfuck
love the sound of that last one
Just take out the word "cluster" and add "fest" at the end.
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
Finn probably won't be ready to go till March, so why would WWE give him a primo Mania spot
Because they had him beat Roman Reigns and win the UT like immediately after debuting
But then immediately got severely injured right after and torched their plans. Not that it was his fault, and I don't think WWE holds it against him, but I could see them holding off on another major run for him till he can show he won't get hurt again that quick.
I mean
It wasn't because he's a fragile butterfly
He braced himself wrong while taking a move and then wrestled 2/3rds of a match with a ruined shoulder
Given that he's still all over marketing materials and games and posters and has been throughout his injury I sincerely doubt he won't have a prominent spot upon returning
I agree I don't see them thinking he is fragile and not giving him a big space...but I can see them waiting to consider him in plans until they know he is back. Should he come back in time to work him in to a big spot...they probably will, but they are not planning on it until it is for real.
That whole thing reads like bad fantasy booking that somehow ignores the existence of Finn Balor.
Finn probably won't be ready to go till March, so why would WWE give him a primo Mania spot
Because they had him beat Roman Reigns and win the UT like immediately after debuting
But then immediately got severely injured right after and torched their plans. Not that it was his fault, and I don't think WWE holds it against him, but I could see them holding off on another major run for him till he can show he won't get hurt again that quick.
I mean
It wasn't because he's a fragile butterfly
He braced himself wrong while taking a move and then wrestled 2/3rds of a match with a ruined shoulder
Given that he's still all over marketing materials and games and posters and has been throughout his injury I sincerely doubt he won't have a prominent spot upon returning
I agree I don't see them thinking he is fragile and not giving him a big space...but I can see them waiting to consider him in plans until they know he is back. Should he come back in time to work him in to a big spot...they probably will, but they are not planning on it until it is for real.
Yeah let's not rush him back to the ring no matter how hard he's rehabbing.
Not everyone is Cena.
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WWE really has no faith in any of their full time roster except Roman, huh?
WWE really has no faith in any of their full time roster except Roman, huh?
Well I'd argue they have faith in Seth, Finn, and probably Joe.
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Those Mania plans don't sound super hype. But we'll see what they can put together I guess.
I do hope in the near future we get a match between AJ, Joe, and Sami or Finn. Get 3 of the best talent they have and let them go out there and show the locker room how they got things done with their way. Give AJ and Joe a chance to try and top that three way dance with Daniels they had in TNA. They both could easily pull out another 5 star match.
I love all the pictures of dudes riding in the go karts, it was the weirdest thing and mostly seemed reserved for the big dudes and I was really curious if they were showing that on camera or not, sounds like not. I'm also curious if any of the fix the screen chants came through, one of the big screens they have up top(the one facing us even) broke real bad for I dunno a solid 10 minutes or more.
Other than someone spilling beer on me at the end of the Styles/Cena match and the Neville/Swann match not being as exciting as I expected the rumble was really good. Was super excited my #17 spot ended up being Big E even if letting the New Day win the rumble was a pipe dream. Roman coming out definitely got a huge what the fuck from me, I was pretty convinced at that point he would win it after he eliminated my pick to win the Undertaker.
Didn't get any spectacular pictures from the night but I did record Undertaker's only intro as it was the first time I've seen Taker live and dunno when I might again.
Did Harper get no response as it comes across on TV?
Pretty sure when he came out the jumbo screens were out entirely, and the loudest crowd noise was another "Fix the screen!" chant that drowned out everything else. They probably just muted things to keep that chant out of the broadcast.
The only matches I would actually be way into are Jericho vs. Owens, Cena/Joe and Seth/HHH
There are other matches that will likely be solid matches but story wise, barring some really well done development, I am not into very much
Even the IC title match doesn't do much for me because its on Smackdown and the midcard of Smackdown doesn't do much for me unless, like, we get IC Champ Heath Slater
The only matches I would actually be way into are Jericho vs. Owens, Cena/Joe and Seth/HHH
There are other matches that will likely be solid matches but story wise, barring some really well done development, I am not into very much
Even the IC title match doesn't do much for me because its on Smackdown and the midcard of Smackdown doesn't do much for me unless, like, we get IC Champ Heath Slater
Also
No tag title matches depress me. I'm guessing the tag champs for one brand will headline the pre show while the other brand gets the ARMBAR.
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Owens is set to defend against Sami Zayn at WWE live events heading into Fastlane, which would presumably become non-title after Fastlane, as they’re still scheduled. Goldberg doesn’t work live events, so if he wins the title, this will be the third year in a row a world title wasn’t defended at live events before Wrestlemania. Triple H went into Wrestlemania 32 as the WWE World Heavyweight Champion and Lesnar did the same before Wrestlemania 31. Neither worked live events at that time.
Meanwhile, Roman Reigns and Braun Strowman are set to fight at house shows leading into Wrestlemania, and their match will headline those RAW events. However, the plan is still for Reigns to fight The Undetaker at the event. It was previously reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that neither AJ Styles nor Kevin Owens would be champion heading into Wrestlemania.
So if this is true, Brock is becoming champ again unless Goldberg agrees to more stuff after Mania. And even then I don't see Lesnar losing this time.
Goldberg vs KO hopefully won't be a 2 minute match though
Well I mean Dean is basically a human Bugs Bunny and Bugs Bunny is basically the biggest asshole that ever existed
Finn probably won't be ready to go till March, so why would WWE give him a primo Mania spot
That sounds terrible.
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But you could easily see it happening sadly. However I'm fine with the
But then immediately got severely injured right after and torched their plans. Not that it was his fault, and I don't think WWE holds it against him, but I could see them holding off on another major run for him till he can show he won't get hurt again that quick.
It wasn't because he's a fragile butterfly
He braced himself wrong while taking a move and then wrestled 2/3rds of a match with a ruined shoulder
Given that he's still all over marketing materials and games and posters and has been throughout his injury I sincerely doubt he won't have a prominent spot upon returning
He had a physical this weekend. If he was in any condition to do anything in-ring, he'd have been in the Rumble match. He's not going to be ready for a 20 minute match come Mania time, and I hope nobody spends 7 hours of their free time expecting it the day of or Mania 32 will have a far better reception than this one.
Steam
Akam's Rezar.
Speaking of, Mania card
Bray/Orton World title
Reigns/Taker: Goodbye Taker edition
Cena/Joe
Shane/Styles
Show/Shaq
Jericho/Owens US title
Seth/HHH
Nikki/Mickie womens
Charlotte/Bayley/Sasha/Nia womens
ARMBAR
IC title multiman clusterfuck
Steam
I sincerely doubt that Brock is winning anything
love the sound of that last one
It's too late now.
Steam
This is true.
WWE isn't UFC
It still looks bad. Especially since they want to be perceived as legitimate to ESPN and the like.
Especially now that they have him for more dates.
They just did a big tribute to a person who very likely killed his wife, and got away with it in court twice. That looks worse than ignoring roids, which they've done basically every time but immediately post-Benoit
Steam
Other than
That card sounds fine to me.
But I gotta believe something with Roman changes.
Just take out the word "cluster" and add "fest" at the end.
I was happy to see them at the Rumble too, but because of that spot, he is now in a predicament where he should be no actual threat to Goldberg
Also, I love Goldberg but he should be nowhere near either of the world titles
I agree I don't see them thinking he is fragile and not giving him a big space...but I can see them waiting to consider him in plans until they know he is back. Should he come back in time to work him in to a big spot...they probably will, but they are not planning on it until it is for real.
Yeah let's not rush him back to the ring no matter how hard he's rehabbing.
Not everyone is Cena.
I do hope in the near future we get a match between AJ, Joe, and Sami or Finn. Get 3 of the best talent they have and let them go out there and show the locker room how they got things done with their way. Give AJ and Joe a chance to try and top that three way dance with Daniels they had in TNA. They both could easily pull out another 5 star match.
Pretty sure when he came out the jumbo screens were out entirely, and the loudest crowd noise was another "Fix the screen!" chant that drowned out everything else. They probably just muted things to keep that chant out of the broadcast.
There are other matches that will likely be solid matches but story wise, barring some really well done development, I am not into very much
Even the IC title match doesn't do much for me because its on Smackdown and the midcard of Smackdown doesn't do much for me unless, like, we get IC Champ Heath Slater
"Avoid their finisher" is like wrestling logic 101
And I don't have faith in them to create a compelling story around it, either
Not even Heyman can spin his magic around "my client was beaten like a punk motherfucker"
"And then it happened again"
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