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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    You should have declined it then, sport.

    alternative response: RIP

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

    Epstein was also the other guy in the weird lawsuit that kept appearing and disappearing alleging Trump raped a 13 year old.

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Oghulk wrote: »
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

    Epstein was also the other guy in the weird lawsuit that kept appearing and disappearing alleging Trump raped a 13 year old.

    Isn't Epstein the billionaire that, if rumors are true, had an apartment in Manhattan that he basically ran an underage sex trafficking operation out of for his billionaire and millionaire friends like Trump?

    Veevee on
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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

    Epstein was also the other guy in the weird lawsuit that kept appearing and disappearing alleging Trump raped a 13 year old.

    Isn't Epstein the billionaire that, if rumors are true, had an apartment in Manhattan that he basically ran an underage sex trafficking operation out of for his billionaire and millionaire friends like Trump?

    I'm pretty sure he's also the guy that Trump was buddy buddy with and had said is a really good dude right before Epstein was arrested/indicted for the underage prostitution thing.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Rex Tillerson used a private email account to conduct ExxonMobil business and is under investigation.

    But those emails are lost apparently!

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    But her emails!

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Is the swamp drained, yet?

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    PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Is the swamp drained, yet?

    Yes, we have successfully drained some of the swamp in NYC into DC.

    Oh wait.

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Rex Tillerson used a private email account to conduct ExxonMobil business and is under investigation.

    But those emails are lost apparently!


    I just got done laughing like crazy person so I didn't punch the computer monitor.

    Oh, and did I mention I'm at work, which is a hotel front desk? So yeah, thanks for that.

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    Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Rex Tillerson used a private email account to conduct ExxonMobil business and is under investigation.

    But those emails are lost apparently!


    God fucking dammit.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Is the swamp drained, yet?

    They have successfully drained many swamps into DC.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

    Epstein was also the other guy in the weird lawsuit that kept appearing and disappearing alleging Trump raped a 13 year old.

    Isn't Epstein the billionaire that, if rumors are true, had an apartment in Manhattan that he basically ran an underage sex trafficking operation out of for his billionaire and millionaire friends like Trump?

    I'm pretty sure he's also the guy that Trump was buddy buddy with and had said is a really good dude right before Epstein was arrested/indicted for the underage prostitution thing.

    /looks at Pizzagate

    Again with the projection.

    It's basically prophecy at this point.

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    Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    I found a comment on the interwebs that says that there are communists or cultural Marxist or whatever on Russia's payroll in Washington.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    I found a comment on the interwebs that says that there are communists or cultural Marxist or whatever on Russia's payroll in Washington.

    I. Wish.

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    SeñorAmorSeñorAmor !!! Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Rex Tillerson used a private email account to conduct ExxonMobil business and is under investigation.

    But those emails are lost apparently!


    I am shocked.

    Shocked, I tell you!

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    To quote our Secretary of Energy.

    "Oops."

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    Martini_PhilosopherMartini_Philosopher Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

    Epstein was also the other guy in the weird lawsuit that kept appearing and disappearing alleging Trump raped a 13 year old.

    Isn't Epstein the billionaire that, if rumors are true, had an apartment in Manhattan that he basically ran an underage sex trafficking operation out of for his billionaire and millionaire friends like Trump?

    I'm pretty sure he's also the guy that Trump was buddy buddy with and had said is a really good dude right before Epstein was arrested/indicted for the underage prostitution thing.

    More than that. Trump's relationship with Epstein was from where the woman's lawsuit that went away just before the election was centered around.

    If you care to remember, she withdrew the lawsuit because of multiple accounts of online bullying and intimidation.

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Oh no

    From a WaPo reporter



    War with Iran coming up?

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    We already know that Donald is a sexual predator because Donald says that he is. It's a point of pride.

    PLA on
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    SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    So a bit of levity in these dark times: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mattis-defense-hill-republicans-obama-236329
    But Republican lawmakers and senior congressional aides said in recent interviews they’re running out of patience with Mattis' staffing decisions, which have disappointed Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee hoping to see their ideological allies elevated to senior levels in the Defense Department. Others are grumbling about Mattis’ refusal to advocate a bigger increase in the defense budget, which defense hawks believe was gutted disastrously under President Barack Obama.

    “He certainly has got a tough job, but it sometimes feels like he forgets that we won the election,” said one aide to a GOP senator on the Armed Services Committee, who declined to speak on the record for fear of publicly alienating the defense secretary.

    “We’ve waited eight years for this, to be able to fill these posts with Republicans,” said another top GOP Hill staffer. “We know Trump isn’t part of the establishment and that it’s going to be a bit different, but it should go without saying that a Republican administration is expected to staff federal agencies with Republicans.”

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    Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    WaPo has a story now about how Secretary of Labor nominee Acosta made a deal and lightly prosecuted a billionaire who solicited and had sex with underage girls.

    Also Kenneth Starr was one of the guys defending Epstein so that's not surprising.

    Epstein was also the other guy in the weird lawsuit that kept appearing and disappearing alleging Trump raped a 13 year old.

    Isn't Epstein the billionaire that, if rumors are true, had an apartment in Manhattan that he basically ran an underage sex trafficking operation out of for his billionaire and millionaire friends like Trump?

    I'm pretty sure he's also the guy that Trump was buddy buddy with and had said is a really good dude right before Epstein was arrested/indicted for the underage prostitution thing.

    More than that. Trump's relationship with Epstein was from where the woman's lawsuit that went away just before the election was centered around.

    If you care to remember, she withdrew the lawsuit because of multiple accounts of online bullying and intimidation.

    Link

    I'm pretty sure Trump sent his daughter to Epstein for modelling training too.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    So a bit of levity in these dark times: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mattis-defense-hill-republicans-obama-236329
    But Republican lawmakers and senior congressional aides said in recent interviews they’re running out of patience with Mattis' staffing decisions, which have disappointed Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee hoping to see their ideological allies elevated to senior levels in the Defense Department. Others are grumbling about Mattis’ refusal to advocate a bigger increase in the defense budget, which defense hawks believe was gutted disastrously under President Barack Obama.

    “He certainly has got a tough job, but it sometimes feels like he forgets that we won the election,” said one aide to a GOP senator on the Armed Services Committee, who declined to speak on the record for fear of publicly alienating the defense secretary.

    “We’ve waited eight years for this, to be able to fill these posts with Republicans,” said another top GOP Hill staffer. “We know Trump isn’t part of the establishment and that it’s going to be a bit different, but it should go without saying that a Republican administration is expected to staff federal agencies with Republicans.”

    My respect for Mattis continues to soar.

    Amazing how many members of the officer corps are surprisingly competent as leaders.

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    LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Yeah Mattis is kinda stuck when it comes to staffing.

    Much of the mainstream GOP foreign policy and defense establishment were vocally anti-Trump during the election, and Trump remembers, keeps lists, and has demonstrated before that such people are not welcome in his administration.

    So Mattis is left with former Democratic staffers on one end, and crazy-fringe GOP hacks on the other. He's being criticized for considering the former, and probably wants nothing to do with the latter.

    Ladai on
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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Spoit wrote: »
    So a bit of levity in these dark times: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mattis-defense-hill-republicans-obama-236329
    But Republican lawmakers and senior congressional aides said in recent interviews they’re running out of patience with Mattis' staffing decisions, which have disappointed Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee hoping to see their ideological allies elevated to senior levels in the Defense Department. Others are grumbling about Mattis’ refusal to advocate a bigger increase in the defense budget, which defense hawks believe was gutted disastrously under President Barack Obama.

    “He certainly has got a tough job, but it sometimes feels like he forgets that we won the election,” said one aide to a GOP senator on the Armed Services Committee, who declined to speak on the record for fear of publicly alienating the defense secretary.

    “We’ve waited eight years for this, to be able to fill these posts with Republicans,” said another top GOP Hill staffer. “We know Trump isn’t part of the establishment and that it’s going to be a bit different, but it should go without saying that a Republican administration is expected to staff federal agencies with Republicans.”

    My respect for Mattis continues to soar.

    Amazing how many members of the officer corps are surprisingly competent as leaders.

    Actual DoD people have a very different mentality than Republicans when it comes to funding. They don't give a shit about defense contractors and they hate all the non-defense related shit that gets dumped on DoD because they have all the money. DoD and Joint Chiefs members have been denying the need for additional funding for years now.

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    KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Who the hell thinks defense spending was gutted under Obama?

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    AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Who the hell thinks defense spending was gutted under Obama?

    Not Osama.
    Spoit wrote: »
    So a bit of levity in these dark times: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mattis-defense-hill-republicans-obama-236329
    But Republican lawmakers and senior congressional aides said in recent interviews they’re running out of patience with Mattis' staffing decisions, which have disappointed Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee hoping to see their ideological allies elevated to senior levels in the Defense Department. Others are grumbling about Mattis’ refusal to advocate a bigger increase in the defense budget, which defense hawks believe was gutted disastrously under President Barack Obama.

    “He certainly has got a tough job, but it sometimes feels like he forgets that we won the election,” said one aide to a GOP senator on the Armed Services Committee, who declined to speak on the record for fear of publicly alienating the defense secretary.

    “We’ve waited eight years for this, to be able to fill these posts with Republicans,” said another top GOP Hill staffer. “We know Trump isn’t part of the establishment and that it’s going to be a bit different, but it should go without saying that a Republican administration is expected to staff federal agencies with Republicans.”

    Fucking scum, your priority should be to staff positions with the best possible person not your allies and not people who are just registered R.

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    DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Who the hell thinks defense spending was gutted under Obama?

    Remember, it's about perception, not reality.

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Idiots Republicans Many Republicans.

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    VishNubVishNub Registered User regular
    I get constant emails about how unprepared our military is from my in-laws.

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    AlphaRomeroAlphaRomero Registered User regular
    I think people view Red Dawn as a historical documentary.

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    Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Ladai wrote: »
    Yeah Mattis is kinda stuck when it comes to staffing.

    Much of the mainstream GOP foreign policy and defense establishment were vocally anti-Trump during the election, and Trump remembers, keeps lists, and has demonstrated before that such people are not welcome in his administration.

    So Mattis is left with former Democratic staffers on one end, and crazy-fringe GOP hacks on the other. He's being criticized for considering the former, and probably wants nothing to do with the latter.

    Exactly, all the remotely competent people in the Republican party have been forced out and are persona non grata, so the Republicans have a competency problem.

    The republican party is like a 90 year old billionaire that married a supermodel on his wedding night: exactly where they always thought they wanted to be, and totally incapable of realistically using that position to actually accomplish anything.

    Jealous Deva on
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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Who the hell thinks defense spending was gutted under Obama?

    Not Osama.
    Spoit wrote: »
    So a bit of levity in these dark times: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/mattis-defense-hill-republicans-obama-236329
    But Republican lawmakers and senior congressional aides said in recent interviews they’re running out of patience with Mattis' staffing decisions, which have disappointed Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee hoping to see their ideological allies elevated to senior levels in the Defense Department. Others are grumbling about Mattis’ refusal to advocate a bigger increase in the defense budget, which defense hawks believe was gutted disastrously under President Barack Obama.

    “He certainly has got a tough job, but it sometimes feels like he forgets that we won the election,” said one aide to a GOP senator on the Armed Services Committee, who declined to speak on the record for fear of publicly alienating the defense secretary.

    “We’ve waited eight years for this, to be able to fill these posts with Republicans,” said another top GOP Hill staffer. “We know Trump isn’t part of the establishment and that it’s going to be a bit different, but it should go without saying that a Republican administration is expected to staff federal agencies with Republicans.”

    Fucking scum, your priority should be to staff positions with the best possible person not your allies and not people who are just registered R.

    I know this isn't what you mean but if I'm a Democratic President incoming in 2021 I'm purging as many fucking Republicans from the executive branch as possible. Comey is living proof that throwing the other side a bone with an appointment as an act of good faith can come back to bite you and it bit the Democrats in the worst possible way.

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    AstaerethAstaereth In the belly of the beastRegistered User regular
    VishNub wrote: »
    I get constant emails about how unprepared our military is from my in-laws.

    To be fair, there are scenarios we're not prepared for.

    Like say for example that we had to fight an Iraq-sized war because, let's just say we had an excellent reason for once, okay? And then all of a sudden for another very excellent reason we had to simultaneously start fighting a second Iraq-sized war in some other country. We'd be fucked, right? Actually no, we can do that.

    But then what if while fighting those--successfully using current military strength, not even needing to wait for more funding--we then had to get into a third simultaneous Iraq-sized war? Then we'd be screwed, at least until we could ramp up production and recruitment or recommission all that shit the police are holding onto for us right now.

    And since it's very likely we'll have excellent reasons to get into three different wars in three different countries at the exact same time, I think we can all agree (well, all of us but the military) that the defense budget needs a raise, even if that means our children can't have art, food, or schools.

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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    I get constant emails about how unprepared our military is from my in-laws.

    To be fair, there are scenarios we're not prepared for.

    Like say for example that we had to fight an Iraq-sized war because, let's just say we had an excellent reason for once, okay? And then all of a sudden for another very excellent reason we had to simultaneously start fighting a second Iraq-sized war in some other country. We'd be fucked, right? Actually no, we can do that.

    But then what if while fighting those--successfully using current military strength, not even needing to wait for more funding--we then had to get into a third simultaneous Iraq-sized war? Then we'd be screwed, at least until we could ramp up production and recruitment or recommission all that shit the police are holding onto for us right now.

    And since it's very likely we'll have excellent reasons to get into three different wars in three different countries at the exact same time, I think we can all agree (well, all of us but the military) that the defense budget needs a raise, even if that means our children can't have art, food, or schools.

    Even in that case wouldn't recruitment / manpower be the bottleneck and not hardware?

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    LabelLabel Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    I agree, but I will say I think the jury is still out on Comey overall. He may yet deliver the head of the beast.


    Not that I think he will be totally redeemed if he does, though.

    Label on
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    ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    I get constant emails about how unprepared our military is from my in-laws.

    To be fair, there are scenarios we're not prepared for.

    Like say for example that we had to fight an Iraq-sized war because, let's just say we had an excellent reason for once, okay? And then all of a sudden for another very excellent reason we had to simultaneously start fighting a second Iraq-sized war in some other country. We'd be fucked, right? Actually no, we can do that.

    But then what if while fighting those--successfully using current military strength, not even needing to wait for more funding--we then had to get into a third simultaneous Iraq-sized war? Then we'd be screwed, at least until we could ramp up production and recruitment or recommission all that shit the police are holding onto for us right now.

    And since it's very likely we'll have excellent reasons to get into three different wars in three different countries at the exact same time, I think we can all agree (well, all of us but the military) that the defense budget needs a raise, even if that means our children can't have art, food, or schools.

    Even in that case wouldn't recruitment / manpower be the bottleneck and not hardware?

    Without art, food, or schools, there'll be a surge in military recruitment due to the military being able to supply at least two of those three things.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Erlkönig wrote: »
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    I get constant emails about how unprepared our military is from my in-laws.

    To be fair, there are scenarios we're not prepared for.

    Like say for example that we had to fight an Iraq-sized war because, let's just say we had an excellent reason for once, okay? And then all of a sudden for another very excellent reason we had to simultaneously start fighting a second Iraq-sized war in some other country. We'd be fucked, right? Actually no, we can do that.

    But then what if while fighting those--successfully using current military strength, not even needing to wait for more funding--we then had to get into a third simultaneous Iraq-sized war? Then we'd be screwed, at least until we could ramp up production and recruitment or recommission all that shit the police are holding onto for us right now.

    And since it's very likely we'll have excellent reasons to get into three different wars in three different countries at the exact same time, I think we can all agree (well, all of us but the military) that the defense budget needs a raise, even if that means our children can't have art, food, or schools.

    Even in that case wouldn't recruitment / manpower be the bottleneck and not hardware?

    Without art, food, or schools, there'll be a surge in military recruitment due to the military being able to supply at least two of those three things.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Texas A&M just had the first openly gay student elected to student body president. Rick Perry has three things to say about it.
    After Texas A&M University elected its first openly gay student president, Secretary of Energy Rick Perry took a break from national politics on Wednesday to question if his alma mater's election process was rigged in the name of diversity.

    In an editorial published Wednesday in the Houston Chronicle, the former Texas governor called the election victory of 21-year-old junior Bobby Brooks a "mockery of due process and transparency" and suggested the university's decision was based on a "quest for diversity."

    "At worst, the [student government association] allowed an election to be stolen outright," Perry wrote.

    Perry's 850-word letter comes two days after the traditionally conservative school elected Brooks as its first openly gay student body president. Brooks lost the popular vote but won the election after his opponent, Robert McIntosh, was disqualified by the student government and the university's judicial court based on reports that his campaign didn't provide receipts for glow sticks used in a Facebook campaign video.

    He also alleged that a series of the voter intimidation complaints made against McIntosh were submitted by Brooks' supporters in "a series of dirty campaign tactics."

    "Brooks' presidency is being treated as a victory for 'diversity.' It is difficult to escape the perception that this quest for 'diversity' is the real reason the election outcome was overturned," Perry wrote. "Does the principle of 'diversity' override and supersede all other values of our Aggie Honor Code?"

    In a statement to NBC News, Texas A&M pushed back against Perry's op-ed and said McIntosh's disqualification represents the school's commitment to accountability.

    "To suggest that the same decision of disqualification would not have been made if the roles were reversed is to deny the Texas A&M of today where accountability applies to all," said Texas A&M spokesperson Amy Smith.
    I don't think those glasses are working, mang.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    VishNub wrote: »
    I get constant emails about how unprepared our military is from my in-laws.

    To be fair, there are scenarios we're not prepared for.

    Like say for example that we had to fight an Iraq-sized war because, let's just say we had an excellent reason for once, okay? And then all of a sudden for another very excellent reason we had to simultaneously start fighting a second Iraq-sized war in some other country. We'd be fucked, right? Actually no, we can do that.

    But then what if while fighting those--successfully using current military strength, not even needing to wait for more funding--we then had to get into a third simultaneous Iraq-sized war? Then we'd be screwed, at least until we could ramp up production and recruitment or recommission all that shit the police are holding onto for us right now.

    And since it's very likely we'll have excellent reasons to get into three different wars in three different countries at the exact same time, I think we can all agree (well, all of us but the military) that the defense budget needs a raise, even if that means our children can't have art, food, or schools.

    Even in that case wouldn't recruitment / manpower be the bottleneck and not hardware?

    There are hardware problems in the military. Many of our aircraft were designed during the Vietnam era and they're outdated and getting more and more expensive to maintain, there's not enough of some ground vehicles and equipment, we've had problems with not being able to send enough uparmored versions of vehicles we do have, People work out of condemned buildings because the replacements have been set aside for sometimes 10 years or more, ect ect.

    The problem is that getting funding for these things is bottlenecked in the Pentagon where inefficiency costs somewhere in the area of several billion dollars a year, and they like to go for pet projects that help them get good civilian jobs afterwards, and joint designs that make the equipment inefficient and less effective.

    Of course, warmongers like to embroil us further into wars and built quantity over quality instead of getting us the equipment we need, so we end up making due. Wars cost money, and that that posturing comes at the expense of actual improvement in the military.

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