"Look man, this administration is for the people, the average joe, the little guy. We don't need this big ass agency keeping a list of people. You know who did that? I don't either, but it couldn't have been good."
Don't ex-presidents have access to security briefings, if they want them?
Also if Trump were to be impeached for the Russian shit his access/clearance might be revoked as a result.
I've never heard of presidents having access to classified information after leaving office without a need to know.
Like I'm sure when Bill Clinton went to North Korea to negotiate for hostages he would have been given secret or top secret information. But he can't just call up the White House and ask for his copy of the presidential briefing just cause.
Clearances also have a set expiration date. Usually five years for top secret.
He has a clearance by default of being president and there's no revoking it while he's in office as far as I know. The moment he's out of office for any reason though it could be suspended for undue relations with foreign governments.
Don't ex-presidents have access to security briefings, if they want them?
Also if Trump were to be impeached for the Russian shit his access/clearance might be revoked as a result.
I've never heard of presidents having access to classified information after leaving office without a need to know.
Like I'm sure when Bill Clinton went to North Korea to negotiate for hostages he would have been given secret or top secret information. But he can't just call up the White House and ask for his copy of the presidential briefing just cause.
Clearances also have a set expiration date. Usually five years for top secret.
He has a clearance by default of being president and there's no revoking it while he's in office as far as I know. The moment he's out of office for any reason though it could be suspended for undue relations with foreign governments.
In theory, POTUS is cleared for everything, but need to know still applies. The difference is that POTUS decides whether he needs to know (the same is true of Congress iirc? Sitting members of both houses are cleared by virtue of their office for anything... but in their case I think it would need to be a relevant committee declaring need to know to get access?)
Don't ex-presidents have access to security briefings, if they want them?
Also if Trump were to be impeached for the Russian shit his access/clearance might be revoked as a result.
I've never heard of presidents having access to classified information after leaving office without a need to know.
Like I'm sure when Bill Clinton went to North Korea to negotiate for hostages he would have been given secret or top secret information. But he can't just call up the White House and ask for his copy of the presidential briefing just cause.
Clearances also have a set expiration date. Usually five years for top secret.
He has a clearance by default of being president and there's no revoking it while he's in office as far as I know. The moment he's out of office for any reason though it could be suspended for undue relations with foreign governments.
In theory, POTUS is cleared for everything, but need to know still applies. The difference is that POTUS decides whether he needs to know (the same is true of Congress iirc? Sitting members of both houses are cleared by virtue of their office for anything... but in their case I think it would need to be a relevant committee declaring need to know to get access?)
Correct. Congress and senate members, like the president, have a clearance by default of their office. But they have to demonstrate a need to know. The intelligence committee obviously has pretty broad access. Members on the foreign relations and banking committees would instead have different, limited accesses with a bit of overlap.
Don't ex-presidents have access to security briefings, if they want them?
Also if Trump were to be impeached for the Russian shit his access/clearance might be revoked as a result.
I've never heard of presidents having access to classified information after leaving office without a need to know.
Like I'm sure when Bill Clinton went to North Korea to negotiate for hostages he would have been given secret or top secret information. But he can't just call up the White House and ask for his copy of the presidential briefing just cause.
Clearances also have a set expiration date. Usually five years for top secret.
He has a clearance by default of being president and there's no revoking it while he's in office as far as I know. The moment he's out of office for any reason though it could be suspended for undue relations with foreign governments.
In theory, POTUS is cleared for everything, but need to know still applies. The difference is that POTUS decides whether he needs to know (the same is true of Congress iirc? Sitting members of both houses are cleared by virtue of their office for anything... but in their case I think it would need to be a relevant committee declaring need to know to get access?)
Correct. Congress and senate members, like the president, have a clearance by default of their office. But they have to demonstrate a need to know. The intelligence committee obviously has pretty broad access. Members on the foreign relations and banking committees would instead have different, limited accesses with a bit of overlap.
I think the intelligence committees basically can get at anything they think necessary? I wonder how the subpoena power interacts with classification actually.
So I'm guessing that was one of the things that was considered low priority for the librarians trying to back stuff up?
There's a website called "The Memory Hole 2" that is hosting what they have of the USDA records. Any further records require you to file a Freedom of Information Act request.
So I'm guessing that was one of the things that was considered low priority for the librarians trying to back stuff up?
There's a website called "The Memory Hole 2" that is hosting what they have of the USDA records. Any further records require you to file a Freedom of Information Act request.
I still have a link to the original Memory Hole. It's been long gone, though. I am not ultimately surprised that somebody brought it back for our new leader and his orange muppet.
Coverage of it can go in this thread until such a time as which he withdraws himself from consideration as secretary because of allegations of corruptahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA who am I kidding
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That story's update is "Pudzer's people have assured us that it's only $900,000 and he just lied on the financial disclosure forms." Jesus, this cabinet.
Anyway I'm sure not a damn thing is going to happen. "Conflict of interest?" says the administration with its head cocked sideways in puzzlement. "This serves our interests perfectly."
That story's update is "Pudzer's people have assured us that it's only $900,000 and he just lied on the financial disclosure forms." Jesus, this cabinet.
Anyway I'm sure not a damn thing is going to happen. "Conflict of interest?" says the administration with its head cocked sideways in puzzlement. "This serves out interests perfectly."
Conflict of interest is when you can't decide which bribe to take.
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This jarring discord of nobility,
This shouldering of each other in the court,
This factious bandying of their favorites,
But that he doth presage some ill event.
Tis much when scepters are in children's hands;
But more when envy breeds unkind division;
There comes the ruin, there begins confusion.
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For all of Trump’s frustrations about staff drama however, it isn’t clear they’re going away any time soon. Tensions remain between the staffs of chief of staff Reince Priebus and Bannon. Priebus’s advisers blamed Bannon’s team for the botched rollout of the travel ban executive order, saying that they hadn’t done the needed legwork ahead of time.
I feel like the Cabinet/Administration Staff are one and the same. Nobody has a real job description, everyone is flailing around blaming each other for their fuckups, and Trump and the inner circle thinks everyone is out to get them. The Cabinet can hardly be considered an outer orbit of this sphere of entropy; they're already getting 3 AM phone calls and sitting in diplomatic meetings with Kushner. There doesn't appear to be a meaningful internal appreciation of formal vs informal advisory roles.
Anyway this article is the kind of DC gossip mag trash I drink up like sweet nectar (thanks again, politico!). And this:
Kushner, who is among Trump’s most trusted advisers, has been incensed by reports that New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who has ripped the White House over its implementation of Trump’s executive order restricting travel from seven predominantly Muslim countries, is telling people that he expects to enter the White House as part of a “second wave” of staffers that will replace initial hires. Kushner has long had tensions with Christie and played a key role in blocking him from getting a senior job in the administration.
Cackling.
Hahaha, sure you will Chris, sure you will. One day master will throw Dobby a sock!
This afternoon I watched Lego Batman and it was delightful and then afterward I saw Mnuchin listed as a producer.
And I was all, "Wow, there are two Steve Mnuchins, what are the odds!"
But nope, same Mnuchin.
Stay out of my fucking movies, Steve.
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Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.
Now she's the Secretary of Education!
Anything is possible, children.
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Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.
Now she's the Secretary of Education!
Anything is possible, children.
tbf I've never been more convinced that anyone could become president
Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.
Heh. Even pro-Trump posters openly say that DeVos is a grifter that knows nothing about education and that the only reason why anybody gives a shit about charter schools is for being able to buy white flight. Of course, the next step after charter schools turned out to be awful is to homeschool. Quite honestly, the latter can't be helped since parents with money or willing to reduce their budget will always find a way to get their kids to the "good schools" but not a single cent of taxpayer money should be given for it, since most of it goes to scammers like DeVos so they can suck the blood out of the public school system. You see, if there's no "bad schools", just a bunch of mediocre ones, there's no problem.
Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.
Now she's the Secretary of Education!
Anything is possible, children.
tbf I've never been more convinced that anyone could become president
this is more inspiring than if Clinton had won
remember kids, even if you're a mentally-ill narcissist with no qualifications and the temperament of a colicky infant, you too can become president
Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.
Now she's the Secretary of Education!
Anything is possible, children.
tbf I've never been more convinced that any man could become president
Betsy DeVos seems like exactly the type that always wondered "If their schools are so bad why don't they just go to better ones?" without putting any effort into figuring out the answer.
Now she's the Secretary of Education!
Anything is possible, children.
Well, maybe not for you children. Not once DeVos is done "overhauling" the school system.
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My prediction is that DeVos pushes a national voucher program and also does nothing to address the growing problem of public universities doing fuck all about their predator culture/sexual assault epidemic.
My prediction is that DeVos pushes a national voucher program and also does nothing to address the growing problem of public universities doing fuck all about their predator culture/sexual assault epidemic.
I mean, that's a pretty safe bet.
To make it interesting, I'd say she's down for a complete Title IX rewrite or repeal without replacement. All that pesky equality getting in the way of everything. Why, if schools didn't have to make sure that women or people with disabilities were in the classroom or in after school programs or sports then schools would have all kinds of money to pay for things. Imagine if we could just cut out that bottom 25% of students right out of the school then everyone would be doing so much better.
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Looks like there may be some nomination problems incoming
Well, we've had multiple times where repub senators have said they won't support the nominees, and then they support them anyways. So until and unless they actually act on it, they can shove their playacting at being anything other than a party stooge up their ass.
Edit: Collins and Murkowski actually seem to act on their assertions, the rest fall almost entirely along party lines regardless of what they say they're going to do, or how much they say they don't think candidates are qualified for the job.
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Breaking: 4 Democrats decide they suddenly have some room open to the right and get scootin'
My prediction is that DeVos pushes a national voucher program and also does nothing to address the growing problem of public universities doing fuck all about their predator culture/sexual assault epidemic.
Also anti-evolution, more religion, and we're already seeing that they're not super interested in enforcing IDEA.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Get ready to have the vast majority of schools become basically vocational schools from 6th grade up. We can't have business spending money on training people, that's the schools job now.
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I've never heard of presidents having access to classified information after leaving office without a need to know.
Like I'm sure when Bill Clinton went to North Korea to negotiate for hostages he would have been given secret or top secret information. But he can't just call up the White House and ask for his copy of the presidential briefing just cause.
Clearances also have a set expiration date. Usually five years for top secret.
He has a clearance by default of being president and there's no revoking it while he's in office as far as I know. The moment he's out of office for any reason though it could be suspended for undue relations with foreign governments.
In theory, POTUS is cleared for everything, but need to know still applies. The difference is that POTUS decides whether he needs to know (the same is true of Congress iirc? Sitting members of both houses are cleared by virtue of their office for anything... but in their case I think it would need to be a relevant committee declaring need to know to get access?)
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Correct. Congress and senate members, like the president, have a clearance by default of their office. But they have to demonstrate a need to know. The intelligence committee obviously has pretty broad access. Members on the foreign relations and banking committees would instead have different, limited accesses with a bit of overlap.
I think the intelligence committees basically can get at anything they think necessary? I wonder how the subpoena power interacts with classification actually.
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There's a website called "The Memory Hole 2" that is hosting what they have of the USDA records. Any further records require you to file a Freedom of Information Act request.
I still have a link to the original Memory Hole. It's been long gone, though. I am not ultimately surprised that somebody brought it back for our new leader and his orange muppet.
Which is probably the default choice...
Coverage of it can go in this thread until such a time as which he withdraws himself from consideration as secretary because of allegations of corruptahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA who am I kidding
Anyway I'm sure not a damn thing is going to happen. "Conflict of interest?" says the administration with its head cocked sideways in puzzlement. "This serves our interests perfectly."
Conflict of interest is when you can't decide which bribe to take.
oh boy
Hahaha, sure you will Chris, sure you will. One day master will throw Dobby a sock!
And I was all, "Wow, there are two Steve Mnuchins, what are the odds!"
But nope, same Mnuchin.
Stay out of my fucking movies, Steve.
I've got bad news about say, Fury Road.
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Now she's the Secretary of Education!
Anything is possible, children.
tbf I've never been more convinced that anyone could become president
The entire administration is like a fat gross tick that just wants to suck either money or happiness out of anything good or right in the world.
this is more inspiring than if Clinton had won
remember kids, even if you're a mentally-ill narcissist with no qualifications and the temperament of a colicky infant, you too can become president
There we go.
Well, maybe not for you children. Not once DeVos is done "overhauling" the school system.
I mean, that's a pretty safe bet.
To make it interesting, I'd say she's down for a complete Title IX rewrite or repeal without replacement. All that pesky equality getting in the way of everything. Why, if schools didn't have to make sure that women or people with disabilities were in the classroom or in after school programs or sports then schools would have all kinds of money to pay for things. Imagine if we could just cut out that bottom 25% of students right out of the school then everyone would be doing so much better.
Looks like there may be some nomination problems incoming
Well, we've had multiple times where repub senators have said they won't support the nominees, and then they support them anyways. So until and unless they actually act on it, they can shove their playacting at being anything other than a party stooge up their ass.
Edit: Collins and Murkowski actually seem to act on their assertions, the rest fall almost entirely along party lines regardless of what they say they're going to do, or how much they say they don't think candidates are qualified for the job.
Also anti-evolution, more religion, and we're already seeing that they're not super interested in enforcing IDEA.