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Spore Thread: A Massive Singleplayer Online Banning Experience

TenTen Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Social Entropy++
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It's nearly here! And to make up for PAX being all the way across the world, Australia gets it 3 days before the US! (nearly 4 since we're like 18 hours ahead of you guys)

Not to be a bastard about it but we're used to getting screwed over here so it's nice to have something for a change.

ANYWAY

It is going to be pretty damn cool! Five different gameplay styles, including a sandbox space mode which will keep us going for a long time, kick ass procedural animations, and passively multiplayer creature sharing, which means over that hill is probably a frickin' stampede of dick monsters.

You all know the creature creator was released months ago, and SE++ came up with some pretty damn awesome creatures, so as soon as the game comes out I will be creating a Sporecast for SE++. What's a Sporecast? It's like an RSS feed for Spore creatures, and like an RSS feed you can subscribe to it and have your worlds seeded by whatever is shared!

So among others, you can look forward to running into these guys:
Spoiler:

And the awesome thing is that you can drag those pictures in that spoiler into the game or the Creature Creator, and you've got the creature! The beauty of procedural creature generation at work, folks.

TALK ABOUT SPORE!


Update: I've created the SE++ Sporecast, it's called Social Entropy Plus Plus, if you search in game or on Sporepedia you can see all our creations! Click here to see it in the Sporepedia

If you'd like to be part of the SE++ sporecast, post your Spore username in this thread and I'll add you as a buddy and will endeavour to add all your creations to the Sporecast (at this point I don't think I can do that automatically)

Everybody's latest items don't seem to be showing up in the search yet, so I'm going to list everybody who I've added to the Sporecast; if you add them as a buddy, you should get their latest stuff as well.

SE++ Sporecasters:
Spoiler:

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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Its mostly because you suck at life Sicarii.

    Battletag BYToady#1454
  • TenTen Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Sicarii wrote: »
    Sorta confused, I would say I'm a creative type; I like modeling and texturing. Yet this game has at no point held any interest for me.

    Maybe because it allows joe schmoes like me to make cool looking creatures and space ships without having to buy 700 dollar software suites and spend month learning how to make a fucking beachball.


    Damn elitist.

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    Can't do much about the time it takes to learn that stuff though

    But you're right, Spore is a good in between tool for creating cool stuff

  • JarofmoldymayoJarofmoldymayo __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    Umnmm...


    Will Wright has a long neck.

  • yourclothesyourclothes __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    waddya think he keeps in that neck

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  • JarofmoldymayoJarofmoldymayo __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    waddya think he keeps in that neck
    Nazi gold?

  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh gosh my Mega-cow is in the OP

    I am so proud

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  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh fuck yes I am so pumped for this game.

    And holy shit we get it 3 days before the US? ahahah.

    So when is the official release date anyway?

  • ascotascot Registered User
    edited September 2008
    this game looks boring

  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    ascot wrote: »
    this game looks boring

    Your mum looks boring.

    But I actually enjoyed pounding her.

    So maybe you should give Spore a try.

  • ascotascot Registered User
    edited September 2008
    I was just keeiding sheesh
    will wright 4 king

  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Haha chill dude, as was I.

    You know I love you(r shoes)

  • JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Love this title, it's great.

    Also I won't be getting Spore until my birthday in October.

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  • The Otaku SuppositoryThe Otaku Suppository PAHK YAH CAH IN DAH YAHD SouthieRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Will Wright is the new Tyler Perry

    Your fuckin' family's dug into the Southie projects like ticks. You, however, grew up on the North Shore, huh? Well, la-di-fuckin'-da. You were kind of a double kid, I bet, right? Huh? One kid with your old man, one kid with your mother. You're upper-middle class during the weeks, then you're droppin' your "R"s and you're hangin' in the big, bad Southie projects with your daddy on the weekends. I got that right?
  • TenTen Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh fuck yes I am so pumped for this game.

    And holy shit we get it 3 days before the US? ahahah.

    So when is the official release date anyway?

    Sep 4 in AU, Sep 5 in Europe, Sep 7 in US

  • lunarwulflunarwulf Registered User
    edited September 2008
    Sicarii wrote: »
    Sorta confused, I would say I'm a creative type; I like modeling and texturing. Yet this game has at no point held any interest for me.

    Maybe because it allows joe schmoes like me to make cool looking creatures and space ships without having to buy 700 dollar software suites and spend month learning how to make a fucking beachball.


    Damn elitist.

    LOL, Jarofmoldymayo.

    I've been excited about this game for a long time. Really hate the idea of a game as unique as this getting released to anyone ahead of the U.S. Anytime a game like this comes along, why can't we just get one single release date?

    It's been made abundantly clear that Ten O'Clock is time for Rainbow Six. It is not time for other games! You might think that it is, but it isn't. Don't show up at 10:05! That's not when it is. It is earlier.
  • Cold Salmon and HatredCold Salmon and Hatred __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    I guess I will buy this

    I've never been super interested in it but it does look cool

  • IdolisideIdoliside Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    4 days.....

    From 4 years to 4 days...holy shit...

    Proud member of Noah's Wangship Steam Group
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  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    YaYa wrote: »
    or american mcgee?

    holy shit whatever happened to him

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    'we got hella people, they got helicopters'
  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    He decided to make shitty games

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  • VeretasVeretas Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I won't be able to play this game until near the end of the month

  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ten wrote: »
    Oh fuck yes I am so pumped for this game.

    And holy shit we get it 3 days before the US? ahahah.

    So when is the official release date anyway?

    Sep 4 in AU, Sep 5 in Europe, Sep 7 in US

    Oh dayum, that's 2 days from now.

    I know what I'm going to be doing come Thursday!

  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    lunarwulf wrote: »
    Sicarii wrote: »
    Sorta confused, I would say I'm a creative type; I like modeling and texturing. Yet this game has at no point held any interest for me.

    Maybe because it allows joe schmoes like me to make cool looking creatures and space ships without having to buy 700 dollar software suites and spend month learning how to make a fucking beachball.


    Damn elitist.

    LOL, Jarofmoldymayo.

    I've been excited about this game for a long time. Really hate the idea of a game as unique as this getting released to anyone ahead of the U.S. Anytime a game like this comes along, why can't we just get one single release date?

    Clearly Will Wright hates America. Duh.

  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS
    edited September 2008
    Hey! Some of those in the OP are mine! :D

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  • TenTen Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ten wrote: »
    Oh fuck yes I am so pumped for this game.

    And holy shit we get it 3 days before the US? ahahah.

    So when is the official release date anyway?

    Sep 4 in AU, Sep 5 in Europe, Sep 7 in US

    Oh dayum, that's 2 days from now.

    I know what I'm going to be doing come Thursday!

    I took an RDO on Thursday just so I could go get Spore in the morning and play all day :)
    Blankspace wrote:
    Hey! Some of those in the OP are mine! :D

    Yep, they are all SE++ creatures, I went through the first 20 or so pages of the Creature Creator thread and grabbed the ones I liked. You made some cool stuff in that thread Blank, I'm looking forward to running into your creations in the real game :)

  • VeretasVeretas Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
  • ProjeckProjeck Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
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    this guy rules

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  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Zzulu wrote: »
    I predict this game will be awesomely fun the first few hours

    then it'll go downhill from there

    I hope I'm so wrong though

    I have a strong suspicion that you are correct. Wright's work tends to be distinctly this way, with Sim City being a really strong example.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm not going to presume to guess how other people will enjoy the game, but I still have my suspicions that this game won't hold my interest for long. Looks like a great concept, but even with all the work and variety they put into the creature creator it seems to me that most of the customization is cosmetic

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  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User
    edited September 2008
    I have the terrible problem of never being able to tell the difference between will wright and sid meiers

  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I have the terrible problem of never being able to tell the difference between will wright and sid meiers

    Yeah I get that too.

  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Druhim wrote: »
    I'm not going to presume to guess how other people will enjoy the game, but I still have my suspicions that this game won't hold my interest for long. Looks like a great concept, but even with all the work and variety they put into the creature creator it seems to me that most of the customization is cosmetic

    Yeah, and there's a way to approach this from a gameplay perspective, too. Look at these options:

    1) The physical makeup of your creature doesn't matter. The look of your creature and its combat stats or metabolic rate or resistance to extreme temperatures are not related at all.

    2) The physical makeup of your creature matters, but the layout does not. So like, more claws = more damage in combat, but it doesn't matter where you put the claws.

    3) The creature's abilities are pretty much synthesized purely from the makeup and layout of its bodily form.

    In case 1, making your creature is essentially unrelated to the actual game. Just slap on whatever parts you want because it doesn't change a goddamn thing. This option sucks because the player has zero gameplay incentive to put effort into the creature. Yeah, you get to look at it, but that's all, and you might as well just use the creator program if you want that instead of having to play the game. This method completely divorces creature creation from gameplay.

    Case 2 is just an extension of case 1. You are encouraged to stack the creature with body parts that provide it the right balance of, like, metabolism versus combat ability, or something. You know, you can make it big and beefy, but then it needs to eat more food and thus hunt bigger game, or you can make it smaller and thus it can survive off of stuff that's easier to hunt. It's an interesting case, although players will quickly stop arranging body parts...just as soon as they realize that it doesn't do anything for them. There's little more annoying than spending 15 minutes adjusting some minor detail and then realizing that it makes no difference. Shitty game designers solve this problem by hiding the stats so players don't know they're wasting time, but that's just a delay of the eventual realization that those actions do not matter. Remember those spells in FF1 that didn't actually do anything? Eventually we all noticed that they didn't seem to help and we stopped casting them and were generally annoyed that they were permanently wasting a slot in someone's spell book.

    Case 3 is the most interesting in terms of gameplay, but it means that you are going to be somewhat restricted in what you do. You're going to have to make a creature that would actually make sense. I personally think that this is far and away the best idea; the game simulates evolution, thus the player is rewarded for building something functional. However, this does mean that some of the far-out crazy shit you see coming from the creator will not be usable in the game; it'll be horribly unbalanced since it was built for form instead of function. I doubt that Wright will go full-bore on this path, because this is distinctly core-gamer territory, where the player is actively encouraged to minmax his creature's layout and stats.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I have the terrible problem of never being able to tell the difference between will wright and sid meiers

    Yeah I get that too.

    You know, even I switch their names all the damn time.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    yeah, like you can put wings on a creature's head to make them look like leaves or something decorative instead of where they actually should be to provide lift, yet they'll still be functional in spite of the nonsensical placement

    personally that takes the fun and challenge out of it

    but I haven't actually played the game so maybe they've addressed that in the final build

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  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User
    edited September 2008
    oh no! people can have fun designing creatures?! call the fun police, defender! thank god you were here!

  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah I think it has to be option 3 if the game's actually going to use creature design as a meaningful mechanic, but looking at Wright's work, I seriously doubt that this will happen.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • DefenderDefender Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    oh no! people can have fun designing creatures?! call the fun police, defender! thank god you were here!

    Read it again, you stupid faggot. Not that you're going to realize what I'm saying the second time.

    hello massa, I jar jar binks
    I've overheard someone say "Don't say something is retarded, its not cool to make fun of retards. Just say its gay."
  • Randall_FlaggRandall_Flagg Registered User
    edited September 2008
    WEEE OOOO WEEEE OOOOO

    CHEESE IT! THE FUNFUZZ!

  • JayKaosJayKaos TWIN FIST SAW CLAWSRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The creature creator seems to imply case 2, judging by the way the abilities/stats are affected by claws and wings and whatnot- one pair of tiny wings in the armpits gives the same effects as the same as a pair of wings that could actually be used.

    http://steamcommunity.com/id/jaykaos This is my steam profile.
  • Tweaked_Bat_Tweaked_Bat_ Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
  • TenTen Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I get the feeling that they've gone with your Case #2, Defender. You're right, in that from a gameplay perspective that takes a lot of challenge out of it, but a lot of people will still take the 15 minutes to adjust minor details because they take pride in creating a cool looking creature rather than a creature that is purely for 'winning' the game.

    But looking at it from purely a gameplay perspective, you're probably right and that will limit the depth of the game for those who want more than just creating creatures that look cool.

    Personally I'm kind of in between, I will have a lot of fun creating interesting looking creatures (no matter how they play), and I will have a lot of fun creating creatures that play well (no matter how they look), but I won't be the guy who's still making new creatures in 2 years long after the novelty of the gameplay has worn off.

    If it's anything like the Sims, I'll be the guy who reinstalls it every time an expansion pack comes out, plays for an hour or two and then forgets about it until the next one.

    Edit: Man, I took too long to write that, look at all those posts

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