I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
Agreed. The only time i tend to spy is for specific objectives, i.e. taking out an enemy base or sentry.
I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
Agreed. The only time i tend to spy is for specific objectives, i.e. taking out an enemy base or sentry.
I like revolver spy.
If I try to play actual spy I get frustrated and stop after a few minutes.
I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
Agreed. The only time i tend to spy is for specific objectives, i.e. taking out an enemy base or sentry.
I like revolver spy.
If I try to play actual spy I get frustrated and stop after a few minutes.
same here... the ppl that are good at in on our servers must have spent alot of time practicing...
its not so much the techniques.. but its more that they seem dumb enough to fall for it.. i personally think that we tend to be more clued up to spies.. except a few, such as you, jak and zen.. to name some main offenders.. maybe i just think too much of us lot. though personally i think were pretty awsome.
Honestly, when PA spies get me it's nearly always because I'm busy with other stuff. If I'm not firing at the enemies I'm always spychecking anything that moves. When I get backstabbed it's usually because I'm already firing at three other guys.
I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
once you really get a handle on moving like the other team, it becomes 'wait for them to line up, and then reap as though they were wheat'
I've wanted to master spy since I got Tuftoo in beta, and after I convinced myself to just stop playing medic and engi because I felt like my team needed it, I pretty much just practiced a whole lot of spy. Now I suck at everything else, almost to the point of finding it frustrating to play other classes, especially pyro. And I used to be decent at everything. So if I'm playing nothing but spy on your team, it's either because I need the self esteem boost and don't feel like sucking, or because I'm feeling particularly competitive.
Some of you guys need to test your mics. Some medic on Dustbowl last night was trying to tell me his plans for his uber and I couldn't understand shit he was saying, it sounded like he was in the middle of a wind tunnel. Kinda sad when the people spamming 4chan catchphrases and playing music have the best mic quality
Also, to that scout who yelled medic once then started whining in voice chat, f u.
I object to all the women in that guy's comic being objectified, down to weird zerg girls. But I don't want to go down that track again, that's for a different thread.
I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
Not only is it frustrating but it makes my heartrate spike. I get so nervous when I play spy that sometimes my hands will actually shake when I die. I have to make myself stop playing Spy and go back to a more mudane class like Medic or Engi.
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No kidding. Options, Voice, Test Microphone, "check... check" at the start of each session takes ten seconds.
For those talking about mastering spy - the best thing to do is set expectations. Sure, sometimes you see someone rack up four or five backstabs in quick succession, but the spy isn't always a minister of death like that. That OMFGNinja vid is actually good in this respect in that a lot of the stuff it shows is a single quick backstab, cloak, run away. It doesn't feel as good as scything the entire advancing enemy front, but even a single backstab can massively turn the tides.
Hruka doesn't like being my medic, because, well, suicidal Pyro is suicidal and he just isn't down with that. :P
I can get pretty insane tunnel vision as a pyro and I usually tend to rush straight through the enemy until I'm cut off from friendlies.
The only people I'll really beeline towards are Medics, because killing them (or making them pop an Uber early) means that Pyro Is Credit To Team. Also, they extinguish my flames.
Speaking of, my progress on Grand Rounds got reset the other day. o_O
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No kidding. Options, Voice, Test Microphone, "check... check" at the start of each session takes ten seconds.
For those talking about mastering spy - the best thing to do is set expectations. Sure, sometimes you see someone rack up four or five backstabs in quick succession, but the spy isn't always a minister of death like that. That OMFGNinja vid is actually good in this respect in that a lot of the stuff it shows is a single quick backstab, cloak, run away. It doesn't feel as good as scything the entire advancing enemy front, but even a single backstab can massively turn the tides.
Just seeing Spy (backstab) Teammate in the kill notifications is enough to make Snipers unscope, Heavies turn around, and Engys ... well, they keep the Wrench out, they just start smacking something other than their buildings. :P
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I really can't understand people who play spy full time. I'll play on PA servers for a few minutes if we need to get stuff done or pubs for fun fun stabby time but it's generally so frustrating.
Not only is it frustrating but it makes my heartrate spike. I get so nervous when I play spy that sometimes my hands will actually shake when I die. I have to make myself stop playing Spy and go back to a more mudane class like Medic or Engi.
You've shaken handedly made me feel bad for killing so many spies by accident.
Spies should not be standing in front of bored scouts. "Need a dispenser here!" I says, moving to bonk one as it builds. "Need a teleporter here!" I says, whipping out the bat. "WOOHOOHOO!" I says, standing over the corpse of a spy.
I'm done testing Abordight_test2 this week. A HUGE thanks to all the admins and PA crew for all your much much needed help and voting for the map when on, to help me out! I have included you all in the credit to the map on FPSbanana. I'm currently working to release abordight_test3 in a next 2 weeks or so. The next version should be fully optimized and include the long list of fixes I have for the map, so we can all have better gameplay and better fps 8-).
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You've shaken handedly made me feel bad for killing so many spies by accident.
Spies should not be standing in front of bored scouts. "Need a dispenser here!" I says, moving to bonk one as it builds. "Need a teleporter here!" I says, whipping out the bat. "WOOHOOHOO!" I says, standing over the corpse of a spy.
I feel like an instrument of despair now.
We were scoutrushing on Badlands once - about eight or nine of us.
Over voice chat as we all storm the first cap point, someone says, "Hey guys, I think we could use a teleporter."
From every speaker in the surround system, simultaneously:
"Need a teleporter here!"
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Does anyone have some mid-level advice for spies? I can usually keep my score to about the middle of the pack (on bad days, of course, I stay at the bottom, but usually I can keep up). I find the revolver is not quite as reliable as I'd like, but other than that, any suggestions?
This is a really good guide, if you haven't already watched it. It has more stuff for spies that have pretty much learned all the basics to being a spy.
I'm always reluctant to try the stalking technique because the uncloak sound seems hella loud when it happens right next to you. I've waxed many a spy based on that sound alone. Most people have pretty slow reaction times, though.
Does anyone have some mid-level advice for spies? I can usually keep my score to about the middle of the pack (on bad days, of course, I stay at the bottom, but usually I can keep up). I find the revolver is not quite as reliable as I'd like, but other than that, any suggestions?
This is a really good guide, if you haven't already watched it. It has more stuff for spies that have pretty much learned all the basics to being a spy.
I'm always reluctant to try the stalking technique because the uncloak sound seems hella loud when it happens right next to you. I've waxed many a spy based on that sound alone. Most people have pretty slow reaction times, though.
I've always been afraid of uncloaking next to people because of this, but I've never heard the uncloaking sound from other spies. It hasn't really been a problem for me, the only time it was a problem was when I was trying to get some lone engineer.
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Does anyone have some mid-level advice for spies? I can usually keep my score to about the middle of the pack (on bad days, of course, I stay at the bottom, but usually I can keep up). I find the revolver is not quite as reliable as I'd like, but other than that, any suggestions?
This is a really good guide, if you haven't already watched it. It has more stuff for spies that have pretty much learned all the basics to being a spy.
I'm always reluctant to try the stalking technique because the uncloak sound seems hella loud when it happens right next to you. I've waxed many a spy based on that sound alone. Most people have pretty slow reaction times, though.
I've always been afraid of uncloaking next to people because of this, but I've never heard the uncloaking sound from other spies. It hasn't really been a problem for me, the only time it was a problem was when I was trying to get some lone engineer.
I usually uncloak somewhere first and then run around uncloaked. But if I so happen to find a delicious target nearby and am cloaked, i try to time my uncloak so that I'll reach my target just in time to stab them and then run away again.
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Hruka doesn't like being my medic, because, well, suicidal Pyro is suicidal and he just isn't down with that. :P
I can get pretty insane tunnel vision as a pyro and I usually tend to rush straight through the enemy until I'm cut off from friendlies.
The only people I'll really beeline towards are Medics, because killing them (or making them pop an Uber early) means that Pyro Is Credit To Team. Also, they extinguish my flames.
Speaking of, my progress on Grand Rounds got reset the other day. o_O
Medics are my number one target. They're so helpless and make it impossible for me to kill anyone they're attached to. I'll ignore everything until the medics are dead. Even if I die the moment after killing one I will be satisfied.
I was actually going to ask if other people can hear the uncloak sound. I don't think they should be able to if they can, as the "stalking" technique is integral to being a spy, as it's so hard to be one as it is.
I would not object to a world where the failure of the Romulan cloaking device is not accompanied by a cheezy sound effect, although I would probably clock a few more hours as Pyro.
really i've never used the stalking technique. I don't target classes that I know I couldn't catch up with after decloaking from safety and going from there.
Medics are my number one target. They're so helpless and make it impossible for me to kill anyone they're attached to. I'll ignore everything until the medics are dead. Even if I die the moment after killing one I will be satisfied.
The most effective Pyro weapon is truly "chaos."
Nothing makes a pack of players scatter like a surprise Pyro encounter, short of crit explosive - in which case it's not the players scattering as much as their individual limbs.
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Medics are my number one target. They're so helpless and make it impossible for me to kill anyone they're attached to. I'll ignore everything until the medics are dead. Even if I die the moment after killing one I will be satisfied.
The most effective Pyro weapon is truly "chaos."
Nothing makes a pack of players scatter like a surprise Pyro encounter, short of crit explosive - in which case it's not the players scattering as much as their individual limbs.
Getting behind a group of enemy players without them noticing you and then torching them from behind is fantastic. Many times the medics don't even do anything. They die in one place, healing the heavy who is engaging your teammates and needs healing.
Getting behind a group of enemy players without them noticing you and then torching them from behind is fantastic. Many times the medics don't even do anything. They die in one place, healing the heavy who is engaging your teammates and needs healing.
I just about got Clearcutter doing that once. Goddamn overhealed Heavy died to burn damage right after my second chop. :x
Edit - Seriously, this achievement is taunting me. I can't even get it when we're all dicking around and doing Melee-Only games. That and Pyromancer are the only two left.
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I unlock all the weapons and then just forget about achievements. Somewhere down the line I'll get some of the harder, or more grinding-based ones, without even knowing I was due to get them until the pop-up and fireworks.
@ Asiina: yeah, happens to me a lot actually. I can only assume that I haven't really hit them, despite all signs to the contrary, rather than the horrific idea of the crit not registering.
Sniper bloodspots and fluffed melee hits are some of my more major pet peeves.
I unlock all the weapons and then just forget about achievements. Somewhere down the line I'll get some of the harder, or more grinding-based ones, without even knowing I was due to get them until the pop-up and fireworks.
@ Asiina: yeah, happens to me a lot actually. I can only assume that I haven't really hit them, despite all signs to the contrary, rather than the horrific idea of the crit not registering.
Sniper bloodspots and fluffed melee hits are some of my more major pet peeves.
It's only because I've gotten so goddamn close that it's annoying.
And I don't unlock squat - I'm still two achievements short of the Kritz for those few moments when I decide to play Medic. Which is also why I'm pissed that Grand Rounds got reset, as I was about 25 heals off. :x
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Which is also why I'm pissed that Grand Rounds got reset, as I was about 25 heals off. :x
Why not accumulate about 25 more heals then just unlock the achievement? You're not really cheating yourself out of anything if your progress was reset somehow.
Side Note: I favor a somewhat different approach regarding unlocks than most here, opting to unlock the milestones for the duration of the free weekend, then relocking them after that's over. New weapon fun for ~3 days, then achievements that count for something thereafter.
I can't figure out how to make some of the graphical errors disappear. I just need to edit the capture point entities and then I'm declaring this version done, mainly because I've been annoyed to hell and back by this damned train.
So, yeah, nothing to be too excited about other than the whole new area. Not sure how well it plays, there might be too much room. Blarghargh.
EDIT: this is the same level as the one with the trainyard.
I can't figure out how to make some of the graphical errors disappear. I just need to edit the capture point entities and then I'm declaring this version done, mainly because I've been annoyed to hell and back by this damned train.
So, yeah, nothing to be too excited about other than the whole new area. Not sure how well it plays, there might be too much room. Blarghargh.
EDIT: this is the same level as the one with the trainyard.
Which is also why I'm pissed that Grand Rounds got reset, as I was about 25 heals off. :x
Why not accumulate about 25 more heals then just unlock the achievement? You're not really cheating yourself out of anything if your progress was reset somehow.
Side Note: I favor a somewhat different approach regarding unlocks than most here, opting to unlock the milestones for the duration of the free weekend, then relocking them after that's over. New weapon fun for ~3 days, then achievements that count for something thereafter.
/shrugs
I hardly play Medic anyhow, so it's not like it's a major concern to me.
If I lost my Pyro weapons though, you'd better believe I'd be unlocking that shit right the fuck now.
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Agreed. The only time i tend to spy is for specific objectives, i.e. taking out an enemy base or sentry.
I like revolver spy.
If I try to play actual spy I get frustrated and stop after a few minutes.
same here... the ppl that are good at in on our servers must have spent alot of time practicing...
Honestly, when PA spies get me it's nearly always because I'm busy with other stuff. If I'm not firing at the enemies I'm always spychecking anything that moves. When I get backstabbed it's usually because I'm already firing at three other guys.
once you really get a handle on moving like the other team, it becomes 'wait for them to line up, and then reap as though they were wheat'
that's probably just me though
Also, to that scout who yelled medic once then started whining in voice chat, f u.
It's like, no, I will not rush over and overheal you you bastard, this guy is at 25% of his max life.
Edit: Um, tuftoo...
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Not only is it frustrating but it makes my heartrate spike. I get so nervous when I play spy that sometimes my hands will actually shake when I die. I have to make myself stop playing Spy and go back to a more mudane class like Medic or Engi.
I can get pretty insane tunnel vision as a pyro and I usually tend to rush straight through the enemy until I'm cut off from friendlies.
For those talking about mastering spy - the best thing to do is set expectations. Sure, sometimes you see someone rack up four or five backstabs in quick succession, but the spy isn't always a minister of death like that. That OMFGNinja vid is actually good in this respect in that a lot of the stuff it shows is a single quick backstab, cloak, run away. It doesn't feel as good as scything the entire advancing enemy front, but even a single backstab can massively turn the tides.
So sad
The only people I'll really beeline towards are Medics, because killing them (or making them pop an Uber early) means that Pyro Is Credit To Team. Also, they extinguish my flames.
Speaking of, my progress on Grand Rounds got reset the other day. o_O
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
Just seeing Spy (backstab) Teammate in the kill notifications is enough to make Snipers unscope, Heavies turn around, and Engys ... well, they keep the Wrench out, they just start smacking something other than their buildings. :P
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
You've shaken handedly made me feel bad for killing so many spies by accident.
Spies should not be standing in front of bored scouts. "Need a dispenser here!" I says, moving to bonk one as it builds. "Need a teleporter here!" I says, whipping out the bat. "WOOHOOHOO!" I says, standing over the corpse of a spy.
I feel like an instrument of despair now.
huzzah!
Hey, which one? Does it have a forum I can browse to see if it's a place I'd like to stop by some time?
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We were scoutrushing on Badlands once - about eight or nine of us.
Over voice chat as we all storm the first cap point, someone says, "Hey guys, I think we could use a teleporter."
From every speaker in the surround system, simultaneously:
"Need a teleporter here!"
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
I'm always reluctant to try the stalking technique because the uncloak sound seems hella loud when it happens right next to you. I've waxed many a spy based on that sound alone. Most people have pretty slow reaction times, though.
I've always been afraid of uncloaking next to people because of this, but I've never heard the uncloaking sound from other spies. It hasn't really been a problem for me, the only time it was a problem was when I was trying to get some lone engineer.
I usually uncloak somewhere first and then run around uncloaked. But if I so happen to find a delicious target nearby and am cloaked, i try to time my uncloak so that I'll reach my target just in time to stab them and then run away again.
Medics are my number one target. They're so helpless and make it impossible for me to kill anyone they're attached to. I'll ignore everything until the medics are dead. Even if I die the moment after killing one I will be satisfied.
I did stab one once, though.
The most effective Pyro weapon is truly "chaos."
Nothing makes a pack of players scatter like a surprise Pyro encounter, short of crit explosive - in which case it's not the players scattering as much as their individual limbs.
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
Getting behind a group of enemy players without them noticing you and then torching them from behind is fantastic. Many times the medics don't even do anything. They die in one place, healing the heavy who is engaging your teammates and needs healing.
I just about got Clearcutter doing that once. Goddamn overhealed Heavy died to burn damage right after my second chop. :x
Edit - Seriously, this achievement is taunting me. I can't even get it when we're all dicking around and doing Melee-Only games. That and Pyromancer are the only two left.
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
@ Asiina: yeah, happens to me a lot actually. I can only assume that I haven't really hit them, despite all signs to the contrary, rather than the horrific idea of the crit not registering.
Sniper bloodspots and fluffed melee hits are some of my more major pet peeves.
It's only because I've gotten so goddamn close that it's annoying.
And I don't unlock squat - I'm still two achievements short of the Kritz for those few moments when I decide to play Medic. Which is also why I'm pissed that Grand Rounds got reset, as I was about 25 heals off. :x
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
Why not accumulate about 25 more heals then just unlock the achievement? You're not really cheating yourself out of anything if your progress was reset somehow.
Side Note: I favor a somewhat different approach regarding unlocks than most here, opting to unlock the milestones for the duration of the free weekend, then relocking them after that's over. New weapon fun for ~3 days, then achievements that count for something thereafter.
I can't figure out how to make some of the graphical errors disappear. I just need to edit the capture point entities and then I'm declaring this version done, mainly because I've been annoyed to hell and back by this damned train.
So, yeah, nothing to be too excited about other than the whole new area. Not sure how well it plays, there might be too much room. Blarghargh.
EDIT: this is the same level as the one with the trainyard.
looks atlot better than it did the other day!
/shrugs
I hardly play Medic anyhow, so it's not like it's a major concern to me.
If I lost my Pyro weapons though, you'd better believe I'd be unlocking that shit right the fuck now.
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