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Pokémon (Tournament OVER) - Chen Wins! Also TRU Shaymin giveaway Feb. now-14th

BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
edited February 2009 in Games and Technology
Welcome to the world of Pokémon!
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Oh Snap! March 22nd, everyone!
The important thing about Platinum is recording your replays and spoiling other people's precious secret movesets.


How do I play Pokémon?!
Let's start with the basics.
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Alright enough of all that let me show you how to really play pokemon.
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NOW SOME GENERAL BATTLING RULES. WITH CAPS

- Pokémon battles through Wi-fi automatically level your Pokémon to either levels 50 or 100. So you don't have to train them to level 100 yourself, saving a lot of time.
-Sleep Clause: you may not put more than one of your opponent's Pokémon to sleep at a time.
-Species Clause: your team must be comprised of six different species of Pokémon.
-Suicide Clause: If both players are down to their last Pokémon, the player with the first Pokémon to hit 0 HP is the loser. In other words, using moves like Self Destruct and Explosion cause you to lose, even if it kills your opponent. However, using a move with a recoil that kill both you and your opponent is a win for you.
-No Legendary Pokémon whatsoever.
-No Wobbuffet. You may ask "Wynaut?", but you should already know.
-No Garchomp. You may ask "Wynaut?", and I really couldn't tell you.

Pokémon Resources:

PokéMart: All Pokémon trading can be done here: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=25308. READ THE RULES

Strategies that have been proven useful

GameFAQs, links posted by Kay
Natures Chart.

Pokédex.

General Breeding/Customization FAQ.

Pokédexes
Psypokes
Serebii's Pokédex
Marriland's Pokedex
Veekun -Narian

IV Calculators
Metal Kid's IV Calculator
Serebii's IV Calculator
Psypokes' IV Calculator

Team Builder
Marriland's Pokémon Team Builder - Figure out your team's strengths and weaknesses!

EV Training
Psypokés' Guide
Serebii's


Art Resources
Sprites from every game
Ken Sugimori art of every Pokémon

Community
Smogon is big on competitive battling

Serebii forums will melt your soul. Beware.

Wi-Fi Help
FAQ on trading and GTS
Serebii has one for battling

Everything
Bulbapedia... everything about Pokémon. Has high traffic, so load times will be long-ish

And now, some useless knowledge!

- Pokémon is a made-up composite word.
- None of the Pokémons' names change in Spanish translations from either continent, yet, they change in France, Italy and some others. Oh yeah, Latin America hasn't got the Spain Spanish translation since the RBY days, by the way.
- Ledian is based on Pulseman, which is a character from another game made by Game Freak, but it was released on the Genesis/Mega Drive.
- Pulseman's nemesis was the Galaxy Gang. Sound familiar?
- If you evolve a Pokémon with a Japanese name on an American GBA cart, and that name was the default one, it will keep its name. But if you do that on DP, its name will be the evolution's. It won't change if it's an actual nickname, though.
- Infernape is based on Sun Wukong, a character from a very old Chinese Book called Journey to the West. Sun Wukong is pronounced Son Goku in Japanese, and he bore a staff while flying on a cloud.

And now, some slightly more useful knowledge.

- You can get new wallpapers for your boxes in Jubilife City's TV station. Details here.
- Pokémon Battle Revolution sucks, unless you can find it for cheap.
- Pokémon Ranch: Pokémon go in, what comes out? MOTHERFUCKERS!
- You can check an Eggs Nature before it hatches. Heres how.
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Fear Drifloon!

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    and then that trainer proceeded to use Poison Gas on you and it never hit in the 5 or 6 turns it took you to beat his team.

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  • Emerlmaster999Emerlmaster999 Sleepy Ferrets Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, it's humorous how the NPC trainers always brag about the supposed "skillz" of their two Rattata and Pidgey.


    After careful analysis of the Type Chart, I narrowed it down to two of the three promising Pokemon Ink witnessed. They are both viable for different purposes and as such, will both be used in Platinum. The third will remain, however, just in case I decide one of the two doesn't work out as well.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Fear the rattatta.

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  • Emerlmaster999Emerlmaster999 Sleepy Ferrets Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I don't really get the internet's hard-on for FEAR Rattata. It's got very little in offensive power, gets disrupted by priority moves, Stealth Rock/Spikes, and Sandstorm/Hail, and is completely useless against Ghosts.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Where be Chen? I probably missed him again. Guess I'll catch him tomorrow night.

    edit: FEAR is insanely predictable too. You see a fucking Rattata or Pidgey or some other base form you know what's coming. So you switch out to something that can put it down in one shot completely circumventing the whole strategy and taking minimal damage as it trys to stop you.

  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Smeargle makes a good FEAR for all those reasons, I would think.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    <Pokemon> sucks so hard! All you need to do is switch to <Counter>.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    But FEAR genuinely sucks hard Blue. You can switch to ANYTHING and beat it.

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Fighting Boatrower-Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ...so you're essentially passing over actual tournament worthy pokes to run something that would only work if your name was Ash Ketchum? It sounds like some sort of horrible strategy one would get off the anime.

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  • dingus xavierdingus xavier Registered User
    edited October 2008
    You don't NEED to use a rattata or Pidgey. Use a Mamoswine, say- it gets Endeavor and Ice Shard.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Question: Does Stealth Rock negate a Focus Sash on a Shedinja and kill it instantly? I'm pretty sure it does but I was just wondering.

  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    SirToasty wrote: »
    But FEAR genuinely sucks hard Blue. You can switch to ANYTHING and beat it.

    Heh, why would someone switch out? Surely they can handle a weak little rattata! FEAR is a great pokemon.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    But FEAR genuinely sucks hard Blue. You can switch to ANYTHING and beat it.

    Heh, why would someone switch out? Surely they can handle a weak little rattata! FEAR is a great pokemon if your opponent is clueless.

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Fighting Boatrower-Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I think I get the idea- you bring it in, get it to slap something, then switch it out before it gets squished? Nice, for the one time it might work- then you'll know it's coming.

    EDIT: Or you read about it online and keep it in mind from then on. Might as well run Destiny Bond and kill the attacker outright if needed.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    SirToasty wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    But FEAR genuinely sucks hard Blue. You can switch to ANYTHING and beat it.

    Heh, why would someone switch out? Surely they can handle a weak little rattata! FEAR is a great pokemon if your opponent is clueless.

    Exactly. The whole idea is that they don't see it coming. They probably can't see past their own shiny palkia to even know what you are using.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yeah, I'm inclined to wonder why anyone would use an actual Rattata for FEAR. I personally would use Kangaskhan. Endeavor via Egg Move and Sucker Punch, plus you can throw in a couple of other good moves like Outrage if you think your opponent suspects something. The main problem would be the probability of it surviving with a bunch of HP, but considering how common Close Combat and other powerful Fighting moves I wouldn't be too worried. Plus Sucker Punch ought to be enough to finish off even a Poke that isn't quite at 1 HP yet.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    JaysonFour wrote: »
    I think I get the idea- you bring it in, get it to slap something, then switch it out before it gets squished? Nice, for the one time it might work- then you'll know it's coming.

    EDIT: Or you read about it online and keep it in mind from then on. Might as well run Destiny Bond and kill the attacker outright if needed.
    Focus Sash keeps the weakling alive (it should be as slow as possible with low defenses) and then you use Endeavor on that turn to bring the opponent to 1 HP and Quick Attack the next turn for the kill. But then you have a totally useless Rattata or similar with 1 HP that could have been something that could take out the opponent's pokemon anyway.

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Fighting Boatrower-Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Exactly. The whole idea is that they don't see it coming. They probably can't see past their own shiny palkia to even know what you are using.

    Uh, Blue, even I could see that one coming from a mile away. You might see a Trapinch or three, but someone pulling out Rattata or Pidgey? Either that person has as much competitive experience as I do or they're hoping to play someone with as much experience as I have.

    Otherwise it'll raise one hell of an "Uh-oh, sneaky shit comin'" flag in anyone else's mind. You might get a couple of wins over newbies with it, but that's it.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Smeargle FEAR avoids a lot of those problems.


    Except the whole "Only kill one Pokemon" thing, but I only said it was better.

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  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    It nets you a kill but guarantees one for the opponent as well. Totally pointless. You might as well explode on them.

    Speaking of Explosion, I want to make a Lickilicky for the sole purpose of having the most powerful attack in the game at my disposal: STAB and Choice Band Explosion.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Holy crap. I just ran a Lickilicky with max Attack, max attack boosts and a Choice Band using critical hit Explosion against a Happiny with minimum defense and max defense reduction through a damage calculator.

    Over 1,000,000 damage.

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Fighting Boatrower-Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ...need any ketchup for the scrambled egg? :P

    I might go into breeding heavily- got a lot of untouched "caught-for-the-pokedex" guys in my games. I'm looting my R/S/E/FR games of any useful pokemon so I can see just what I have. LG is being used to pillage Colosseum and XD. When I can IV test them all (maybe 350-400 in all), then I'll know what I have.

    But I've been meaning to IV check my shiny Shellos to see if it's any good.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well I fear the Rattata.
    I have a small handful of priority, one ghost, no rocks/spikes. I do have sandstorm, but maybe its not up yet? or maybe I didn't bring the Hippo.
    and its not like Rattata has to be at 1HP to deal damage with Endeavor. Even at full health it only has maybe 100 HP? That definitely sucks for anyone that doesn't have recovery.
    Anyway, its not going to devastate a team but it can deal an annoying amount of damage to most anything with little effort. How do you protect yourself from taking any damage? Switch to a ghost? Or have something with a priority attack already out and the Rat has to lose its sash to spikes or something.
    I don't think thats difficult for the fear user to avoid.

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    JaysonFour wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Exactly. The whole idea is that they don't see it coming. They probably can't see past their own shiny palkia to even know what you are using.

    Uh, Blue, even I could see that one coming from a mile away. You might see a Trapinch or three, but someone pulling out Rattata or Pidgey? Either that person has as much competitive experience as I do or they're hoping to play someone with as much experience as I have.

    Otherwise it'll raise one hell of an "Uh-oh, sneaky shit comin'" flag in anyone else's mind. You might get a couple of wins over newbies with it, but that's it.

    I notice you did not spell any of your words wrong in your post. You underestimate your own ability!

    People are dumb and it is funny to beat them up with a crappy pokemon. I do not understand how y'all are suddenly like "ha, why use that pokemon, there are much stronger ones!" That's my line~

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  • GigatonGigaton Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yay, new thread.

    Breeding and training is getting more and more tedious for me, but honestly the the thrill of battles is somewhat worth it. I'm only going to train about three more and then that's it for quite some time. Is there any info about whether or not breeding and EV training in Pt would go any faster/more efficient?

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    The best counter to a FEAR?

    A starter with fake-out :O

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Superwoman Punch! Wrestlemania LXIIIRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So how are things going? The list of fights has gotten very small. I guess Speed hasn't caught up yet, which is ironic...

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  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    He is sick!

    Though considering round four was supposed to be over friday, we are not so far behind.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, I still haven't had an opportunity to fight aggril.

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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Hooray new thread!

    I'm very nervous for Round 6.

    But in the end, I know that my love and trust for my Pokemon will show me the path to victory!

    (and make me into a Pokemon Master)
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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You are only nervous because you don't want to fight Jugs :P

    Well, fighting dingus would also be tough, unless you already fought earlier or something.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyone want to battle?

    @nealcm @faynor
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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Where be Chen? I probably missed him again. Guess I'll catch him tomorrow night.
    Sorry, I haven't spent much time on the internet these past days. I'll probably be on in the evening, but I suppose you'd have to be available as well. I definitely can't make it for tonight.

    Also, dang, RMD, how did you manage to win 4 games in a row? You cad.

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  • NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Nerdgasmic wrote: »
    Anyone want to battle?

    @nealcm @faynor
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  • RedMageDarionRedMageDarion Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Chen wrote: »
    SirToasty wrote: »
    Where be Chen? I probably missed him again. Guess I'll catch him tomorrow night.
    Sorry, I haven't spent much time on the internet these past days. I'll probably be on in the evening, but I suppose you'd have to be available as well. I definitely can't make it for tonight.

    Also, dang, RMD, how did you manage to win 4 games in a row? You cad.
    Be quiet you.

    You and your so-called "team"

    I blame the fact that I lost to you on not having had a chance to warm up yet... yeah, that's the ticket.
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    EDIT: and Nerd, before you ask, I'm at work (on Saturday? UGH) so I can't battle.

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  • AggrilAggril Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Munkus and I will somehow manage to meet up! At some point!

    Mostly my fault, due to a mild cold and trying to figure out how to move a couple dozen boxes of random crap. But I'll be around, dang it!

    Meantime I think I'll make a second Armor Wolf, with a different moveset. He's been doing so well in his matches, I believe adding an egg move or two could make even more of an improvement. I don't think I'll be allowed to use the second one in this tournament, but I'll keep him for other matches.

  • Kay2Kay2 Registered User
    edited October 2008
    MushyRacer is using the only Floatzel in the tournament?!

    I'm very disappointed I missed sign ups for this, but not as disappointed as I am in Kay for not bringing Shivneas.

    Well yes you see right.

    I was experimenting with Sandstorm, as you can see from my selection. Shivneas kinda NEEDS Rain Dance to function, so... :|

    Also, my team selection is kinda crappy. I have... holes in there. Big holes. Some people exploit them and DESTROY ME (Zerokku), others don't, and we have pretty close matches (Reynolds, Jugs and Rockin.)

    I still believe that if I'd kept my cool and used <Move I Didn't Use> on <My Pokémon> in the last round of that fight with Jugs instead of what I'd done, I had a chance of winning. Then again, I hadn't seen his last Pokémon at all, but I had the possiblity of finishing off what he had out and being on near-max health. But I didn't and I got kilt, so hey!

  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Fighting Boatrower-Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I've decided to start culling through my ten-mile-long list of possible breeding material. Is Nature more important than IVs, or does it work the other way around?

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  • dingus xavierdingus xavier Registered User
    edited October 2008
    Nature is more important, although IVs are also crucual IMO. Also, nature is easier to breed for.

    Jugs, I'll be around all day if you show up to battle.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Nature is the most important, although some are interchangable like Relaxed/Sassy or Mild/Rash or Naive/Hasty. Then of importance are, depending on the role, speed and atk/spatk or HP and def/spdef.

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