Ninja Snarl PMy helmet is my burden.Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered Userregular
edited February 2009
I've never played Daggerfall, so this is my first time seeing how huge the area is that the game takes place in. Looks like the country is actually the size of, y'know, a country That one chunk of the whole map looks like it's a significant portion of the whole of the Oblivion map.
So glad modern devs prioritize shiny graphics over everything else regardless of genre.
The only reason Daggerfall seems so big is that the terrain is randomly generated not hand placed. The country side is nothing but repeating things over and over again.
Okay. The bottom image there? Look at where the pointer is hovering over. That is me zooming in on our location.
Now let me show you where we can go...
I can go to ANY of those provinces. Daggerfall is one of the smaller provinces compared with the Dragontail or Wrothgarian Mountain areas. Oh, and those are full of towns and dungeons, too. I'd say Oblivion takes place in about half the area of the zoomed in image, where I have the pointer over Privateer's Hold, if that. This game is big.
I've never played Daggerfall, so this is my first time seeing how huge the area is that the game takes place in. Looks like the country is actually the size of, y'know, a country That one chunk of the whole map looks like it's a significant portion of the whole of the Oblivion map.
So glad modern devs prioritize shiny graphics over everything else regardless of genre.
Almost every single one of those places is extremely boring with no reason to go there ever.
Go to the Orsinium area and explore every single town and dungeon there. It should take all of five seconds.
Edit: Go to some flyover province and take out a huge loan.
Up the stairs, turn to the righ--- oh hey, what's this? Is there something in that room over there? I hear some grunting...
OH SHIT AN ORC
OH SHIT YES I KILLED AN ORC WITHOUT A SCRATCH ON ME. HELL YEAH.
Nothing like the good ol' critical strike talent kicking in!
Although why does everyone have armor that fits just right?
I think it's some sort of Daedric magic tied to the "Backpack" that magically transforms the armor. Or maybe that poor Orc was hoping to score lots of points w/ hot elven warrior babes at the inns. :winky:
((OOC: Well folks, we're out of the dungeon. What do I do now? I'll be stopping at Gothway Garden, the town directly south of here to sell off loot, then where? What should Zaba do now?))
I'd suggest looting armor shops and smithys until you get a compete suit of Orcish armor, except YOU CAN'T WEAR PLATE ARMOR ... dumbarse!!
Well, at least try to loot a couple of shops in Gothway Garden. That'll get the Thieves' Guild's attention.
Go to the Orsinium area and explore every single town and dungeon there. It should take all of five seconds.
Edit: Go to some flyover province and take out a huge loan.
So, is there any method of downloading this from online somewhere for free like Bethesda did with the first TES game on their site?
Bethesda has never released Daggerfall for free. To get it legally, you will have find someone with a used copy they are willing to sell. If you want a complete package, it can get pricey.
I heard they were thinking about it when Morrowind was released, but apparently they don't own all the publishing rights to it. I think they made Arena free awhile ago, but that isn't very good.
Looking at the catalog pamphlet included with the copy I have, the game was $79.99 when it first came out. Yeesh. I do remember some computer games being that pricey back then. I do wish Bethesda still had the same artistic flair with the box art like they did with the Daggerfall box. It is quite shiny. The Battlespire and Redguard boxes are pretty neat as well.
It is kind of odd nowadays how computer games are lower priced, but I think, even back then, their prices would drop quickly after release.
Everything's default, although I did run DFGamma a few times. You can get that program from Here. If you've got a dark monitor, it'll brighten up everything.
I've also used Irfanview to double the size of the shots from 320x200 to 640x400.
wow seriously default? is that cpu settings too? because if it is you might be running into a few game stopping bugs along the way.. also it must be kinda slow fps wise.
Hey wait...I remember now. There's an inn, filled with Daedric weaponry. I always used to go there after exiting the first dungeon. Got me some spanky Deadric gear and extras to sell.
Where does the main plotline go from here? Seems to me the game is staggeringly huge so you should follow the plot and take any interesting detours on the way. If we pick a random direction or explore a province (look at all those dots!) we'll never get ahead.
That said, if the main plot doesn't take you there, I'd like to see the island of Cybiades... It seems like the most manageable in size.
Hey wait...I remember now. There's an inn, filled with Daedric weaponry. I always used to go there after exiting the first dungeon. Got me some spanky Deadric gear and extras to sell.
Hey wait...I remember now. There's an inn, filled with Daedric weaponry. I always used to go there after exiting the first dungeon. Got me some spanky Deadric gear and extras to sell.
But that's very cheap :P
tell me the name of this inn.
Ok. Here's a list of cheapo places to get free Daedric gear.
ooh.. so its a save game trick thing? dont think ill bother then, if i didnt have to do a trick to get them i wouldnt of minded but it somehow seems like a cheat/exploit and thats not cool with my dark elf.
ooh.. so its a save game trick thing? dont think ill bother then, if i didnt have to do a trick to get them i wouldnt of minded but it somehow seems like a cheat/exploit and thats not cool with my dark elf.
Like I said: it's a cheap thing. Getting Daedric the normal way requires a certain character level, I believe, since material types in drops are tied to your level.
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Has anyone tried running this through dosbox on os x? If such a thing is possible I might have to track down a copy.
Has anyone tried running this through dosbox on os x? If such a thing is possible I might have to track down a copy.
Dunno. I'm running it just fine using Dosbox on Vista, so I imagine if there's a working Dosbox on OSX then it'd work too. Though I couldn't get Andyfall working with mine either, so there's that.
Also, all this trouble with the plate armor is exactly why I always do custom classes, even if I end up with something functionally identical to a pre-made one. Cuz yeah, I don't remember if there are any other material types for the light armors. I think it did just go leather, chain, then iron/steel/silver/etc.
For playing this game at least 6 times over the years, I have never gone further in the main quest than
going to meet the noble lady after getting her letter.
Since i'm already cursing this thread for making me get dosbox up and running to play this again, I might as well do something new. God I love this game.
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Looking at the catalog pamphlet included with the copy I have, the game was $79.99 when it first came out. Yeesh. I do remember some computer games being that pricey back then. I do wish Bethesda still had the same artistic flair with the box art like they did with the Daggerfall box. It is quite shiny. The Battlespire and Redguard boxes are pretty neat as well.
It is kind of odd nowadays how computer games are lower priced, but I think, even back then, their prices would drop quickly after release.
It was $49.99 at retail. Back in those days (heh) game companies sold their games direct to consumers at a much higher price to encourage them to go to the stores. It was kinda weird.
It probably is a skewed price. Phantasmagoria was around $70 at Best Buy back in '95. I do remember that. You rarely see price gouging on PC games anymore. Considering Duke3D came out around that time, the game was reasonably current in the 2D/3D graphics department. I do remember PC Gamer complaining about the bugs. That shifted away my interest in it. I might even still have the magazine laying around.
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It probably is a skewed price. Phantasmagoria was around $70 at Best Buy back in '95. I do remember that. You rarely see price gouging on PC games anymore. Considering Duke3D came out around that time, the game was reasonably current in the 2D/3D graphics department. I do remember PC Gamer complaining about the bugs. That shifted away my interest in it. I might even still have the magazine laying around.
Phantasmagoria was that price at retail because of the whole 7 CDs thing...
And yea, PC Gamer complained about the bugs. They still gave it an Editor's Choice award tho.
((Double post, yes. It's an update, so it's warranted.))
Well, might as well head to this "Gothway Garden" place. Might be a good place to sell my loot.
Here I am! To the shops, first! But where ARE they?
I'm here... and I feel like there are three general stores in a cluster to the southwest...
Cluster sighted. Time to sell my loot.
Damn this place is dirty, and everything here is rusted and pitted. The stuff in my pack looks like it was just smithed compared to this crap. Which means that these guys will give me the most money for my entirely legitimately gotten weapons! Unfortunately, general stores don't buy armor, and this place doesn't have a weapon smith or armorer, so I'll have to wait until I get to a bigger city to pawn any non-weapon or book loot off.
Less talky more money.
Sweet! Six thousand gold for selling this crap to him? Hell yes!
Bullshit. Fine, three thousand it is. Fucking liar.
Might as well buy a horse for faster travel and a cart to hold more loot while I'm here. The horse may be missing two legs, and the cart may not have a bottom, but they're cheap.
...how the hell did he fit a horse and cart onto a shelf, anyway?
Eugh. Cheap is a relative term of course. A third of my recently-gotten cash, gone.
Across the street is a better store. Let's see what they have to offer.
Hey there.
I may not be someone who uses sabers but DAMN this thing looks shiny. I don't think I have the money for this dwarven saber so I'll just slip it in my pocket here......
Whaddaya mean I just tried to ste--
HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HA-
Let me explain, please!! I'm not trying to steal this sa--
HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALTHALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HALT HAL-
I AM GOING TO STAB YOU NOW.
*KATHWACK*
Ow shit my everything. Did I just end up in another sea wreck or so---
Wait a second this isn't a cave.
You tried to steal a dwarven saber. The punishment for this crime is banishment, on penalty of death if you return. We value our relics VERY highly here, even if we will sell them out for a few hundred gold pieces. How do you plead?
NOT GUILTY.
shitshithowdoIgetoutofthis
What happened, then?
I merely bumped the saber, and it just happened to tip into my pocket. I'm innocent I swear!
fuckI'mscrewedshitassdamn
That is a logical explanation. You are free to go.
fuckinghellshitdamnsh-- wait what? I can go? Hell yes!
Goddamnit they stole my kidneys and my bowels and I think a lung too oh arkay I am at your doorstep again
out of my way NEED BED NOW
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I'll make this choice easy for you. What guild should I go for?
!Fighters Guild? !Mages Guild? !Thieves Guild?
I won't go for the Dark Brotherhood unless they contact me. Which shouldn't be happening. Thieves Guild should be contacting me momentarily...
Bah, you never rob stores during the DAY! You pick the door at night, then take everything off their shelves and dump it in your cart, only to sell it back the next day!
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So glad modern devs prioritize shiny graphics over everything else regardless of genre.
Now let me show you where we can go...
I can go to ANY of those provinces. Daggerfall is one of the smaller provinces compared with the Dragontail or Wrothgarian Mountain areas. Oh, and those are full of towns and dungeons, too. I'd say Oblivion takes place in about half the area of the zoomed in image, where I have the pointer over Privateer's Hold, if that. This game is big.
Almost every single one of those places is extremely boring with no reason to go there ever.
The holidays were a nice touch.
Edit: Go to some flyover province and take out a huge loan.
Nothing like the good ol' critical strike talent kicking in!
I think it's some sort of Daedric magic tied to the "Backpack" that magically transforms the armor. Or maybe that poor Orc was hoping to score lots of points w/ hot elven warrior babes at the inns. :winky:
I'd suggest looting armor shops and smithys until you get a compete suit of Orcish armor, except YOU CAN'T WEAR PLATE ARMOR ... dumbarse!!
Well, at least try to loot a couple of shops in Gothway Garden. That'll get the Thieves' Guild's attention.
Five seconds? No, it'll take quite a bit longer.
Daggerfall didn't have any variant light armors, right?
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
He should probably just take off his pants in protest.
It is kind of odd nowadays how computer games are lower priced, but I think, even back then, their prices would drop quickly after release.
wow seriously default? is that cpu settings too? because if it is you might be running into a few game stopping bugs along the way.. also it must be kinda slow fps wise.
But that's very cheap :P
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
That said, if the main plot doesn't take you there, I'd like to see the island of Cybiades... It seems like the most manageable in size.
tell me the name of this inn.
Ok. Here's a list of cheapo places to get free Daedric gear.
Also: HOT COFFEE! (no spoilers involved, feel free to check)
http://www.svatopluk.com/daggerfall/secrets/dress.stm
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Like I said: it's a cheap thing. Getting Daedric the normal way requires a certain character level, I believe, since material types in drops are tied to your level.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Dunno. I'm running it just fine using Dosbox on Vista, so I imagine if there's a working Dosbox on OSX then it'd work too. Though I couldn't get Andyfall working with mine either, so there's that.
Also, all this trouble with the plate armor is exactly why I always do custom classes, even if I end up with something functionally identical to a pre-made one. Cuz yeah, I don't remember if there are any other material types for the light armors. I think it did just go leather, chain, then iron/steel/silver/etc.
Since i'm already cursing this thread for making me get dosbox up and running to play this again, I might as well do something new. God I love this game.
It was $49.99 at retail. Back in those days (heh) game companies sold their games direct to consumers at a much higher price to encourage them to go to the stores. It was kinda weird.
Phantasmagoria was that price at retail because of the whole 7 CDs thing...
And yea, PC Gamer complained about the bugs. They still gave it an Editor's Choice award tho.
I certainly hope we make it that far.
Unfortunately, due to time constraints and the sheer quantity of simultaneous gaming i have going on... I am not very far in. But mwahahaha!
It makes me feel good.
We need an update by the way!
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
EDIT: Update is being written.
...how the hell did he fit a horse and cart onto a shelf, anyway?
*KATHWACK*
Wait a second this isn't a cave.
shitshithowdoIgetoutofthis
fuckI'mscrewedshitassdamn
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I'll make this choice easy for you. What guild should I go for?
!Fighters Guild?
!Mages Guild?
!Thieves Guild?
I won't go for the Dark Brotherhood unless they contact me. Which shouldn't be happening. Thieves Guild should be contacting me momentarily...
If you can choose another, Mages.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
*giggles*
That's awful. Inept Thieves will inheret the earth!