Between the Reagan Democrats and "security moms", the GOP did have some female support to piss away on a crusade towards vitriol and ideological purity.
Someday Obs is going to get stabbed to death on his greatest thing ever Seminole casino (not technically the US!) for the mental anguish he created with these postsand the God of Comeuppance will laugh and laugh.
Rush Limbaugh showed restraint and didn't comment on his radio show today about Wanda Syke's crazy-ass jokes about him being a hijacker.
Good for Rush.
Even Rush can learn that if you stomp on your own dick enough times, it begins to hurt.
He's smart enough to know the trouble he would be bringing on himself to get into a war of words with someone with absolutely nothing to lose by attacking him back without any sort of verbal restraint.
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The situation is more like "Someone robbed me, and the next day I found the dude and slit his throat, ending his life" and then I'm getting accused of the crime by my friends.
Did I commit a crime? Sure.
In the context of the situation though, is it really the worst thing ever? Not really.
Holy shit did you just write what I think you wrote
DID YOU JUST EXCUSE FIRST DEGREE MURDER AS LONG AS IT'S IN RETALIATION TO PETTY THEFT
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU
Empirical evidence seems to indicate that he is functionally retarded.
Spoilered for not being relevant to the actual thread.
He is now the second person on my ignore list, for the same reason as the first: his posts are just so stupid that their very presence degrades my enjoyment of the forum. Now all I have to worry about is people quoting him, but hell, I know that as soon as I see Obs name in the quote tree I can skip the rest of the post because it's not like I'm going to miss out on anything actually relevant to the discussion.
Unfortunately, I agree that Obama (using him to stand in for the current administration en total) should not pursue prosecuting torture crimes against the Bush administration. Political expediency is the reason not to, and it is a very good reason. Look at the country now. If prosecution is brought against members of the previous administration for torture crimes, the government will shut down because _all_ attention is going to be focused on this. Outside of real emergencies, nothing is going to get done in government, and imagine the divisive friction it will cause across the country.
I predict that it's not going to be for a couple generations down the road, when it's really just an academic issue that's not going to generate a shoulder-deep shitstorm like it would now. All the responsible members of the Bush administration will be post-humously condemned for their criminal actions, and the leadership will offer an apology to the world.
I really hope Obama doesn't pursue investigation of "crimes" of a previous administration. It's petty at best, and brings up a lot of bad blood.
America just needs to let it go already. It happened, it's done. It can't be undone. So some guys that probably deserved to get tortured got "tortured". OK, so what? It won't happen again right?
Good.
It's time to look forward, not back.
Thats not the way it works Obs. If you were robbed/mugged/assaulted I doubt you'd be playing the same fucking tune if the police told you "It happened, it's done. It can't be undone."
You kind of seem like a shitty person who has no empathy toward anyone's situation outside of your own. I think that's the right word. You don't give a shit unless it happens to you. You can't even imagine what it's like in someone else's shoes.
Wrong analogy.
The situation is more like "Someone robbed me, and the next day I found the dude and slit his throat, ending his life" and then I'm getting accused of the crime by my friends.
Did I commit a crime? Sure.
In the context of the situation though, is it really the worst thing ever? Not really.
Rush Limbaugh showed restraint and didn't comment on his radio show today about Wanda Syke's crazy-ass jokes about him being a hijacker.
Good for Rush.
Even Rush can learn that if you stomp on your own dick enough times, it begins to hurt.
He's smart enough to know the trouble he would be bringing on himself to get into a war of words with someone with absolutely nothing to lose by attacking him back without any sort of verbal restraint.
I wonder about this. Surely he has attacked people in the private sector before, even those who may have sharp tongues. Getting into big fights is probably good for ratings.
Perhaps they cant really make a big deal out of it without actually playing the clip, which brings up the whole oxycontin issue which I'm sure he'd rather not do.
Alternatively, there are just so many people and issues on his list to talk about and attack, that Wanda Sykes is kinda small fish. Its not like mustard or something.
Perhaps they cant really make a big deal out of it without actually playing the clip, which brings up the whole oxycontin issue which I'm sure he'd rather not do.
Was that what she brought up? Because then I would imagine that is the issue that's keeping him from attacking her and she'd be more than happy to go toe to toe with him on.
Rush Limbaugh showed restraint and didn't comment on his radio show today about Wanda Syke's crazy-ass jokes about him being a hijacker.
Good for Rush.
Even Rush can learn that if you stomp on your own dick enough times, it begins to hurt.
He's smart enough to know the trouble he would be bringing on himself to get into a war of words with someone with absolutely nothing to lose by attacking him back without any sort of verbal restraint.
I wonder about this. Surely he has attacked people in the private sector before, even those who may have sharp tongues. Getting into big fights is probably good for ratings.
Perhaps they cant really make a big deal out of it without actually playing the clip, which brings up the whole oxycontin issue which I'm sure he'd rather not do.
Alternatively, there are just so many people and issues on his list to talk about and attack, that Wanda Sykes is kinda small fish. Its not like mustard or something.
It's partly because of the oxycontin thing and it's partly because deep down Rush is a dickless piece of shit. Starting shit with a comedian is one of the dumbest things you can do, because they can get away with saying truly outrageous things under the banner of comedy. He knows that, unlike a politician, she would be ready, willing and able to drag up all of his dirty little deeds and gleefully parade them before the public and there wouldn't be a damn thing he could do about it. So, like all insecure bullies, he sticks to the targets he knows can't or won't fight back.
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Rush Limbaugh showed restraint and didn't comment on his radio show today about Wanda Syke's crazy-ass jokes about him being a hijacker.
Good for Rush.
Even Rush can learn that if you stomp on your own dick enough times, it begins to hurt.
He's smart enough to know the trouble he would be bringing on himself to get into a war of words with someone with absolutely nothing to lose by attacking him back without any sort of verbal restraint.
I wonder about this. Surely he has attacked people in the private sector before, even those who may have sharp tongues. Getting into big fights is probably good for ratings.
Perhaps they cant really make a big deal out of it without actually playing the clip, which brings up the whole oxycontin issue which I'm sure he'd rather not do.
Alternatively, there are just so many people and issues on his list to talk about and attack, that Wanda Sykes is kinda small fish. Its not like mustard or something.
Wanda would gain more fame from an exchange than Rush, and it would absolutely be to her benefit. Rush would gain virtually nothing.
And the shooting/interrogating joke was pretty good, too. It was just really funny to see Obama drop a fairly racial joke. I don't know, I really like that he finds race something worthy of light humor.
Unfortunately, I agree that Obama (using him to stand in for the current administration en total) should not pursue prosecuting torture crimes against the Bush administration. Political expediency is the reason not to, and it is a very good reason. Look at the country now. If prosecution is brought against members of the previous administration for torture crimes, the government will shut down because _all_ attention is going to be focused on this. Outside of real emergencies, nothing is going to get done in government, and imagine the divisive friction it will cause across the country.
Fuck political expediency. It's not an excuse for not doing the right thing. Crimes must be prosecuted. Period.
And the shooting/interrogating joke was pretty good, too. It was just really funny to see Obama drop a fairly racial joke. I don't know, I really like that he finds race something worthy of light humor.
I like the joke too, but I don't know if I'd call it racial. I don't think he was making fun of the stereotype, but was making fun of Steele for trying to appeal to that stereotype. Essentially, being fake. I think it could be easily misinterpreted, and Obama gets a wider birth because of his heritage. If someone who you already were suspicious about, like Bush, made a joke about a black man acting stereotypical the knee jerk reaction would be to think he was making fun of the stereotype.
I didn't know much about Limbaugh's addiction problem, so I googled it. Pretty boring, but I found this, which is wholly unsurprising:
Limbaugh lasted only a year in college. He jokes that he flunked Public Speaking. Actually, he got a "D," his speaking teacher, Dr. Bill Stacy, told Newsweek. Limbaugh's father maneuvered him into the communications class, hoping his son would like it enough to stay in college and eventually become a lawyer. Limbaugh was more interested in riffing off the top of his head. "You need to make an outline. You need some data to support your assertions," Stacy told young Limbaugh. "Frankly, he wouldn't do those things."
I really hope Obama doesn't pursue investigation of "crimes" of a previous administration. It's petty at best, and brings up a lot of bad blood.
America just needs to let it go already. It happened, it's done. It can't be undone. So some guys that probably deserved to get tortured got "tortured". OK, so what? It won't happen again right?
The situation is more like "Someone robbed me, and the next day I found the dude and slit his throat, ending his life" and then I'm getting accused of the crime by my friends.
Did I commit a crime? Sure.
In the context of the situation though, is it really the worst thing ever? Not really.
If you don't enforce laws, what is the virtue of having them?
edit: also, I like how you put torture in quotation marks. No equivocation is possible here; the U.S. tortured people.
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Hell, what Rush does now isn't even really what I would call public speaking in any meaningful sense of the word. He sits in a sound booth and people call him to fellate him over how right he is about everything he says. He doesn't ever have to win over his audience (probably the single most difficult thing about public speaking) because he's just preaching to the choir.
Rush just needs "Pussy" tattooed onto his face. He blusters and glowers when any GOP peon doesn't kneel and kiss his ring, but a comedian (and not even a very great comedian at that; Wanda is OK but she's nowhere near as good as Dave Chapelle or even Bill Murray were in their heydeys) actually calls him a drug-addicted terrorist and he doesn't make a peep. Honestly, how pathetic can you get.
Hell, what Rush does now isn't even really what I would call public speaking in any meaningful sense of the word. He sits in a sound booth and people call him to fellate him over how right he is about everything he says. He doesn't ever have to win over his audience (probably the single most difficult thing about public speaking) because he's just preaching to the choir.
Rush just needs to "Pussy" tattooed onto his face. He blusters and glowers when any GOP peon doesn't kneel and kiss his ring, but a comedian (and not even a very great comedian at that; Wanda is OK but she's nowhere near as good as Dave Chapelle or even Bill Murray were in their heydeys) actually calls him a drug-addicted terrorist and he doesn't make a peep. Honestly, how pathetic can you get.
I hate Rush, but you can't say a person would be an idiot for getting mad at a comedian for making fun of him and then say he's pathetic for not defending himself against a comedian. When everything a person does is automatically wrong, no matter what it is, criticism against them loses any real credibility. If there's anything Rush needs, it's quality criticism.
Hell, what Rush does now isn't even really what I would call public speaking in any meaningful sense of the word. He sits in a sound booth and people call him to fellate him over how right he is about everything he says. He doesn't ever have to win over his audience (probably the single most difficult thing about public speaking) because he's just preaching to the choir.
Rush just needs to "Pussy" tattooed onto his face. He blusters and glowers when any GOP peon doesn't kneel and kiss his ring, but a comedian (and not even a very great comedian at that; Wanda is OK but she's nowhere near as good as Dave Chapelle or even Bill Murray were in their heydeys) actually calls him a drug-addicted terrorist and he doesn't make a peep. Honestly, how pathetic can you get.
I hate Rush, but you can't say a person would be an idiot for getting mad at a comedian for making fun of him and then say he's pathetic for not defending himself against a comedian. When everything a person does is automatically wrong, no matter what it is, criticism against them loses any real credibility. If there's anything Rush needs, it's quality criticism.
He'd only be an idiot if he engaged Wanda Sykes on the battleground of her choosing, namely comedy. She's done stand up, where shutting up loudmouthed, blow-hard idiots is among the first things you learn. Oh, and she's black and lesbian. The best thing he can do is shut up. Even commenting on how crass he thinks the jokes were would be pushing it, after all the terrible things he's said over his career.
One of the main reasons Limbaugh has outlived virtually every contemporary rightwing pundit is that he is very careful to pick only those fights he is sure he can win.
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I hate Rush, but you can't say a person would be an idiot for getting mad at a comedian for making fun of him and then say he's pathetic for not defending himself against a comedian. When everything a person does is automatically wrong, no matter what it is, criticism against them loses any real credibility. If there's anything Rush needs, it's quality criticism.
I see your point, and even agree with you - I'm not going to criticise his every action just because of who he is. If he donated $100,000 to the American Cancer Society or Christian Children's Fund (or "insert x altruistic act here") I wouldn't criticise that.
However, what I meant - and perhaps it wasn't clear - was that it is unwise to go up against a comedian because they're essentially untouchable, and have been for centuries. The jester/fool could say things nobody else was allowed to. That doesn't mean, though, if he really thought he was the grand high poobah of everything ever - which, given his demonstratively massive opinion of himself, he apparently does, or at least likes to project that he does - that he should take blatant insults lying down.
He feels free to criticise anyone for even minor transgressions against his ego by politicians, who stand to damage their careers by getting involved in his bullshit one way or the other. You could very easily make the argument that he's been milking the GOP for public apologies for the last several months for no other reason than to feel big about himself. And yet when someone he can't attack says things about him which are highly inflammatory... he sits quietly and pretends it didn't happen. There's nothing you can call that but cowardice, and given his stage persona of a big-assed bad-ass who shits where he pleases and doesn't give a fuck, it's really disgusting to me.
I'm probably just venting; it irks me that such a loathsome human being is so revered in this country, and that his bullshit is visibly damaging efforts to get things moving again. I don't talk about this stuff IRL to other people (who wants to hear a three-paragraph rush vent IRL anyway), but it seems to be an acceptable thing to do in here.
I'll admit that I do the Twitter thing, and there's this group called "Top Conservatives on Twitter", or #TCOT. I know Republicans are wanting to become more "Web-2.0" knowledgeable and have a higher presence, but when these core representatives go and say stuff like this:
Obama blames Bush - then he uses Chicago politics then who opposing him - is called out - wow - time to get a gun
, it makes me wonder if Republicans making a presence on the internet is all that of a good thing.
What's most fun about conservative attacks on Obama's superior politicking is the number of them throwing around the term "Chicago politics" that didn't even know the phrase existed before someone told them it can be used as a pejorative. Someone also forgot to tell them that no one gives a shit about "Chicago politics". The term is about as dead as "socialist" in terms of portraying someone negatively.
What's most fun about conservative attacks on Obama's superior politicking is the number of them throwing around the term "Chicago politics" that didn't even know the phrase existed before someone told them it can be used as a pejorative. Someone also forgot to tell them that no one gives a shit about "Chicago politics". The term is about as dead as "socialist" in terms of portraying someone negatively.
I wouldn't doubt the experts of mudslinging. If the phrase is coming back into style, AM radio hosts would definitely be in the know more than you or I.
Again, the GOP would be ten times better off if they stopped smearing liberals and started discussing the virtues of conservatism and how conservatism could make lives better. I'm going to take a stopwatch and listen to Hannity or Ingraham or Limbaugh and count the minutes they waste badmouthing the left.
I don't think the usual round of talking heads is remotely equipped to describe how conservatism can make our lives better. Inflammatory rhetoric is the beginning and end of their skillset, and if the GOP decides they have no more use for that approach, then they'll be deciding that they have no more use for Limbaugh and the rest on the very same day.
What's most fun about conservative attacks on Obama's superior politicking is the number of them throwing around the term "Chicago politics" that didn't even know the phrase existed before someone told them it can be used as a pejorative. Someone also forgot to tell them that no one gives a shit about "Chicago politics". The term is about as dead as "socialist" in terms of portraying someone negatively.
I wouldn't doubt the experts of mudslinging. If the phrase is coming back into style, AM radio hosts would definitely be in the know more than you or I.
Again, the GOP would be ten times better off if they stopped smearing liberals and started discussing the virtues of conservatism and how conservatism could make lives better. I'm going to take a stopwatch and listen to Hannity or Ingraham or Limbaugh and count the minutes they waste badmouthing the left.
What's most fun about conservative attacks on Obama's superior politicking is the number of them throwing around the term "Chicago politics" that didn't even know the phrase existed before someone told them it can be used as a pejorative. Someone also forgot to tell them that no one gives a shit about "Chicago politics". The term is about as dead as "socialist" in terms of portraying someone negatively.
Massachusetts Liberal -> San Francisco Values -> Chicago Politics. Its pretty formulaic.
Hell, what Rush does now isn't even really what I would call public speaking in any meaningful sense of the word. He sits in a sound booth and people call him to fellate him over how right he is about everything he says. He doesn't ever have to win over his audience (probably the single most difficult thing about public speaking) because he's just preaching to the choir.
Rush just needs to "Pussy" tattooed onto his face. He blusters and glowers when any GOP peon doesn't kneel and kiss his ring, but a comedian (and not even a very great comedian at that; Wanda is OK but she's nowhere near as good as Dave Chapelle or even Bill Murray were in their heydeys) actually calls him a drug-addicted terrorist and he doesn't make a peep. Honestly, how pathetic can you get.
I hate Rush, but you can't say a person would be an idiot for getting mad at a comedian for making fun of him and then say he's pathetic for not defending himself against a comedian. When everything a person does is automatically wrong, no matter what it is, criticism against them loses any real credibility. If there's anything Rush needs, it's quality criticism.
He'd only be an idiot if he engaged Wanda Sykes on the battleground of her choosing, namely comedy. She's done stand up, where shutting up loudmouthed, blow-hard idiots is among the first things you learn. Oh, and she's black and lesbian. The best thing he can do is shut up. Even commenting on how crass he thinks the jokes were would be pushing it, after all the terrible things he's said over his career.
Rush's ego is so humongous that I wonder if Sykes kept pushing his buttons and finding willing media outlets to broadcast her, that Rush would eventually snap and actually take the bait.
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According to exit polls, G.W. Bush got 48% of the female vote in 2004, while John McCain only got 43% in 2008.
Between the Reagan Democrats and "security moms", the GOP did have some female support to piss away on a crusade towards vitriol and ideological purity.
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He's smart enough to know the trouble he would be bringing on himself to get into a war of words with someone with absolutely nothing to lose by attacking him back without any sort of verbal restraint.
Spoilered for not being relevant to the actual thread.
Unfortunately, I agree that Obama (using him to stand in for the current administration en total) should not pursue prosecuting torture crimes against the Bush administration. Political expediency is the reason not to, and it is a very good reason. Look at the country now. If prosecution is brought against members of the previous administration for torture crimes, the government will shut down because _all_ attention is going to be focused on this. Outside of real emergencies, nothing is going to get done in government, and imagine the divisive friction it will cause across the country.
I predict that it's not going to be for a couple generations down the road, when it's really just an academic issue that's not going to generate a shoulder-deep shitstorm like it would now. All the responsible members of the Bush administration will be post-humously condemned for their criminal actions, and the leadership will offer an apology to the world.
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Perhaps they cant really make a big deal out of it without actually playing the clip, which brings up the whole oxycontin issue which I'm sure he'd rather not do.
Alternatively, there are just so many people and issues on his list to talk about and attack, that Wanda Sykes is kinda small fish. Its not like mustard or something.
It's partly because of the oxycontin thing and it's partly because deep down Rush is a dickless piece of shit. Starting shit with a comedian is one of the dumbest things you can do, because they can get away with saying truly outrageous things under the banner of comedy. He knows that, unlike a politician, she would be ready, willing and able to drag up all of his dirty little deeds and gleefully parade them before the public and there wouldn't be a damn thing he could do about it. So, like all insecure bullies, he sticks to the targets he knows can't or won't fight back.
He'd be sullying his god complex by getting in a tiff with an "entertainer"
but it's the only one I heard.
And the shooting/interrogating joke was pretty good, too. It was just really funny to see Obama drop a fairly racial joke. I don't know, I really like that he finds race something worthy of light humor.
She's gay?
Rush, vs gay black comedian.
It's far to much of a minefield and I'm sure he knows it. Would be entertaining though.
Fuck political expediency. It's not an excuse for not doing the right thing. Crimes must be prosecuted. Period.
I like the joke too, but I don't know if I'd call it racial. I don't think he was making fun of the stereotype, but was making fun of Steele for trying to appeal to that stereotype. Essentially, being fake. I think it could be easily misinterpreted, and Obama gets a wider birth because of his heritage. If someone who you already were suspicious about, like Bush, made a joke about a black man acting stereotypical the knee jerk reaction would be to think he was making fun of the stereotype.
If you don't enforce laws, what is the virtue of having them?
edit: also, I like how you put torture in quotation marks. No equivocation is possible here; the U.S. tortured people.
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Rush just needs "Pussy" tattooed onto his face. He blusters and glowers when any GOP peon doesn't kneel and kiss his ring, but a comedian (and not even a very great comedian at that; Wanda is OK but she's nowhere near as good as Dave Chapelle or even Bill Murray were in their heydeys) actually calls him a drug-addicted terrorist and he doesn't make a peep. Honestly, how pathetic can you get.
I hate Rush, but you can't say a person would be an idiot for getting mad at a comedian for making fun of him and then say he's pathetic for not defending himself against a comedian. When everything a person does is automatically wrong, no matter what it is, criticism against them loses any real credibility. If there's anything Rush needs, it's quality criticism.
He'd only be an idiot if he engaged Wanda Sykes on the battleground of her choosing, namely comedy. She's done stand up, where shutting up loudmouthed, blow-hard idiots is among the first things you learn. Oh, and she's black and lesbian. The best thing he can do is shut up. Even commenting on how crass he thinks the jokes were would be pushing it, after all the terrible things he's said over his career.
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However, what I meant - and perhaps it wasn't clear - was that it is unwise to go up against a comedian because they're essentially untouchable, and have been for centuries. The jester/fool could say things nobody else was allowed to. That doesn't mean, though, if he really thought he was the grand high poobah of everything ever - which, given his demonstratively massive opinion of himself, he apparently does, or at least likes to project that he does - that he should take blatant insults lying down.
He feels free to criticise anyone for even minor transgressions against his ego by politicians, who stand to damage their careers by getting involved in his bullshit one way or the other. You could very easily make the argument that he's been milking the GOP for public apologies for the last several months for no other reason than to feel big about himself. And yet when someone he can't attack says things about him which are highly inflammatory... he sits quietly and pretends it didn't happen. There's nothing you can call that but cowardice, and given his stage persona of a big-assed bad-ass who shits where he pleases and doesn't give a fuck, it's really disgusting to me.
I'm probably just venting; it irks me that such a loathsome human being is so revered in this country, and that his bullshit is visibly damaging efforts to get things moving again. I don't talk about this stuff IRL to other people (who wants to hear a three-paragraph rush vent IRL anyway), but it seems to be an acceptable thing to do in here.
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I wouldn't doubt the experts of mudslinging. If the phrase is coming back into style, AM radio hosts would definitely be in the know more than you or I.
Again, the GOP would be ten times better off if they stopped smearing liberals and started discussing the virtues of conservatism and how conservatism could make lives better. I'm going to take a stopwatch and listen to Hannity or Ingraham or Limbaugh and count the minutes they waste badmouthing the left.
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Massachusetts Liberal -> San Francisco Values -> Chicago Politics. Its pretty formulaic.
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Goddamn it, why'd you have to link that. Don't you know that every hit the site gets an angel gets sodomized by crystallized hypocrisy?
Rush's ego is so humongous that I wonder if Sykes kept pushing his buttons and finding willing media outlets to broadcast her, that Rush would eventually snap and actually take the bait.
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