Remember discussing at lunch at school that a ninja would kick a samurais ass, and your friends were all "nuh uh!" and you were all "uh huh!" That's pretty much this show, it's really interesting, and I'm not the only one to think so, what with about 1.7 million viewers since the 2nd episode.
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Deadliest Warrior is a television program on Spike in which historical warriors are pit against each other in simulated battles. Each episode showcases two warriors in a hypothetical battle to the death.
Each warrior is given weapons from the particular group they are associated. Modern fighters and experts on said weapons present the strengths, and weaknesses of each arsenal, including real tests of the weapons.[2] The data collected is then fed into a computer simulation based on an unreleased commercial game engine developed by Slitherine Strategies[3] to determine the average winner of one thousand battles. After the winner is determined, a mock battle takes place to showcase how each weapon is used in a real battle situation, and to determine which combatant is the deadliest warrior.
Geoff Desmoulin is the scientist and high speed camera operator. Dr. Armand Dorian is the medical consultant. Max Geiger is the simulations programmer. All three provide color commentary throughout the show, as well as technical details of each weapons test.
Each episode of the show begins with the introduction of the two warriors. The history and culture of each is discussed briefly. These segments are fleshed out with actors performing dramatized scenes from the daily life of the warriors. A team of "experts" is then introduced to showcase and test the chosen weapons for the battle.[4]
The weapons are presented in four categories: short range, mid range, long range, and special. Special weapons are usually the signature weapon of the warrior, for example, the Apache war club, or the Spartan shield.
The experts test the weapons on body parts (and sometimes entire torsos) constructed out of ballistics gel, as well as large amounts of stage blood, which adds to the theatrics of the testing. Sometimes the torsos are covered with armor that is representative of that worn by the weapon's opponent. Natural tissue, particularly pig carcasses, are also frequently used. All of the images are captured with high speed photography, and the results are fed into a computer which determines the damage the weapons are able to deal. The weapons with similar characteristics are paired against each other and the winner of each pairing is determined by a combination of the damage results from the tests and the judgements of the producers and hosts.
After the arsenal has been tested, the warriors fight a one on one hypothetical battle that demonstrates some possible scenarios and the eventual winner, which is performed by actors.
After the battle, the winner is revealed as the average victor of one thousand simulated battles. The number of times a particular weapon dealt the killing blow is also revealed as well as the opinion of the producers as to why the stated warrior won.
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So let's discuss, who you'll think will win and future episodes, maybe who you'd like to see go at it.
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Nope this is a different show.
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That one does seem stupid, yeah. They should do more older cultures and I'm sure they will.
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I don't believe so... that thread was about Warriors on History Channel. It drifted off into Deadliest Warrior, but that wasn't the topic. :P
And they don't even consider things like armor limiting movement, or helmets limiting hearing and sight. It's just all 'wow, you really mangled our ballistic dummy/pig carcass! you win!'
Not to mention the fucking fanboys representing each side. I wanted to stab all the people in the spartan/ninja episode. The spartan guys were like dumb, annoying jocks and the ninja guys were like dumb, annoying otaku.
"Pssssssh we're the badassest manliest of manly men Spartans we'd just shrug off all your puny ninja blows with our shield made of pure testosterone and epic."
"Oh yeah well we're ninja and we'd just kill you in your sleep with stabby-sleep-no-jutsu and you'd never see it coming so THERE!!"
Do... Re... Mi... So... Fa.... Do... Re.... Do...
Forget it...
This is actually a very accurate description of how that episode went.
And that ninja side statement is almost a direct quote.
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1: Assuming that the ninja decided to attack the Spartan in broad daylight, he sure as hell wouldn't have worn a black night fighting gi, and would have most likely murdered him with a blow gun dart to the back from a decent distance in the shadows while posing as a beggar or peasant.
2: The program never took into account how the black egg fucking blinded the spartan. I don't care if your innundated to pain by a childhood spent with a dozen electric eels stuffed in your ass hourly, ground glass in the eye will blind you and then you won't be able to fight period.
3: Seriously? The shield is the most lethal weapon? a Bronze convex disk the size of an 18 wheeler's wheel that can't be brought to bear with any sort of swiftness or swung in any manner that doesn't leave the wielder hideously open beats out every weapon in the ninja's arsenal?
It's like a show trying to see which car is the best.
By racing them on a straight track.
It's a measure of pure horsepower on a devised arena. All they measure is destructive power, range, and speed. Of the weapons only, by a total kill count. Even defensive weapons are measured by their killing power, and many a warrior has been screwed by non-lethal support items like the viking shield and ninja eggs.
Eh, I think you are mistaken about some of the details of the Spartan. They wore plate armor that covered their back...so the dart won't work. Plus the shield is bronze over wood, so it's not like they were trying to toss around a solid block of metal.
You still have a good point about the black egg though.
You could really see how well the combination of shield+greaves+helmet worked.
Most of it is a bit silly though. I would rather see more of an apple vs apple approach.
Knight vs Samurai
Spartan vs Praetorian
Redcoat vs Pirate
Ninja vs Shaolin
I'd like to see the Aztecs and Mongols and Huns, maybe the Mamluks, Amazons and Barbarians.
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Edit: Dunno about apples and apples, if it's post-contact, the Maori warrior might have a musket.
It wouldnt be so annoying if you could just concentrate on the historical aspects of the show, but the caliber of some of the "specialists" is just beyond lame. For the ninja segment they invited two retarded larpers... o_O
It hasn't aired yet, it was pretty apples and apples tonight though, Spetsnaz and Green Beret.
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Fair enough.
I think I might be doing this wrong.
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For me the "versus" part is just a silly distraction from the meat of the show: displaying all the weaponry and techniques of various cultures.
I mean really when samurais fought did they place weapons strategically along a retreat pattern so they could use one useless weapon after another while running from an enemy until finally they got a weapon that worked?
I forgot the outcome of the Apache Warrior versus Gladiator, but I remember the episode being full of horseshit too. Might have just turned it off rather than see who won.
What's retarded is that their system can't differentiate between sniper rifles and assault rifles and they couldn't even fit in light machine guns. So even within its narrow focus, it's terrible.
Almost none of that list makes any sense. Soldier vs a Pirate? Umm... yeah, we already know how that fight goes, it's called history!
Honestly, match-up shows like this are just really dumb. I means seriously, wtf is a knight? WTF is a samurai? Both of those are extraordinarily general terms that cover of variety of different warriors from about a thousand years of history.
The real problem is that generally speaking, when going into combat, you wear armor with the most likelihood of protecting you from what your opponent's got, and carry weapons with the greatest likelihood of defeating your opponent's armor. Tactics, armament, and fighting style are going to be largely dictated by the setting and the time period, so grabbing two guys who are vastly seperate from each other for each is going to make for some very odd mismatches.
Now the part where they actually talk about technical details of the arms and armor, that's neat.
Four words: back flipping hatchet attack.
Still got the fanboy bullshit, especially among the Yakuza guys.
C'mon Spike, I know you wanna.
Crazy stuff like that is a sign of boredom and stagnation in the ranks.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
I mean, it's a totally sweet move no doubt, it just is indicative of some problems with the people managing them.
Nah it would just end up with Wolverine VS Hulk fighting for an eternity, endlessly regenerating attacks.
This entirely depends on if Hulk has a limit on how powerful he can get, so if there is a limit on how angry he gets (he get's more powerful the angrier he gets if I'm not mistaken) then it would be an endless battle. However, if hulk has a limitless rage buildup, then isn't it possible that is strength would become so immense that he could either rip wolverines head off and throw it at the sun... or like explode him with a punch?
I think absurd random fights are better then predictable ones. Also, they didn't do an episode with Pirates vs. Ninjas? Thats just so wrong! Or... did they realise that one show cannot contain the fanboyism that would erupt from that, nor could spike withstand the massive backlash from whichever side lost?
No, we know. You've said this before.
You don't need to keep qualifying that picture as if people are honestly judging other special forces lacking because of it.
Ultimate Hulk fights Ultimate Wolverine.
UH tears UW in half, but UW just drags himself back to his lower torso.